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Torq  19 | 1761
5 Jul 2025   #241
It's only Poland that seems determined to be Catholicism Saudi Arabia.

It is a deeply unfair thing to say.

In Poland freedom of religion is protected by law. People can practice any religion they want, including Islam, or they can be secular. Conversion from any religion to any other is legally permitted, and followers of all religions enjoy the same rights and can hold public offices. None of these things can be said of Saudi Arabia where there is no freedom of religion, apostasy from Islam is punished by death and you have sharia legal system enforced by religious police. It is ridiculous to compare Poland and Saudi Arabia in religious terms.

We like our dark ages, thank you

Well said.

Pope Benedict XVI (my personal favourite of the four Popes I've observed during my lifetime) said that the spiritual crisis widespread in the West is the most serious one since the fall of the Roman Empire. If what happens in the West with abortion, euthanasia, gay "marriage", open display of all sorts of sexual deviation etc. is called light, then indeed we prefer to remain in the darkness.
Novichok  7 | 10245
5 Jul 2025   #242
If what happens in the West with abortion, euthanasia, gay "marriage", open display of all sorts of sexual deviation etc. is called light, then indeed we prefer to remain in the darkness.

Hey, jon, please comment on the above...I always value your opinions...
Bobko  28 | 2768
5 Jul 2025   #243
It is a deeply unfair thing to say.

If Poland is not Saudi Arabia of Catholicism - then who is?

Candidates:

1) Mexico

2) Philippines

I think Philippines deserves it more - since it's a Catholic country where divorce is still illegal (except for Muslims).
Torq  19 | 1761
5 Jul 2025   #244
@Novi @Bobko

Please read Marcel De Corte's L'homme contre lui-même and L'intelligence en péril de mort. You are both intelligent and very cultured people, so I don't expect you to read them in French (unless you happen to enjoy that sort of thing)--any translation will do. When you finish you can also flip through Chateaubriand's Génie du christianisme.

When you do that you will understand that Europe (and her bastard children of USA, Canada and Australia) and Russia have to return/convert to Roman Catholicism if they are to avoid eventual moral and civilizational decline (which is already happening). You will also understand that comparing Saudi Arabia to any Catholic country is nonsensical.
Bobko  28 | 2768
5 Jul 2025   #245
Russia have to return/convert to Roman Catholicism if they are to avoid eventual moral and civilizational decline

Ok... that's an interesting hook!

Enough for me to read it.
Torq  19 | 1761
5 Jul 2025   #246
Enough for me to read it.

Brilliant.

Imagine how different the world would be if Russia had converted to the One True Religion back in 1612 and joined her forces with Poland - all the earth would bend the knee to our command!
Bobko  28 | 2768
5 Jul 2025   #247
@Torq

I don't know man... still hard to see you as anything but schismatics - but I will still read the book.
Torq  19 | 1761
5 Jul 2025   #248
hard to see you as anything but schismatics

Well, proper consecration of Russia to Immaculate Heart of Mary was done very recently, in March 2022 by Pope Francis (earlier consecrations weren't specific enough), so naturally it will take some time before your eyesight improves, but the mills of God have already started grinding and all that.

Приятного чтения!
Bobko  28 | 2768
5 Jul 2025   #249
proper consecration of Russia to Immaculate Heart of Mary was done very recently

and we discussed it here.

Completely inappropriate. For such things permission is asked - and if not granted - it is not done.
Torq  19 | 1761
6 Jul 2025   #250
For such things permission is asked - and if not granted - it is not done.

Don't be so ridiculous. Pope is the Vicar of Christ on earth. He doesn't need anybody's permission to consecrate things.
Alien  28 | 7227
6 Jul 2025   #251
we prefer to remain in the darkness.

I prefer daylight... 🤔
Tlum  12 | 374
25 Jul 2025   #252
The forbidden fruit from the Bible is not an actual fruit, such as an apple or a fig, but it symbolizes sex. Adam and Eve were not supposed to have sex in paradise.
Novichok  7 | 10245
26 Jul 2025   #253
Islam is pure evil...


Lyzko  45 | 10043
26 Jul 2025   #254
Let's separate Sunni from Shiite Islam.
Novichok  7 | 10245
26 Jul 2025   #255
I am ready to separate Sunni from Shiite Muslims just as I am ready to separate MS-13 from Latin Kings.

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