God and Religion Talk

It is a deeply unfair thing to say.

In Poland freedom of religion is protected by law. People can practice any religion they want, including Islam, or they can be secular. Conversion from any religion to any other is legally permitted, and followers of all religions enjoy the same rights and can hold public offices. None of these things can be said of Saudi Arabia where there is no freedom of religion, apostasy from Islam is punished by death and you have sharia legal system enforced by religious police. It is ridiculous to compare Poland and Saudi Arabia in religious terms.


Well said.

Pope Benedict XVI (my personal favourite of the four Popes I've observed during my lifetime) said that the spiritual crisis widespread in the West is the most serious one since the fall of the Roman Empire. If what happens in the West with abortion, euthanasia, gay "marriage", open display of all sorts of sexual deviation etc. is called light, then indeed we prefer to remain in the darkness.

Hey, jon, please comment on the above...I always value your opinions...

If Poland is not Saudi Arabia of Catholicism - then who is?

Candidates:

1) Mexico

2) Philippines

I think Philippines deserves it more - since it's a Catholic country where divorce is still illegal (except for Muslims).

@Novi @Bobko

Please read Marcel De Corte's L'homme contre lui-même and L'intelligence en péril de mort. You are both intelligent and very cultured people, so I don't expect you to read them in French (unless you happen to enjoy that sort of thing)--any translation will do. When you finish you can also flip through Chateaubriand's Génie du christianisme.

When you do that you will understand that Europe (and her bastard children of USA, Canada and Australia) and Russia have to return/convert to Roman Catholicism if they are to avoid eventual moral and civilizational decline (which is already happening). You will also understand that comparing Saudi Arabia to any Catholic country is nonsensical.

Ok... that's an interesting hook!

Enough for me to read it.

Brilliant.

Imagine how different the world would be if Russia had converted to the One True Religion back in 1612 and joined her forces with Poland - all the earth would bend the knee to our command!

@Torq

I don't know man... still hard to see you as anything but schismatics - but I will still read the book.

Well, proper consecration of Russia to Immaculate Heart of Mary was done very recently, in March 2022 by Pope Francis (earlier consecrations weren't specific enough), so naturally it will take some time before your eyesight improves, but the mills of God have already started grinding and all that.

Приятного чтения!

and we discussed it here.

Completely inappropriate. For such things permission is asked - and if not granted - it is not done.

Don't be so ridiculous. Pope is the Vicar of Christ on earth. He doesn't need anybody's permission to consecrate things.

I prefer daylight... 🤔

Islam is pure evil...

Let's separate Sunni from Shiite Islam.

I am ready to separate Sunni from Shiite Muslims just as I am ready to separate MS-13 from Latin Kings.

There's nothing more pitiful than a hypocrite professing love for children, both born and unborn. Human love, without God, is like stinky rotten garbage. True love can only be experienced through a connection with Jesus.

You may love children, but another carcass hates them and wants to kill or rape them. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing. You live in a jungle. Shout all you want, shoot or you want. It's all pointless.

I love children except those who chant "Death to America" on the odd days and "Death to Israel" on the even days...

Also, those who claim that men can get pregnant and women with penises are women.

Couldn't they chant "Death to America and Israel" every day?

Catholic priest convinced altar boy God approved of sexual abuse before violating him in confession booth, lawsuit claims

This proves beyond any doubt that there is no God and that Catholic priests know it. A true believer would be scared out of his priestly mind to even think about harming a child.

But they know that all that BS about God and Hell is just a lie to control the gullible and shake money out of them...

1. You claim that "religion controls people."
2. You then cite news about a priest who could not control himself and committed sexual abuse.

Conclusion: Your initial point is baseless nonsense.

BS. He controlled himself very well since what he did was with premeditation. This required planning where, when, and who. While this was going on, God did nothing...

Even a homeless bum would have enough sympathy for the kid and preventively beat the fvck out of that priest.

The priest did all of the above because he knew that there was no such thing as God or Hell.

He was afraid only of going to the very earthly prison where prisoners often convert time to the death penalty.

I love this form of social justice. Don't you?

I guess you don't understand what you've actually claimed. Again, how does religion "control people"?

One more time...

If priests believed in God, they would never touch kids sexually.

If God existed, he would rip the sex offender's balls and dick instead just passively looking down.

Do you now know what I said?

Correct, as it would be a violation of God's commandment.


If what you say is true, it would have happened in paradise before Adam and Eve sinned. God gave us free will to do as we please. Our rebellion against God led to the emergence of people like sexual molesters, who will face judgment upon their death.

You should think twice before judging others because, if your wish came true, you probably wouldn't be walking on this earth anymore; neither would I.

...and, thus, made himself irrelevant...

We'll all find out about it upon our death. Take your chance if you dare.

God should give free will only to those who can reason and be morally and financially responsible for their actions.

That's why to drive, you must have liability insurance.

Giving free will to a child in the kitchen with sharp knives and boiling water is criminal. Parents like this are charged and sentenced for being reckless.

BTW, what are God's daily duties? Kings have them. Popes have them. Is God doing nothing since the day the Universe was created?

It would equal to creating robots. God doesn't want robots. Love or hate must be free and only free will can guarantee that. Would you like your granddaughters to express love for you only within an hour of you giving them a $100 bill?


It's the parents' job to make sure their children are not left alone in the kitchen full of knives or boiling water.


God gave Adam and Eve paradise - a worry free eternal life filled with joy and love. However, they chose to exchange it for an earthly life marked by sin and misery. Because God loves them, He respected their choice and distanced Himself from them. Yet, He did not abandon them; He sent Jesus to atone for humanity's rebellion and sins. God has fulfilled His role and "job" while granting people the freedom to make their own choice.

If you tell your wife you no longer want anything to do with her and leave, what would you expect from her? That she would continue to care for or help you? That's not how relationships work. But she would most likely attend your funeral.

So God is overruled by the parents who hate that free will given to kds ... plus matches...


Democrats give addicts paradise, too - monthly income and drugs - and we get San Francisco and LA...

BTW, who was supposed to provide shelter, food, and medical care to A & E?

Did you know that unemployed people like Adam and Eve eventually go nuts and overdose on drugs?

If I had to be Adam and live a life filled with just joy and love, I would shoot myself.

Sadly there are materialistic societies where this is largely the case.