God and Religion Talk

To extend her love for us, we just gave our 18-year-old gd $2000 before she left for Penn State...

@Tlum

You're a smart guy.

@Novi

Get a grip FFS

Can you be more specific about that "grip" or are you just out of arguments?

I often pray when I am taking crap in my bathroom. Is my bathroom a place of worship?

In the US, every hospital has a place to pray, but nobody calls it a church.

So let's define "church"

Church: a building capable of acommodating 200 or more people, owned and operated by a tax exempt Catholic organization for the sole purpose of serving the believers and where an ordained priest performs religious functions.

Now how many churches are there in Leeds?

Despite your age, I and others have to school you over and over again:


Your attacking "Catholic" (only about 5% of tax-except Christian organizations in the US) clearly shows you are full of sh*t (pun intended). You use words you cannot understand, like "prayer." Better luck next time.

Hey, stupid, my posts were about Leeds, not he US.

All churches in the US are tax exempt as long as they behave. That includes no politics.

If you and your friends have a beer, play poker, and pray, you are not tax exempt and you are not a church.

Prayer: talking to God silently or mumbling.

Good enough?

The official definition:

Prayer is an invocation or act that seeks to activate a rapport with an object of worship through deliberate communication.

Too complicated for me...

Dear God, make mommy healthy again.

That's a prayer a four-year-old kid understands and can define.

So people go to church to sit in silence... Maybe it's time to visit your local church to verify that.

This reader's comment in Daily Mail is worth posting in its entirety...hopefully without objection...

In the Bible, God is a strong and ever-present actor in the world of human affairs.

He talks audibly, he inscribes on stone, he firebombs villages, he sends his angels around, he turns people to stone, he stops the sun, he makes a new star, he creates new languages, he sends scourges and plagues, he kills people, he sends his son and gets him killed - all of this up to around 100 AD.

Then something happens- or more accurately, nothing happens- God exits the stage, he goes completely silent, does nothing whatsoever.

To any person possessing a logical mind, this is a red herring. Why would an interventionist god suddenly become impotent? And remain so for 19 highly momentous centuries?

The effort needed to answer these questions is like trying to pick an apple hanging 5 feet off the ground - the god described in the Bible is fictional.

As a father of two and a grandpa of four, the most compelling evidence that the last 8 words of the above are true is God's total and complete indifference when a little girl is being raped while her mother is watching and patiently waiting to be paid by the rapist. No, I am not making this up.

My God would evaporate the "mother" and the would-be rapist before he would get within a mile of the girl.

To add insult to the injury, popes have always been against the death penalty that their God was quick to deliver, often indiscriminately ... up to 100 AD.

From then on, God didn't give a fvck...no matter what the case....

You mean the old testament?

That's actually a plus...One gullible idiot less...I mean fewer...

Where I am beginning to be a danger to society is when I read about some azzhole believer who killed his or her kids because the moron was convinced that they, the kids, would be better off with "Jesus".

Memo to believers: Believe all you want. Fvck off of your kids and the remaining 7 billion people.

You want to be with Jesus? Cool...There is a bridge a couple of miles down the road...


Both are full of lies for the gullible to accept and follow.

*galactic eyeroll*

Yeah, yeah, yeah... all that, true or imagined, common righteousness, humane decency and bravery will do you a whole lot of good, guys, when you die and all of a sudden you notice a well-hung demon approaching your anus with obvious intention and a smug smile on his face.

Repent and believe the Gospel for kingdom of God is at hand!

And with that brilliant piece of advice, gentlemen, I bid you good night.

If a believer admits that he heard God say to him "Kill that scumbag sinner Novi"...can I kill him first and still go to Heaven?

They demanded his crucifixion, they were ultimately responsible, Pontius Pilate was just their unwitting shabbos goy. To falsely deny responsibility for an act of violence is to deny the act itself!.

biblehub.com/niv/matthew/27.htm

22 "What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?" Pilate asked.

They all answered, "Crucify him!"

23 "Why? What crime has he committed?" asked Pilate.

But they shouted all the louder, "Crucify him!"

24 When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. "I am innocent of this man's blood," he said. "It is your responsibility!"

25 All the people answered, "His blood is on us and on our children!"

What part of "his blood is on us and on our children" do you have troubles understanding?

No one's denying. Pontius Pilate had Jesus executed, end of story.

He was just executing the law, no serious theologian has ever condemned the executioners.
Jews awaited the Messiah that will bring salvation only to them. Jesus promised salvation to anyone who will accept him as a savior. This is the core issue - Jews will rather deny salvation to entire humanity that share it with it.

Also what about Gospel of John?

7:1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

Forgetting are we that Jesus was a Jew as well🤣

That's a damn lie. He was a Pole from Częstochowa (His mother's home town).

Jesus was a preacher, just like MLK.

Just like MLK, had a mother and a father...

Anything else?

A Jewish mother named Mary - nothing else need be said.

Wrong.

Mary had sex with Joseph. Nine month later, out comes Jesus...all according to God's great plan we have been following from the very beginning...2 genders...a man and a woman...not "Mary has two mommies"...

Makin' it all up as ya go along, is that your m.o.?

Anything not true in my post?

At least I know how to spell "God" ... G o d...

You don't.

Haven't you read about the Immaculate Conception?

Yes. And His enemies (Pharisees and Sadducees) were Edomites. As are the yidsraelis today. A synagogue of the devil.

No jury had him executed, i.e, other Jews.
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Indeed, a Jew who irked other Jews so much that they wanted Him dead.
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Novi is so old that he was Peeping Tom in biblical times.

If you want to stay alive, never mess with Jews and their banks. See JFK...

Or take the ultimate turncoat, Bernie Madoff, who served 12 years of a 150-year sentence before dying in prison

What idiotic sentences...isn't life imprisonment enough?

In the US, each count adds to the total. If you commit 10 felonies, each punishable by 20, the total is 200.

You'll only start thinking about God when you're sick beyond all hope.

When death stares you in the face and you sense the grip of satan, you'll scream for mercy and maybe try to change.

But God's mercy isn't automatic. The sin against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven, and yours may already have crossed that line. When you finally stand before God, you'll see the truth so clearly that you'll want to condemn yourself for what you've done.