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pawian 224 | 24,484
4 Jun 2022 #151
Are you gay?

Nope. But as a true Christian, I support gays coz they are God`s children too. I hope you don`t mind.
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
5 Jun 2022 #152
God gave gays a choice too.
He said that it is o.k. to be gay but also stay celibate from the same sex or you will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
pawian 224 | 24,484
5 Jun 2022 #153
you will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.

You must have been talking to a wrong god. Or a false one. The one I have contact with said it is enough to believe and you go to Heaven. Simple.
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
5 Jun 2022 #154
Oh, my God said that also only with stipulations.
If I believed and then went out and committed a sin of blasphemy or a homosexual act He says that you will not inherit the Kingdom.

Don't be a wolf in sheep's cloths, Pawian, for it is written very clearly.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,263
6 Jun 2022 #155
Don't be a wolf in sheep's cloths, Pawian, for it is written very clearly.

In the eyes of God, is kissing another man on the lips considered a homosexual act that closes the gates to the Kingdom?
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
6 Jun 2022 #156
Don't be a wolf in sheep's cloths,

In the eyes of God, is kissing another man on the lips considered a homosexual act that closes the gates to the Kingdom?

Only if he slips him his tongue. ("sarcasm")
In the eyes of God does drinking a glass of wine make a guy a drunkard ?
Drunkards don't inherit the Kingdom either as it is written.
For the umteenth time, you good old Catholic boys need to pick up the Good Book and read it for yourselves.
Start with 1 Corinthians 6 - 9:10 which I have posted several times here now for you.
Don't argue with me, go argue with God's inspired word and see how far you get.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,263
6 Jun 2022 #157
So in the eyes of God: is it love or is it gender that matters more?

In other words, is gender before love or is love before the gender?
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
6 Jun 2022 #158
That is a good question Z.
You should pray about your dilemma and see what He tells you.
pawian 224 | 24,484
6 Jun 2022 #159
He says that you will not inherit the Kingdom.

Where exactly?
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
7 Jun 2022 #160
Start with 1 Corinthians 6 - 9:10 which I have posted several times here now for you.

Did I stutter or are you tone deaf ?
And we already know you will say those words were not spoken by God.
Those words are God's inspired words to His Apostles.
We've been through this six times now.
pawian 224 | 24,484
7 Jun 2022 #161
God's inspired words to His Apostles.

Actually, the guy who you quote wasn`t one of the apostles. He didn`t even meet Jesus in person. :):) That is why your suggestion that his words bear any importance is failed. Anybody can say anything. . Show us actual Jesus` words about the matter.
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
7 Jun 2022 #162
That is why your suggestion that his words bear any importance

Actually those are the words straight from the Holy Bible and not mine at all.
So in essence, you are arguing with the Holy Bible and not me.
Don't you believe what the Bible teaches Pawian ?
pawian 224 | 24,484
7 Jun 2022 #163
the Holy Bible

Whose main part is Gospels. The rest is commentary and interpretations. Once we discussed another issue and you asked me to quote Jesus directly. Now it is my turn - quote Jesus, not commentators on him. Simple, isn`t it? Jesus, please. :):)

It seems you pick from the Bible what suits you and reject what you don`t like. Amasing. :):):)
Lyzko 45 | 9,442
7 Jun 2022 #164
Noticed my name's conspicuously absent from the list.
Guess I'm too much of a gadfly, not to mention general pain in the butt LOL
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
7 Jun 2022 #166
Once we discussed another issue and you asked me to quote Jesus directly.

Excuse me, it was YOU who ask me, just like this time AGAIN, to quote Jesus directly so please stop.

The rest is commentary and interpretations.

The rest of it is.....for the umpteenth is God's inspired words !
Jesus taught the Apostles, the Apostles taught the people from Jesus's teachings.

Simple, isn`t it?

Apparently not as you refuse to digest this.
pawian 224 | 24,484
7 Jun 2022 #167
God's inspired words

God`s inspired words were too often abused by people and provoked religious wars, the burning of Giordano Bruno and thousands of females at stakes, rejection of Copernicus theory, the rule of two popes at the same time, genocide of native children in Canada, killings of children in Christian facilities in Ireland etc etc etc.

Thank you very much.

All we need is Jesus.

Jesus taught the Apostles,

I already told you - the guy you quoted wasn`t an apostle and never met Jesus in person. That is why his remarks are just his own and free interpretation. Anybody can say anything. Simple. Give us Jesus, for Christ`s sake!!!

Excuse me, it was YOU who ask me

There was one case in which you asked me. :)
jon357 74 | 22,060
7 Jun 2022 #168
inspired words

And and of course it begs the question who decides that tnose words are inspired and how do they reach that decision.
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
8 Jun 2022 #169
God`s inspired words were too often abused by people

And still are.
Nobody is claiming that there is a perfect church because there are none.

I already told you - the guy you quoted wasn`t an apostle and never met Jesus in person.

No, I already told you....Jesus said to his disciples, "Come, I will make you fishers of men."
And those men, the Apostles that Jesus taught went out and taught other me and they taught other men God's inspired word.
You are very well aware of that P and just want to argue

Give us Jesus, for Christ`s sake!!!

Is that the same Christ that died on the cross for your sins ?
Homo perversion is a sin and you know it.
And us old Anglo White men stand right in the way of you Liberals to let you instill such ilk with your propaganda and denial.
pawian 224 | 24,484
8 Jun 2022 #170
And those men, the Apostles that Jesus taught went out

Yes, 12 of them. Paul wasn`t one of them. Simple.

is a sin

:):) Cast the first stone if you are without a sin. hahahaha

old Anglo White men stand right in the way

Your standing in the USA proved worthless. How many states recognise gay marriages? :):):)
Lyzko 45 | 9,442
8 Jun 2022 #171
Thank you, Russian Anti-Putin!
From your words to the mods' ears:-)
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
8 Jun 2022 #172
Yes, 12 of them. Paul wasn`t one of them. Simple.

Nope however Paul dud study for three years with Jesus.
Concerning these three years, "Paul gave himself to study, prayer, and meditation, and met with the Lord alone.
Many believe that this was Paul's three years with the Lord, even as the other apostles had spent three with Christ while He was here on earth.

Actually, the guy who you quote wasn`t one of the apostles. He didn`t even meet Jesus in person. :):

Have you ever read the Bible, Pawian ?
You seem a tad mixed up sometimes with your remarks like this.
jon357 74 | 22,060
8 Jun 2022 #173
Paul dud study for three years with Jesus.

Where is that in the bible?
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
8 Jun 2022 #174
Do your own homework, Pagan.
(Hint: look in the book of Acts)
And if that doesn't work for you, Google it !
jon357 74 | 22,060
8 Jun 2022 #175
The acts of the apostles?

Which chapter and verse are you pretending says that?

Are you confusing Jesus with Gamaliel?
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
8 Jun 2022 #176
No, joun, the book of Acts.....right after the book of John and right before the book of Romans.
Now run along and do your homework.
pawian 224 | 24,484
8 Jun 2022 #177
Paul dud study for three years with Jesus.

Of course not. Stop writing the new version of the Bible. :):):)

Have you ever

I know the Bible enough to know you are mistaken about Paul. :):)

In result, Paul remains a commentator and interpreter while we need true words of Jesus aboiut the subject matter. So far you are unable to provide such words.

And you point to other people`s sins. Let me remind you then these holy words:
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

:):)
jon357 74 | 22,060
8 Jun 2022 #178
Yes, the acts of the apostles. Chapter 9 refers to St Paul's conversion experience and blinding on the way to Ananias' house and as I recall, Chapter 22 gives some of St Paul's backstory

The events described in Chapter 9 occur long after Jesus' crucifixion and alleged resurrection and ascension

So which chapter and verse are you pretending says:

Paul dud study for three years with Jesus.

johnny reb 48 | 7,144
8 Jun 2022 #179
So which chapter and verse are you pretending says:

So keep studying, you're doing good so far.
You're almost there. ;-)
pawian 224 | 24,484
8 Jun 2022 #180
So keep studying

He doesn`t need to coz you are wrong about Paul. Simple. The case is closed. :):):)

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