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Remember BB, the technology that civilians encounter is usually several steps behind what certain countries' military have. Do you trust China?

Especially in light of their large scale data harvesting.

Never! But I can't think of China being the lone user of AI.....we will very probably re-enter something like a new Cold War, which would of course include a new competition, militarily and scientific....a new great time for all our bright heads!

And I truly don't think about data harvesting when I think about the possibilities of AI...

They aren't by any means. They are how ever by far the most dangerous and probably the most advanced.

If you've a spare hour or so, read up on cliodynamics.


It's pretty well what it's all about right now. Not cartoons or poems but data (even the most seemingly banal data) and what AI and supercomputers can do with it.

Probably because they have less fears and morals....not much asking around "if we should" and "what could happen".....they just do!

That's why I think we need a new Cold War to follow and don't be left behind to far....

PS: I had to google "cliodynamics", and I couldn't help thinking its also about the logics of human developed social systems, and that is interesting for everyone interested in the pro an cons, the ups and downs of capitalist and alternativ social systems....why one works and the other not, despite all the glorious promises! To avoid to repeat all the historic failures....I could be wrong of course!

Yes, and they have long term plans.

Your country and mine try to plan a bit for the future but aren't that good at it. America tries to plan a bit further but despite throwing money at projects are very bad at it. China plan 200 years in the future.


You're an optimist. China. And to a lesser extent r*SSia (who after all invented it) would love nothing more than repeating those mistakes. They're in it for the long game.

Well....they have their BIG BANG before themselves yet still....I doubt they can go on with that capitalist-communist societal mix-model topped with a big smack of asian obedience culture forever. That will crash sooner or later, continous living in fear with the feeling of powerlessness has its limits....they are human too!

But I agree....that can still take awhile....a rather long while...

They know that already BB. And prepare for it.

...oh....did you mean that with the AI data harvesting?

Both. The data stuff is just a tool to use with supercomputers.

I'd guess that the first we really hear about it is when they start to make a killling on financial markets. Then steal a march on scientific and technical research.

By then it will be too late to stop if it isn't already.

Oi man, I hope our "best and brightest" know that too and prepare accordingly.....

Me too, however my experience of diplomats, politicians and others on one side and Chinese businesspeople and others on the other side doesn't inspire me with optimism