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Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw


OP jon357 66 | 16,977
28 Oct 2020 #481
the primary aim has been to get rid of corrupt murderous regimes.

I wonder what will follow this one.
pawian 176 | 14,299
28 Oct 2020 #482
I wonder if you are at least sometimes able to see things in proportion

Not murderous? And who is provoking people to go out and demonstrate in pandemic times???? Me or Holy Spirit???
pawian 176 | 14,299
28 Oct 2020 #483
The main symbol of the female protest is the lightning. In the past it was also a symbol of Assault Groups of underground Home Army which fought against Nazis, also as Warsaw Rising units. Excellent idea, brilliant connection. Well done!

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gumishu 11 | 5,603
28 Oct 2020 #484
provoking people

are those peoples machines with no brain to them or what - if they cared about their parents and grandparents they wouldn't attend mass demonstrations
OP jon357 66 | 16,977
28 Oct 2020 #485
if they cared

They care about the future.
pawian 176 | 14,299
28 Oct 2020 #486
parents and grandparents they wouldn't attend mass demonstrations

Yes, rightards thought they were smart, the inhumane ruling came out in the peak of pandemic, they had expected people to stay at home. As you can see, it didn`t work and it is only PiS to blame, nobody else.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
28 Oct 2020 #487
So is it dangerous to be in a crowd or not ? Because I am confused about that.

I want free choice and PIS out but I also want my kids back at school and my business open and to be able to fly again
gumishu 11 | 5,603
28 Oct 2020 #488
They care about the future.

let's assume someone who attended a demonstration caught the virus and then spread it to their parents or grandparents - who is to blame if the said elders die - PiS?
OP jon357 66 | 16,977
28 Oct 2020 #489
let's assume someone who attended a demonstration

Or that one of the righturds caught it, or a churchgoer, or an anti-mask protestor.

who is to blame if the said elders die - PiS

Yes. Very much so. Their actions and ideology have directly caused the present situation.
pawian 176 | 14,299
28 Oct 2020 #490
I want free choice and PIS out but I also want my kids back at school and business open and able to fly again

First of all, you shouldn`t panick or go hysterical. These are the worst reactions right now.

who is to blame if the said elders die - PiS?

Why are you asking stupid questions? Of course it is PiS` fault.

Their actions and ideology have directly caused the present situation.

Yes, but rightards have always remained in splendind mental isolation and self-denial - we can`t expect any sensible conclusions from them.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
28 Oct 2020 #491
I'm not panicking or hysterical - I'm confused.
gumishu 11 | 5,603
28 Oct 2020 #492
Their actions and ideology have directly caused the present situation.

you use a strange kind of logic that is very different from mine
pawian 176 | 14,299
28 Oct 2020 #493
I'm confused.

Quite correct - this is Poland. hahaha
Lenka 3 | 2,558
28 Oct 2020 #494
strange kind of logic

What is strange about it?
Either PiS did it now because they hoped ppl won't protest or they did it to distract ppl from Covid. Either way it's on them.

Protesting half a year or a year would be pointless
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
28 Oct 2020 #495
Is it ok to go to the cemetery ?
mafketis 24 | 9,361
28 Oct 2020 #496
a symbol of Assault Groups of underground Home Army which fought against Nazis

Which shows how stupid Terlikowski is (he compared it to the SS symbol)
OP jon357 66 | 16,977
28 Oct 2020 #497
a strange kind of logic

Not so strange.
a. Cause and Effect.
b. Not blaming victims for lashing out.

he compared it to the SS symbol

Part of the righturd playback.
gumishu 11 | 5,603
28 Oct 2020 #498
What is strange about it?

either the protestors are machines which react with B to a stimulus A - or they are thinking reasoning people who chose to endanger their families and beyond - what's so strange with my logic?
Lenka 3 | 2,558
28 Oct 2020 #499
thinking reasoning people who chose to endanger their families

So they should accept anything government does? Seriously? If it was banning Catolicism would you sit nicely and quietly at home?

If people can go to churches and could attend political meetings they can definitely protest in an open air.
gumishu 11 | 5,603
28 Oct 2020 #500
If it was banning Catolicism

I'm not a Catholic if that matters

Constitutional Tribunal ruling will not cause anyone to die (unless some idiot protesters start to stab or shoot around) - there is no censorship introduced - there are no opposition media outlets closed - and we have a galloping pandemia in the country
Lenka 3 | 2,558
28 Oct 2020 #501
there is no censorship introduced - there are no opposition media outlets closed

Yes, but we have the fate of many families at stake. Not for a year or two but for many years to come.

What ppl should do in your opinion? Do you think protests in a year time would make any sense? And how many women would be affected in that time?
gumishu 11 | 5,603
28 Oct 2020 #502
Do you think protests in a year time would make any sense?

that would be a reasonable and responsible thing to do

And how many women would be affected in that time?

people are not forced to keep the children they have - they can give them away - do you see a problem with that?
mafketis 24 | 9,361
28 Oct 2020 #503
people are not forced to keep the children they have - they can give them away

That's not what this is about primarily, it's the new legal requirement for women to carry fetuses to term that have no chance of surviving so that they can live a few minutes or hours in pain

Nobody liked the old compromise but people had learned to live with it, that is all but a few religious fanatics (who want to baptise dying babies - like ghouls).
pawian 176 | 14,299
28 Oct 2020 #504
that would be a reasonable and responsible thing to do

hahaha Like those old rightards in PiS, you know nothing about the new revolutionary generation of young people. You must be mad if you think they will wait 1 year.
gumishu 11 | 5,603
28 Oct 2020 #505
That's not what this is about primarily, it's the new legal requirement for women to carry fetuses to term that have no chance of surviving

over 40 per cent of legal abortions in Poland were cases of suspected Down syndrome in the foetus - it's hardly a case of a fatal condition, don't you think
OP jon357 66 | 16,977
28 Oct 2020 #506
it's hardly a case of a fatal condition,

Would you want to have it?
gumishu 11 | 5,603
28 Oct 2020 #507
people with Down syndrom can enjoy their lives if surrounded by a friendly environment
OP jon357 66 | 16,977
28 Oct 2020 #508
people with Down syndrom can enjoy

Not all. Perhaps not even most. The people you see out and about who have Down's Syndrome are not necessarily typical of the majority of those who have it. Not everyone with Down's have the same traits associated with it. Many have very complex health needs, varying cognitive abilities and dual diagnoses of learning disabilities and mental illness.

Have you spent much time in long-term special care facilities.

And in any case, it isn't about that; it is about women choosing whether or not to continue with pregnancies.
Lenka 3 | 2,558
28 Oct 2020 #509
that would be a reasonable and responsible thing to do

No, it would be stupid to do so. It would be way overdue, everybody would be like 'why now suddenly' and it would force many families to deal with the current change .

Why the government doesn't say ok, it seems there is a lot of social unrest, we will keep the old rules till the end of pandemic? Wouldn't that be responsible?

you see a problem with that?

If that is what they want - no. But the choice should be theirs. Especially if it's the case of the lethal diseases.

over 40 per cent of legal abortions in Poland were cases of suspected Down syndrome

And the remaining over 50%?
OP jon357 66 | 16,977
28 Oct 2020 #510
Have you seen some of the slogans that the thousands of (mostly young) people are carrying:
"Ducktatorship!"
"Keep the cat, leave beavers alone!"
"Poland is like the Smurf village: the main threat is an old guy with a cat"
"Tak się zacznie wielki bój: milion cipek - jeden chuj!"

It doesn't bode well for the regime long (or even medium) term.

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