Presidential elections 2025 - the race has commenced!!!

So.... afraid to bet.


PiS's problem in 2023....

But PiS did try to hold on to power in 2023 - dithered for months before allowing the government to form.

Attitude among the educated, the taxpayers, the hard working and the optimistic in Poland today is resignation but that's it's only 5 years, lets get on with it.

PiS, like most right parties have replaced their dying voters with a new constituency - bitter young men. There are plenty here on this board. Now there is a few years of reflection while we work out how to sell democracy to the basement dwellers - not easy as AI and outsourcing start to reduce job opportunities at entry level

They certainly didn't facilitate the transfer of power but they didn't really try to block it, they just wasted a lot of taxpayer money to form a two week government for no real purpose (and PiS voters forgave them the waste of money because......)

A lot of those 'bitter young men' who vote voted for konfederacja and then Nawrocki make more money than you, or are in the same position of running a business.


LOL, even Tusk said he's not running a democracy anymore but a democracja walcząsa system that will break laws.

We will get rid of the useless and unlawful Tusk regime in two years, and it's leaders especially Bodnar will be working out how to pass the soap to bubba in jail.

Maybe a few of them do - vape shop owners and self employed Uber drivers. But polling data shows that business owners and high earners voted heavily for Trzaskowski

One of the most shocking data points is that employees voted heavily for Nawrocki - 63 percent. I guess that includes many workers in factories and small business that have developed and prospered under EU membership

Wanna bet?

How is it unlawful?

I guess the most glaring was appointing a national prosecutor without the presidents signature.
Accepting some legal decisions and ignoring others from the same court.

newdirection.online/the-european-journal/article/when_democrats_govern_undemocratically_the_case_of_poland
newdirection.online/files/TheCaseOfPoland-2025-02-18.pdf

One person is certainly happy with the elections' result. I'll give you a hint - he likes three things: botox, ice hockey, and bare-chest horseback riding.

Those who voted for Nawrocki can wear their onucas with pride and apply to Novichok for the membership in Putin's fan club.

wanna go back to the president breaking the law in 2015? PiS started that ball rolling and has no right to complain about the aftershocks...

An interesting map but no surprises

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Tusk and Holownia lost this election. Holownia shouldnt have run, and Tusk should have kept his mouth shut. The Tusk lead colition has done nothing in their year and a half except go after PiS, spend a lot of time and money on witch hunts. Now those same people being investigated are getting Presidential pardons probably on day one. Tusk delivered what exactly from all the promises they made? Nothing that I can recall. And now Tusk and his gang are all but dead men walking with the Presidential veto hanging over anything they try to do.

Holownia didn't have a chance.

But piling on Trzaskowski didn't help.... his endorsement couldn't undo the damage done there.... a more united front form the beginning would have been useful.


Lots of places in the Southeast had block voting.... with N getting over 80% or even 90% in some places....

Dziękuję Polsko B..... czy lepiej C...

We have to get on with it but if we face five years of "he said, she said "in the court system, that will finish PiS off and possibly PO too.

The map look likes that for 20 years and obviously since 1815. But I think the system can only withstand maybe another 10 years of that - disparity between tax receipts and voting patterns is so big now that it will start to threaten OMOV. Every 2 years I wake up wondering why we should continue to put up with huge fiscal transfers to villagers who will clearly vote for any donkey wearing a PiS rosette.

Despite everything I think there have been some solid economic achievements last 2 years - taking the state companies back towards sanity, good growth in investment, strong zloty, low unemployment. Inflation remains a problem though and I haven't believed the official figures since about 2019

Yes, increasing standards also increase dissatisfaction that things aren't even better....

That's been known forever.

Tusk's dream of a pro-EU POlitburo running the show has been knocked out!




Trzaskowski won't be the next Polish president, but at least he now has plenty of time to serve as a grand marshal at one of your gay pride parades somewhere.

Are you organizing one in Tripoli this year? As one of your fellow globohomos, I'm sure he'd love to support your "community" over there.

Poland is pro-EU although it is now a weaker voice.

I doubt you understand why voting frekwencja is skewed towards the elderly and rural.


Hardly, being only an occasional visitor for a day or so at a time. A couple of thousand miles further south, maybe, though people in Africa

So where does Trzaskowski no now? He has no real future in national politics after going 0 for 2.... esp with the lame @ss candidates that PiS picks... a dishrag and a p|mp shouldn't be formidable foes...

My guess is that next stop after his mayorship: Brussels, first as an EMP and then looking for appointments there.

Shame. Poland had the chance to elect a president who would have allowed Tusk to undo the damage PiS has done to the country. Now he goes into rest of his term greatly weakened, and this will also affect Poland' a role im Europe. Just when one hoped that Poland could finally wield the influence it deserved.

That requires good relationships with other countries which PiS voters mostly don't want. It is what it is.

....so...please... someone with more insight into Poland than the german media tell me more: Does Putin just gain a new buddy in Nawrocki? Or is that just leftist hyperbole?

Not a buddy (at least not right away) but definitely a soul mate or a mental equivalent.

....now....what will that mean for our european defense?

Actually it only lacks the AfD in the Reichstag and Putin will get invited.....that could end the Ukraine-War, heh:)

(Okay, bad joke)

:)

Sense of humour is important.

If you don't know how and what to think about Poland's new president, just imagine that Kaczynski is the new president now (Nawrocki is only his marionette).

Oh!

Oh je....

Same old, same old..... I wonder if Nawrocki will go the Banaś route... or just start his own rackets on the side.....

That doesn't in any sense depend on the eu.


I see it as all the worst of the past 30 years of Polish politicians all crammed into one uninspiring body.

A frothy brew of Lepper, Palikot, Kaczynski and that senator who was filmed doing coke with tarts in Konstancin.

It is. While obviously other arrangements can be done for countries in EU first point will be EU defence.

If anything, it will be about the defence of any countries taking part (particularly those with a nuclear arsenal), plus advancing the strategic interests of those countries in the region.

Macron has mostly given up his aspirations and the election of Nawrocki does affect Poland's role (and credibility) in this. A shame, since Poland has a large and capable army.

Is that why Brigitte was beating on him?