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Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates


OP pawian 168 | 11,174
23 Mar 2020 #451
Hey, guys, who openly support PiS and their candidate here: Spike, dolnośląsk, antheads, NotoForeigners, Ironside, gumishu, kondzior.
What do you think about PiS` firm plans to run the election on 10 May? Do you agree it is a good move not to cancel it? Are you going to vote?

In free Poland: Should PiS be sued for endangering people`s health and life?
dolnoslask 5 | 2,706
23 Mar 2020 #452
guys, who openly support PiS and their candidate here: Spike, dolnośląsk,

No I don't Idiot, where do I say that I support any politicians, they are all morons.
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
23 Mar 2020 #453
No I don't Idiot,

haha I see it pisssed you off. No need for overreacting, really. Calm down, I didn`t want to hurt you.

Howeverm you could still present your opinion on elections in May. Do you have any at all?
Spike31 2 | 1,268
23 Mar 2020 #454
Hey, guys, who openly support PiS and their candidate here: Spike

I support Konfederacja first and foremost. PiS is my second best option since the rest of political scene is just pitiful.

Should PiS be sued for endangering people`s health and life?

I'm not a follower of a "cult of a coronavirus" spread by media [and the masses] since to me it's just another variation of common flu with a similar mortality rate and far less worldwide spread.

And yes, of course that I'm going to vote in presidential elections.
mafketis 23 | 7,875
23 Mar 2020 #455
to me it's just another variation of common flu

The problem is that, unlike flu, it has the capability of completely overwhelming a country's healthcare system... there are other unknowns, problems but that's the main one. "It's just the flu" overlooks the fact that it's hospitalization rate is over ten times that of flu and requires lots of attention and resources...

This isn't the time to be some juvenile edgelord but to err on the side of caution...
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
23 Mar 2020 #456
where do I say that I support any politicians, they are all morons.

You are very inconsistent. On the previous page you commented very positively about young people who desire to become PiS politicians with a spectacular career.

I support Konfederacja first and foremost. PiS is my second best option

Yes, we know it. That`s enough to include you in the list of PiS supporters. The same with Iron.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,706
23 Mar 2020 #457
become PiS politicians with a spectacular career.

Only because it showed young people were starting to get an opportunity in politics where traditionally only old gits ruled.

I would not of minded if it was **** or *** or pawian commie/nazi party , my point was youth were getting political opportunity.

Pawian you are so thick sometimes , for gods sake sort your comprehension out.
Spike31 2 | 1,268
23 Mar 2020 #458
Yes, we know it. That`s enough to include you in the list of PiS supporters.

That's a pretty interesting selection you're making there. "You're either with us, or against us". Benito Mussolini used it very often in his speeches:-) Are you a fan, @pawian?
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
23 Mar 2020 #459
Benito Mussolini used it very often in his speeches:-)

Mr Demagogue, use your logic now. You said: PiS is my second best option and now you are pisssed off when I include you in the list of PiS supporters. :):)
Spike31 2 | 1,268
23 Mar 2020 #460
My first and foremost political option is Konfederacja.

PiS is my second option, not because I love PiS but simply because the remaining rest [POKO, PSL, SLD] is a political cesspool. So if I couldn't have Konfederacja's candidate as a president I'll vote for a lesser evil that is PiS candidate in the second round of voting.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,908
23 Mar 2020 #461
And yes, of course that I'm going to vote in presidential elections.

And yet again, you follow the PiS line rather than the Konfederacja line. Bosak already made it clear that these are no conditions for holding an election.
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
23 Mar 2020 #462
I'll vote for a lesser evil that is PiS candidate in the second round of voting.

Yes, exactly. I don`t know why you are saying it over and over again. I knew it from out last year`s discussions, that is why I placed you in the list. So I really don`t understand why you have a problem with it.

Bosak already made it clear that these are no conditions for holding an election.

That guy is more reasonable than many of his voters, it seems. :):)
delphiandomine 83 | 17,908
23 Mar 2020 #463
I think even genuine Konfederacja supporters have realised that PiS will stop at nothing to steal this election. However, a lot of people are genuinely angry about this, and Duda's electorate being older and poorer has the most to lose from this irresponsible decision.
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
23 Mar 2020 #464
Unfortunately for them, they will realise it when it is too late.
Spike31 2 | 1,268
24 Mar 2020 #465
Yes, exactly. I don`t know why you are saying it over and over again.

I'm doing it because my words are being twisted over and over again.

I've got my own brain and my own opinions. The fact that I support K.Bosak doesn't mean that I will agree with him in everything in 100% and quote uncritically everything he says. I'd leave that kind of blind cult following for POKO lemmings.
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
24 Mar 2020 #466
I see. You prefer the blind cult following for PiS lemmings. :):)

I'm doing it because my words are being twisted over and over again.

Where exactly?
Spike31 2 | 1,268
24 Mar 2020 #467
@pawian, you're trying so hard to queeze me in some boxes where I don't belong. I know it would be easier to confront my opinion once you conveniently frame me but I'm not going to make it any easier for you, heh

Where exactly?

Not by you, don't take it personally. But I may use it as a form of invocation to my post to discurage twisting of my words
delphiandomine 83 | 17,908
24 Mar 2020 #468
The fact that I support K.Bosak

It's amazing how much you're clinging to this despite continually offering opinions that are far more in line with PiS than Konfederacja and Bosak.

You prefer the blind cult following for PiS

He obviously prefers a party where the slightest criticism results in being suspended from the Party. Other parties, such as Konfederacja, PO, the SLD, etc have healthy internal debate - PiS doesn't.
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
24 Mar 2020 #469
Yes, PIS is one-chief-only party. Those guys around him have no balls at all. :):)



Spike31 2 | 1,268
24 Mar 2020 #470
If we treated common flu infections, which may be also leathal especially for the elders, with the same atention that we're treating new trendy coronavirus the health system would collapse straigh away.

The reason that we don't do it is because we got used to it since flu is known to humankind since the beginning of civilization.

@delphiandomine, @pawian Smart readers can deduct my political stance and my opinions from my posts. And I don't care much for the others, I only want to reach the smart ones :-)
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
1 Apr 2020 #471
Amazing developments in PiS. According to Newsweek, Health Minister convinced Prime Minister the elections should be cancelled. That will make Kaczyński furious coz he is really intent on holding them.

newsweek.pl/polska/polityka/koronawirus-czy-wybory-sie-odbeda/2x248pe
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
2 Apr 2020 #472
That will make Kaczyński furious coz he is really intent on holding them.

At any cost. That is why their newest plan is to hold postal voting for everybody. hahahaha Polish Post will have a lot of work - I can see those millions of people who deal with collecting mail, opening it, counting votes etc.

Read about it:
polandin.com/47358158/ruling-party-considers-postal-votes-for-all
delphiandomine 83 | 17,908
2 Apr 2020 #473
It's an absurd plan, and proves that Kaczyński wants to maintain power at all costs.

Furthermore, they want to deliver the ballots without verifying people's identity or receipt. It's a guarantee of electoral fraud.
cms neuf - | 1,325
2 Apr 2020 #474
Totally agree - all the effort they are putting into this should be spent on testing, on getting more protective equipment and building extra emergency capacity

I have no idea why the people around Kaczynski can't convince him of this
mafketis 23 | 7,875
2 Apr 2020 #475
His thinking is pure, distilled PRL.... I wonder if Szumowski (who's done a very good job so far) will resign? He seems very frustrated with the whole situation.

Even the usual PiS defenders here can't bring themselves to get behind JK's crazy PRL style manufactured consent...
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
2 Apr 2020 #476
It's an absurd plan, and proves that Kaczyński wants to maintain power at all costs.

That is really amazing. He should be rather thinking about his departure and the "reward" he will get for his actions in this world. Or is his outward devotion and piety a scam to dupe Catholic voters?



peterweg 36 | 2,317
2 Apr 2020 #477
of common flu

Its a variety of SARS and MERS.
OP pawian 168 | 11,174
2 Apr 2020 #478
Shouldn`t the Church contain PiS? I heard bishops are already worried about falling income from Sunday mass collections etc. Currently, only 5 people are allowed to atttend a mass serive in a church. If more people get infected during elections, the loss of profits for the clergy may continue for a longer time.

Bishops, time to take action! Don`t allow PiS even think of running elections! If you don`t care about believers, at least think about your pockets. .
delphiandomine 83 | 17,908
3 Apr 2020 #479
Or is his outward devotion and piety a scam to dupe Catholic voters?

It's an obvious scam.

The sad part is that the Church fell for it.
Spike31 2 | 1,268
3 Apr 2020 #480
Latest presidential election polls from ibris for onet.pl. A. Duda is dominating but what's interesting is that K.Bosak is 3rd and only 3% behind POKO candidate.





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