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Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates


dolnoslask  5 | 2807
23 Mar 2020   #451
guys, who openly support PiS and their candidate here: Spike, dolnośląsk,

No I don't Idiot, where do I say that I support any politicians, they are all morons.
OP pawian  221 | 26145
23 Mar 2020   #452
No I don't Idiot,

haha I see it pisssed you off. No need for overreacting, really. Calm down, I didn`t want to hurt you.

Howeverm you could still present your opinion on elections in May. Do you have any at all?
Spike31  3 | 1485
23 Mar 2020   #453
Hey, guys, who openly support PiS and their candidate here: Spike

I support Konfederacja first and foremost. PiS is my second best option since the rest of political scene is just pitiful.

Should PiS be sued for endangering people`s health and life?

I'm not a follower of a "cult of a coronavirus" spread by media [and the masses] since to me it's just another variation of common flu with a similar mortality rate and far less worldwide spread.

And yes, of course that I'm going to vote in presidential elections.
mafketis  38 | 11109
23 Mar 2020   #454
to me it's just another variation of common flu

The problem is that, unlike flu, it has the capability of completely overwhelming a country's healthcare system... there are other unknowns, problems but that's the main one. "It's just the flu" overlooks the fact that it's hospitalization rate is over ten times that of flu and requires lots of attention and resources...

This isn't the time to be some juvenile edgelord but to err on the side of caution...
OP pawian  221 | 26145
23 Mar 2020   #455
where do I say that I support any politicians, they are all morons.

You are very inconsistent. On the previous page you commented very positively about young people who desire to become PiS politicians with a spectacular career.

I support Konfederacja first and foremost. PiS is my second best option

Yes, we know it. That`s enough to include you in the list of PiS supporters. The same with Iron.
dolnoslask  5 | 2807
23 Mar 2020   #456
become PiS politicians with a spectacular career.

Only because it showed young people were starting to get an opportunity in politics where traditionally only old gits ruled.

I would not of minded if it was **** or *** or pawian commie/nazi party , my point was youth were getting political opportunity.

Pawian you are so thick sometimes , for gods sake sort your comprehension out.
Spike31  3 | 1485
23 Mar 2020   #457
Yes, we know it. That`s enough to include you in the list of PiS supporters.

That's a pretty interesting selection you're making there. "You're either with us, or against us". Benito Mussolini used it very often in his speeches:-) Are you a fan, @pawian?
OP pawian  221 | 26145
23 Mar 2020   #458
Benito Mussolini used it very often in his speeches:-)

Mr Demagogue, use your logic now. You said: PiS is my second best option and now you are pisssed off when I include you in the list of PiS supporters. :):)
Spike31  3 | 1485
23 Mar 2020   #459
My first and foremost political option is Konfederacja.

PiS is my second option, not because I love PiS but simply because the remaining rest [POKO, PSL, SLD] is a political cesspool. So if I couldn't have Konfederacja's candidate as a president I'll vote for a lesser evil that is PiS candidate in the second round of voting.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823
23 Mar 2020   #460
And yes, of course that I'm going to vote in presidential elections.

And yet again, you follow the PiS line rather than the Konfederacja line. Bosak already made it clear that these are no conditions for holding an election.
OP pawian  221 | 26145
23 Mar 2020   #461
I'll vote for a lesser evil that is PiS candidate in the second round of voting.

Yes, exactly. I don`t know why you are saying it over and over again. I knew it from out last year`s discussions, that is why I placed you in the list. So I really don`t understand why you have a problem with it.

Bosak already made it clear that these are no conditions for holding an election.

That guy is more reasonable than many of his voters, it seems. :):)
delphiandomine  86 | 17823
23 Mar 2020   #462
I think even genuine Konfederacja supporters have realised that PiS will stop at nothing to steal this election. However, a lot of people are genuinely angry about this, and Duda's electorate being older and poorer has the most to lose from this irresponsible decision.
OP pawian  221 | 26145
23 Mar 2020   #463
Unfortunately for them, they will realise it when it is too late.
Spike31  3 | 1485
24 Mar 2020   #464
Yes, exactly. I don`t know why you are saying it over and over again.

I'm doing it because my words are being twisted over and over again.

I've got my own brain and my own opinions. The fact that I support K.Bosak doesn't mean that I will agree with him in everything in 100% and quote uncritically everything he says. I'd leave that kind of blind cult following for POKO lemmings.
OP pawian  221 | 26145
24 Mar 2020   #465
I see. You prefer the blind cult following for PiS lemmings. :):)

I'm doing it because my words are being twisted over and over again.

Where exactly?
Spike31  3 | 1485
24 Mar 2020   #466
@pawian, you're trying so hard to queeze me in some boxes where I don't belong. I know it would be easier to confront my opinion once you conveniently frame me but I'm not going to make it any easier for you, heh

Where exactly?

Not by you, don't take it personally. But I may use it as a form of invocation to my post to discurage twisting of my words
delphiandomine  86 | 17823
24 Mar 2020   #467
The fact that I support K.Bosak

It's amazing how much you're clinging to this despite continually offering opinions that are far more in line with PiS than Konfederacja and Bosak.

You prefer the blind cult following for PiS

He obviously prefers a party where the slightest criticism results in being suspended from the Party. Other parties, such as Konfederacja, PO, the SLD, etc have healthy internal debate - PiS doesn't.
OP pawian  221 | 26145
24 Mar 2020   #468
Yes, PIS is one-chief-only party. Those guys around him have no balls at all. :):)


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Spike31  3 | 1485
24 Mar 2020   #469
If we treated common flu infections, which may be also leathal especially for the elders, with the same atention that we're treating new trendy coronavirus the health system would collapse straigh away.

The reason that we don't do it is because we got used to it since flu is known to humankind since the beginning of civilization.

@delphiandomine, @pawian Smart readers can deduct my political stance and my opinions from my posts. And I don't care much for the others, I only want to reach the smart ones :-)
OP pawian  221 | 26145
1 Apr 2020   #470
Amazing developments in PiS. According to Newsweek, Health Minister convinced Prime Minister the elections should be cancelled. That will make Kaczyński furious coz he is really intent on holding them.

newsweek.pl/polska/polityka/koronawirus-czy-wybory-sie-odbeda/2x248pe
OP pawian  221 | 26145
2 Apr 2020   #471
That will make Kaczyński furious coz he is really intent on holding them.

At any cost. That is why their newest plan is to hold postal voting for everybody. hahahaha Polish Post will have a lot of work - I can see those millions of people who deal with collecting mail, opening it, counting votes etc.

Read about it:
polandin.com/47358158/ruling-party-considers-postal-votes-for-all
delphiandomine  86 | 17823
2 Apr 2020   #472
It's an absurd plan, and proves that Kaczyński wants to maintain power at all costs.

Furthermore, they want to deliver the ballots without verifying people's identity or receipt. It's a guarantee of electoral fraud.
cms neuf  1 | 1920
2 Apr 2020   #473
Totally agree - all the effort they are putting into this should be spent on testing, on getting more protective equipment and building extra emergency capacity

I have no idea why the people around Kaczynski can't convince him of this
mafketis  38 | 11109
2 Apr 2020   #474
His thinking is pure, distilled PRL.... I wonder if Szumowski (who's done a very good job so far) will resign? He seems very frustrated with the whole situation.

Even the usual PiS defenders here can't bring themselves to get behind JK's crazy PRL style manufactured consent...
OP pawian  221 | 26145
2 Apr 2020   #475
It's an absurd plan, and proves that Kaczyński wants to maintain power at all costs.

That is really amazing. He should be rather thinking about his departure and the "reward" he will get for his actions in this world. Or is his outward devotion and piety a scam to dupe Catholic voters?


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peterweg  37 | 2305
2 Apr 2020   #476
of common flu

Its a variety of SARS and MERS.
OP pawian  221 | 26145
2 Apr 2020   #477
Shouldn`t the Church contain PiS? I heard bishops are already worried about falling income from Sunday mass collections etc. Currently, only 5 people are allowed to atttend a mass serive in a church. If more people get infected during elections, the loss of profits for the clergy may continue for a longer time.

Bishops, time to take action! Don`t allow PiS even think of running elections! If you don`t care about believers, at least think about your pockets. .
delphiandomine  86 | 17823
3 Apr 2020   #478
Or is his outward devotion and piety a scam to dupe Catholic voters?

It's an obvious scam.

The sad part is that the Church fell for it.
Spike31  3 | 1485
3 Apr 2020   #479
Latest presidential election polls from ibris for onet.pl. A. Duda is dominating but what's interesting is that K.Bosak is 3rd and only 3% behind POKO candidate.


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OP pawian  221 | 26145
3 Apr 2020   #480
Exactly 10 years ago, Jarosław Kaczyński explicitly ordered his brother to land in Smolensk, Russia at any cost to score political gains. His decision caused a tragedy in which 96 people were killed.

Today history repeats itself. JK is ordering Poles to go to elections despite the raging pandemia. It is certain this will kill many more people than 96. How many? It seems JK wants to find it out.

He is Satan incarnate.


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