Reactions in Poland to Alexei Navalny's death

Been listening to a lot of John Gray* lately describing the problems in the modern liberal order (short story liberal democracy is dead and not coming back and worse things are on therise).

Anyhoo... he mentions (as I do sometimes) the problem of people who are in office too long. As they become cocooned in their political bubble they become alienated fromm the public they are supposed to represent or serve and when they've been around too long they lose the ability to recognize mistakes.... so when a policy doesn't work they double down and quadruple down instead of trying something else....

He gives the example of Margaret Thatcher who was weirdly obsessed with the idea of a poll tax. After it failed in Scotland she was undeterred and tried to introduce it in England which led to her ouster from power.

This also explains putain's reluctance to use any of the many exit ramps available to him before... no one around can tell him the truth.

And once you get ahead by killing enemies (which I don't think any supporter of his can deny he's done) you lose the ability to discern if killing a particular enemy is a good idea.

but the broken russian system of government means he stays in power until he's dead (if you think that guy hopping around with completely differen body language and weird bumps on his cheeks is really putain) or there's some kind of coup.... there are literally no other ways of changing a head of state now.

*not the 'men are from mars' guy, he's someone completely different:

youtube.com/watch?v=6rsGkfngA5M

It was a much fairer system than what we have now..... what is wrong with EVERONE paying for the services they get?

Certainly not anyone acting on Putin's orders. To answer this question we have to get the autopsy report.

There are many reasons why inmates die ahead of schedule. You know what those are so I will not get into it now...

In a system without the effective death penalty, the state gives lifers a license to kill. That's why life-no-parole is idiotic; either a limited term to assure good behavior or the death penalty.

I doubt there'll be a genuine autopsy done.

Just a r*SSian 'autopsy' with the report completed in advance.

They're lying about Alexei Navalny "Putin's Enemy"



Navalny was a Russian citizen , and died in Russia , and it triggered an avalanche of condemnation from the west , towards Putin in particular . Whilst Gonzalo Lira a US citizen , tortured and murdered in a Ukraine jail , without even a whimper of dissent from the same hypocrites in the west .

Memo to Putin haters: Watch this video and STFU.

It's not about how ideologically appropriate you or I think the policy is. The relevant part is

-it didn't work when tried in Scotland

-a large percentage/majority of her constituents DID NOT WANT IT!!!!!

When the citizenry dislikes or absolutely rejects a policy favored by the government there are a few options

-pull it off the shelf

-give it up

-tinker with it and retool it

-try to convince them over time

Thatcher did none of these. In very typical (neo)liberal fashion she just decided to double down and do it anyway and was the end of her political career.

Gray also says that Thatcher relentlessly pursued policies that made the type of society she wanted impossible to achieve (doesn't go into details).

The main point is that when in office too long, leaders lose touch with reality and do stupider and stupider things (like double down on unpopular policies).

Circling back around to the topic of this thread....

-putain's career began in the KGB

-the KGB killed people

-putain has killed / had people killed to further his policies and/or to remove troublesome figures (I don't know any serious person that would argue this point)

-putain has been in power too long

-putain having Navalny killed is a classic example of a petrified ruler doubling down when it wasn't necessary

Sometimes I am dumb and don't notice things in a timely manner.

The difference between me and some others here.... is that I'm able to recognize that.

Isn't it a weird coincidence that Navalny died during the Munich Security Conference which was then derailed into discussions of Navalny instead of Ukraine?

That's on top of the weird coincidence that he died on Lithuanian independence day....

Anyone got any other weird coincidences?

He's awesome, remember reading False Dawn: delusions of global capitalism back in the day.

I did wonder.

We should look carefully at some of their space activities right now.

Last week I went to my dentist who loves telling stories during treatment. While replacing an old filling, he told me that if Navalny had ruled instead of Putin, Russia would have attacked Ukraine and stole Crimea the same. Navalny was a nationalist who dreamt of Great Russia, just like Putin does.

This woman is either a complete moron or trying to make a career for herself as a conspiracy theorist.

1. Why would you be against a "Russian Trump"?
2. Why would you be against someone who is anti immigration?
3.Why does she deny that novichock exists as a Russian poison as we in The UK know only too well that it does!

Irrelevant.


Also irrelevant, the fact is was that it was a fair policy.

And your attempt to compare Thatcher to Putin is both infantile and ridiculous.

The murders I put under "Putin" are the "traitor" murders. Perhaps, let's call them assassinations instead.

The defector helicopter pilot killed this week in Spain. Litvinenko, Skripal, Prigozhin, etc.

These seem to really have his trademark about them. As a former officer, who takes his oath seriously, these people are less than scum in his eyes. Especially the helicopter pilot, who managed to even kill two of his brothers in arms, because they didn't want any part of his plan.

Some other murders or assassinations, were clearly clumsy favors done for him by the Chechens. The murder of Anna Politkovskaya. The murder of Boris Nemtsov. The murder of Yuri Budanov.

To me, these were obvious instances of Ramzan running wild. He's young, impetuous, and pretty stupid - and also has the character of a Rottweiler. Fed essentially from birth by Putin, he sees in him some kind of father (it doesn't help that Putin's enemies killed Ramzan's father). Putin's enemies, are Ramzan's enemies. Unlike the old man, he feels he's more capable of solving problems in quick and efficient manner.

And these are OK by you?

Yeah, more or less.

I think, if I'm not mistaken, that America also doesn't mind removing certain traitors.

Israel kind of made it their specialty. Makes us Russians jealous.

There are other countries, that practice a similar zero tolerance attitude towards treason.

If you are willing to betray all your colleagues, friends, family, and motherland - just for 30 silver pieces - what do you deserve if not death?

Well, at least you are an honest Russian..... very rare.....

Mongrel, stop pretending that novichok ate your brain. It can`t eat sth that doesn`t exist! Poor excuse! hahahaha

@pawian

Oh, do go to bed Jerzy, you are too boring.....

Stop this night dreaming, it is useless, mongrel. Dream about your pussy instead, not my bed and me in it. :):):)

Before this war, there was sense in obfuscating the reasons behind those killings.

Now, when we are gonna nuke each other any day, what's the point?

Any intelligent person understood that it was Russia liquidating those persons anyway.

The message is for an internal audience. If you want to go and sell Russian secrets to the Brits and Americans, be prepared to die.

If you are willing to kill fellow servicemen, and deliver expensive Russian military kit into the hands of Ukrainians - be prepared to die.

This should make the calculus for any would-be traitors fairly straightforward.

When people say that this is how the mafia operates, but not a European state... I want to ask why then do those Americans and Israelis behave the same?

Nobody has a problem with that particular case, I think. I mean that pilot.

I hope not.

That guy is obviously a low life piece of sh*t.

1. There was no novichok found in Navalny in the German hospital.
2. Navalny was on parole and couldn't leave Russia to be treated in Germany. It was Putin who personally intervened to let him go.
3. Navalny was arrested after his return from Germany for violating the conditions of his parole.
4. She does not deny that novichok exists in Russia. It's you and other Westerners who do not admit that it exists in the US, the UK, Germany, and many other places.

5. As said earlier today, Putin had nothing to do with Navalny's death. When the FSB or Mossad want you dead, you will be dead even if you try to hide in a Peruvian cave.

One of the best ways to kill is the Bulgarian way - a poisoned dart a guy standing next to you at a bus stop shoots into your leg. He walks away and you drop dead in a minute or so.


That's why I like Russia as well as the US for those extrajudicial executions of terrorists and other azholes who don't read emails - in their homes or cars, with the family right next to the bad guy.

007 would be proud...

That is so unbelievably naive, especially coming from you.

And you didn't answer my questions.

1.Why would you be against a "Russian Trump".
2.Why would you be against someone who is anti immigration?

I respond only to comments about what I write.

Any questions about what is in #53?

Biden is announcing more sanctions on Russia tomorrow. LOL. What happened to the last set of sanctions? It didnt do jack $hit! Putin is selling oil hand over fist and his economy is booming.

Biden has shut off exports of LNG, so Putin will have even more business to fill his coffers!

Biden is a total idiot and all our enemies are laughing..

TRUMP 2024

...and admits that he didn't apply all he could. Putin puppet and ass kisser!!!!!!!

He just gave them enough to keep the war going. Were there any fighter jets Biden delivered that I missed? Biden is a super chicken afraid of his own shadow. Remember, he was the only person in Obamas war room that tired taking him out of killing Bin Laden. Our Navy is still being attacked and a cargo ship was just sunk.

Apparently, Iran has his number as well as Putin and Xi.

Never have our enemies been so embolden as under Biden.

I do admit that watching the US Navy hit the scum in Yemen brings a smile to my old face...