Raising Poland's legal drinking age to 21

Celebrations one twice a year ok (I mean little and at about 16) but giving a young person alcohol on regular basis is...stupid frankly speaking. And it's not only about alcoholism but general impact of alcohol.

As a kid I was allowed bear foam. As a teenager I could take a sip or two of wine or beer. The first proper drink I was allowed with the grown-ups was after I turned 18.

Btw, an adult can be charged for giving alcohol to under 18. Even 16/17 yo

Alcohol is fun except when it's not.
Parents who have teens and a bar are evil.

Not in NJ.I once paid over 6k in fine for selling to a 19yo,even when the clerk checked his id which was fake,.the ABC cop said the law says selling to a minor is illegal no matter what id he shows.Its so hard to check if the ID/Dl from another state is legal or not.Illegals show only there passport and mexicans are so hard to judge there age.


Yeah the Liq license in Nj goes for millions,the new ones with population growth are auctioned and only TGIF etc big guys get it.No owner in Liquor business would survive that.I would call cops on ABC officers when they parked there car in my parking lot as suspicious car and get them out.


There is a ABC law that says"visibly drunk should not be served"LOL and try to enforce that in a bar full of bikers on a friday/sat evening,even my bouncers were scared(some were cops moonlighting)

My son now admits he used to pay people 10 bucks who would buy it for him and friends from my store when he was 19.
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Because Slavs in general, but Russians especially, do not know how to drink.
Actually, I would put Poles in there too, but they are nowhere near as bad as Russians.


Agreed, but we are talking about teenagers, 14 plus, and alcohol is not a Class A drug!
It is something that society has been using as a socialising agent for centuries.....get a grip man!

Actually, they know how to drink all too well. The problem is that if you refuse to drink with them, you may get stabbed.

Young teens are not even fully developed yet either physically or emotionally.
And you think feeding them a drug is o.k. !
You are the one that needs to get a grip.

Quite. The French/Spanish approach is the healthiest one.

Na, you will just ger drunk and fall over....


No, I think you need to get a life, I would not invite a miserable old puritan like you to one of my parties or barbeques....you would spoil the fun.


Common sense.We Europeans really don't need advice from these "New Worlders" on how to behave.
They have only been around for a couple of hundred years and think they know it all......pathetic....

Puritans live longer.

Here are some annoying facts from euobserver.com: euobserver.com/social/145854

And the world's heaviest drinkers are ... Europeans

In 2016, alcohol killed 291,100 people in Europe, more than ten times the number of traffic accidents in that year - this represents about 800 deaths per day and 5.5 percent of all deaths in Europe in that year.

Of all alcohol-attributable deaths in Europe, 76.4 percent are due to diseases, such as cancer, liver cirrhosis, and cardiovascular disease, and 18.3 percent are caused by injuries, such as road traffic accidents, suicides, and murders.

So, before another fun party, talk to your liver and other organs. They hate that poison.

I will take sober every day.

Especially since their life expctancy is so much lower than that of France, with its healthy attitude to drinking.

Back on topic.........


The thread is about Poland not England so please refrain from the "We" as you are 100% British.


It really does not matter what YOU 'think' as my opinion carries as much weight as yours.
Factor in the common sense and mine carries much then your child abuse.


Because I don't believe in giving drugs to a child and you do makes me miserable and you a happy ?
Do you have any idea how stupid you sound.
My opinion that the legal drink age in Poland should be 18
You disagree fine but why insult me by attacking my religion ?

I would rather die sober at 80 in a car accident than from a bad liver and drunk at 81.
Life expectancy includes everything, wars, drugs, and all. If some a-hole overdoses at 20, that's a good thing - one moron less to create problems later.

Nobody cares that he lowered the life expectancy for the rest of us.

Back on topic........
Children under the age of 18 are easily influenced.
Being under the influence of alcohol makes them even more vulnerable say to some pervert that wants them for sex.
Give the little boy some wine makes it much easier for the pervert to bugger him.
The perverts would like no drinking age at all for children.

Which is why families tend to ration it to occasional treats.

As well as a pervert would give a child alcohol "for a treat."
A child under 18 should not be trained to feel comfortable drinking adult beverages.

Do you think such a person would care about the law?

Is there anyone near you that you can ask?

At least an 18 year old would have a chance vs a 14 year old child.


If you are referring to yourself I guess I could.

You're still not getting it. Someone determined to ply a young person with intoxicants really wouldn't care about licensing laws.

Such things doubtless happen whatever the drinking age is.


It's not something I know about. Your lodger (the one on the register) is a better bet for advice.

No you're not getting it because you don't want to get it.
Parents that introduce a drug to under aged children (for a treat as you so innocently tried to make it sound) make them comfortable with consuming it.

A child made comfortable consuming a drug that could cost them their lives is wrong.
By the time they reach 21 years old they have much better judgment then they do at 14.
(21 is a young adult......14 is a child......get it)
I hope you got it that time because it is quite obvious that you are just playing dumb arguing
The people of Poland are fully aware why you think 14 and 15 year old boys should be allowed to feel comfortable drinking alcohol with Father jon.

They aren't 'under age' though, are they now, if they're above the legal age to have a drink.....


It isn't 21 anywhere in Europe, fortunately. Why would it be?

Any adult that gives alcohol to a minor and has sex in any form with that minor should be shot.

That is fortunately covered by the existing law in Poland.There is a long established age of consent, however that is an issue for other threads.

True, and so what does that prove?


So true.France life expectancy is 82.72, USA is 78.54........


I don't disagree,I agree completely, I just don't think kids should suddenly be allowed to drink at 18 without a little bit of gentle "training".

You seem to be having a little bit of trouble with your comprehension.....too much to drink?

The reality is that most kids have tried alcohol way before the legal drinking age, and trying to tell them they have to wait until they're 18 to try it is a joke. Teaching them to drink responsibly is a good thing. Seen far too many idiots completely hammered by the end of 'happy hour' drinking.

@Chemikiem

Agreed completely.
Most of the people I have known with an alcohol problem are those that grew up in an alcohol free environment and had no idea how to handle alcohol.

I call that child cruelty and bad parenting.

The answer to your question has been answered in my above six posts that you choose to ignore.
You sound like a spoiled child asking his Mommy, "why. why, why".


That's average is because of so many young American soldiers die protecting other milk sopping NATO allies which brings America's life expectancy down comparatively.

Poland's life expectancy is the same as American's if the truth be known however.


Finally it sunk in that Poland should have a 21 year old drinking age when young people have much better judgment then do children at 14 or 15.

OK, I got it. Euros drink more wine and that's why they live four years longer.
How about: The US has more black and Latino thugs and that's why Americans die sooner.

Every thread on this forum turns into "us vs them". Just go over by Belmont and Cicero in Chicago and watch the drunk Polocks stagger down the alley. I seen plenty of Euros drunk off their asses! The Irish? Ya, they dont drink! lol The Poles, Russians slam down vodka like water! Brits get so wasted they have to shut their streets down on the weekend and have special police units just to handle all the drunken idiots! LOL

I have another cause and effect...France has more Muslim migrants and that is why they live longer.

That wouldn't happen if dickheads didn't refuse to stay 'On-Topic'.