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The Iran war and Poland


Bobko  28 | 2459
12 hrs ago   #781
Are you quickly becoming my twin?

To use an astronomical analogy - I think we are like a binary asteroid.

Two bodies that orbit each other closely, when all other conditions are stable, but then suddenly have very volatile and collision-liable trajectories as soon as they pass a third body - which had exerted a momentary gravitational pull.

But...that's not how it is, so it ain't so simple.

Fine, have it your way.
Barney  19 | 1813
12 hrs ago   #782
Genocide, colonists, apartheid.

Genocide:that's what they are doing. Listen to their government
colonists: that would be someone setting up on someone else's property/land
Apartheid: that would be having different rules, laws and courts for different people

It's not a left-right issue it's right vs wrong
AntV  3 | 727
12 hrs ago   #783
prism of evangelical mythology.

This I concede. But, then again, the American evangelical is simplifying the complex; but, they so such in a more fanatical way by wrapping it ip in simplified biblical exegesis. But, then again, it is oversimplifying the American evangelical into a single monolithic package. They differ from each other, may jot as much as they differ in biblical interpretation, but they differ.
Novichok  6 | 9374
12 hrs ago   #784
Fine, have it your way.

You folded too soon...

Everything in life is actually very binary and, thus, very simple...

Starting with: Is she going to abort me? And ending with: Is this my doctor or Jesus?

laws and courts for different people

Laws and courts belong to the guy with the bigger gun and balls.

Why do you think the US does not recognize the ICC?

If these azzholes arrested a US Marine, a carrier group would find the Hague on the map very quicky...
AntV  3 | 727
12 hrs ago   #785
Fine, have it your way

😀 Forget Florida, move to Ohio. There's a house for sale at the end of my street. We can hang out, I'll pray the Office while you hit your dirty bong.

You folded too soon

STFU, Novi.
it's right vs wrong

Who is right? Marx or Herzl.
Novichok  6 | 9374
12 hrs ago   #786
STFU, Novi.

As a pro-bono attorney for Russia, I owe Bobko my support and advice.
Barney  19 | 1813
12 hrs ago   #787
Who is right? Marx or Herzl.

With regard to colonialism Marx was correct, Herzl did describe Zionism as colonialism.
AntV  3 | 727
12 hrs ago   #788
Freaking ambulance chaser!
AntV  3 | 727
12 hrs ago   #789
Marx was correct,

Odd combo of Subject and subject complement.

Herzl did describe Zionism as colonialism.

Hmm...if he did, I may have to reformulate. Hahaha. But, no, even if he did, what makes colonialism inherently bad? Or, better yet , is he actually correct to call it colonialism?
Barney  19 | 1813
11 hrs ago   #790
@AntV
He did and he was correct, he wasn't stupid he knew what the project involved.
AntV  3 | 727
11 hrs ago   #791
@Barney
I find it a novel and peculiar claim. How a ragtag group of people mostly from Russia converge onto a plot of land without the backing of a sovereign power can be colonists.

That is not mentioning the smallish, yet still robust, population of Jews who inhabited that area for centuries.
Novichok  6 | 9374
10 hrs ago   #792
Freaking ambulance chaser!

Ambulance chasers make money and drive Bentleys, not Toyotas like I do...

I lawyer for Russia and Putin because love one and admire the other.

Hey, cymes, akha Golden Moron...

What would you prefer as the outcome:

More damage or less damage?


The US shouldn't attack Iran is not an option so don't play stupid again...
Feniks  1 | 930
8 hrs ago   #793
Grossi from the IAEA seems to think damage was done.

Without inspecting the site no-one can know for sure what damage has been done. Satellite imagery will only show surface damage.

Ground-penetrating radar and seismic equipment would give more of an idea. It's way too premature to say Iran's nuclear facilities have been wiped out, despite Trump's declaration of 'total obliteration' of the sites. The presence of trucks etc a couple of days before the strikes at Fordow suggests it's more than likely the enriched uranium was moved beforehand.
Novichok  6 | 9374
8 hrs ago   #794
It's way too premature to say Iran's nuclear facilities have been wiped out,

What the US wiped out is any possibility that Iran will ever have nukes.

Since Golden Moron is unresponsive, how about you...

What would you prefer as the outcome:

More damage or less damage?

Bobko  28 | 2459
8 hrs ago   #795
suggests it's more than likely the enriched uranium was moved beforehand.

Moving HEU is not as easy as it sounds, based on what I've read from papers in recent days.

It's not as highly radioactive compared to other nuclear materials, but still poses a high risk.

It can literally explode like an ersatz nuclear bomb, in what's known as a "criticality" accident. That will kill anyone that is near, and contaminate the area.

Maybe it's possible to move it on 24 hours notice, but it seems like it's hard.
AntV  3 | 727
8 hrs ago   #796
@Feniks

Yes, I've said this at the outset. Too early to tell. Although more likely than not damage was done. Those were 30k ton bombs. The aftershock of those alone could create significant damage to fragile equipment. But, I agree with you. Let's wait.

Ambulance chasers make money and drive Bentleys, not Toyotas like I do..

Very true.

PF has become a little too intoxicating. Until next time, y'all take care.
Novichok  6 | 9374
8 hrs ago   #797
The day Iran explodes the first one, it will be Iraq 2.0 - minus maybes...and one forsure...
Feniks  1 | 930
7 hrs ago   #798
Moving HEU is not as easy as it sounds, based on what I've read from papers in recent days.

This is true and requires specialized equipment and adhering to strict protocols to minimise risk.

Maybe it's possible to move it on 24 hours notice, but it seems like it's hard.

I'm not saying it would be easy but they may well have had a plan in place for the unexpected. I'm sure they must have considered that at some point the site could be subject to attack and it might become necessary to move the uranium.

Although more likely than not damage was done

I would agree on that although finding out the extent will depend on how cooperative Iran will be.

PF has become a little too intoxicating. Until next time, y'all take care.

Leaving so soon? How could you! Bobko and Torq will never forgive you.
Novichok  6 | 9374
7 hrs ago   #799
If Israel and the US can hit Iran preemptively (Bravo!), Russia can invade Ukraine preemptively (Good job, guys)

Not that Russia needed anyone's permission...Just saying...
Alien  28 | 6975
1 hr ago   #800
invade Ukraine preemptively (Good job, guys)

The concept of "good work" means something different than getting soaked in trenches for 3.5 years in the same place.


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