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The Iran war and Poland


Bobko  28 | 2700
25 Jun 2025   #781
Are you quickly becoming my twin?

To use an astronomical analogy - I think we are like a binary asteroid.

Two bodies that orbit each other closely, when all other conditions are stable, but then suddenly have very volatile and collision-liable trajectories as soon as they pass a third body - which had exerted a momentary gravitational pull.

But...that's not how it is, so it ain't so simple.

Fine, have it your way.
Barney  19 | 1816
25 Jun 2025   #782
Genocide, colonists, apartheid.

Genocide:that's what they are doing. Listen to their government
colonists: that would be someone setting up on someone else's property/land
Apartheid: that would be having different rules, laws and courts for different people

It's not a left-right issue it's right vs wrong
AntV  3 | 732
25 Jun 2025   #783
prism of evangelical mythology.

This I concede. But, then again, the American evangelical is simplifying the complex; but, they so such in a more fanatical way by wrapping it ip in simplified biblical exegesis. But, then again, it is oversimplifying the American evangelical into a single monolithic package. They differ from each other, may jot as much as they differ in biblical interpretation, but they differ.
Novichok  7 | 9836
25 Jun 2025   #784
Fine, have it your way.

You folded too soon...

Everything in life is actually very binary and, thus, very simple...

Starting with: Is she going to abort me? And ending with: Is this my doctor or Jesus?

laws and courts for different people

Laws and courts belong to the guy with the bigger gun and balls.

Why do you think the US does not recognize the ICC?

If these azzholes arrested a US Marine, a carrier group would find the Hague on the map very quicky...
AntV  3 | 732
25 Jun 2025   #785
Fine, have it your way

😀 Forget Florida, move to Ohio. There's a house for sale at the end of my street. We can hang out, I'll pray the Office while you hit your dirty bong.

You folded too soon

STFU, Novi.
it's right vs wrong

Who is right? Marx or Herzl.
Novichok  7 | 9836
25 Jun 2025   #786
STFU, Novi.

As a pro-bono attorney for Russia, I owe Bobko my support and advice.
Barney  19 | 1816
25 Jun 2025   #787
Who is right? Marx or Herzl.

With regard to colonialism Marx was correct, Herzl did describe Zionism as colonialism.
AntV  3 | 732
25 Jun 2025   #788
Freaking ambulance chaser!
AntV  3 | 732
25 Jun 2025   #789
Marx was correct,

Odd combo of Subject and subject complement.

Herzl did describe Zionism as colonialism.

Hmm...if he did, I may have to reformulate. Hahaha. But, no, even if he did, what makes colonialism inherently bad? Or, better yet , is he actually correct to call it colonialism?
Barney  19 | 1816
25 Jun 2025   #790
@AntV
He did and he was correct, he wasn't stupid he knew what the project involved.
AntV  3 | 732
25 Jun 2025   #791
@Barney
I find it a novel and peculiar claim. How a ragtag group of people mostly from Russia converge onto a plot of land without the backing of a sovereign power can be colonists.

That is not mentioning the smallish, yet still robust, population of Jews who inhabited that area for centuries.
Novichok  7 | 9836
25 Jun 2025   #792
Freaking ambulance chaser!

Ambulance chasers make money and drive Bentleys, not Toyotas like I do...

I lawyer for Russia and Putin because love one and admire the other.

Hey, cymes, akha Golden Moron...

What would you prefer as the outcome:

More damage or less damage?


The US shouldn't attack Iran is not an option so don't play stupid again...
Feniks  1 | 958
25 Jun 2025   #793
Grossi from the IAEA seems to think damage was done.

Without inspecting the site no-one can know for sure what damage has been done. Satellite imagery will only show surface damage.

Ground-penetrating radar and seismic equipment would give more of an idea. It's way too premature to say Iran's nuclear facilities have been wiped out, despite Trump's declaration of 'total obliteration' of the sites. The presence of trucks etc a couple of days before the strikes at Fordow suggests it's more than likely the enriched uranium was moved beforehand.
Novichok  7 | 9836
25 Jun 2025   #794
It's way too premature to say Iran's nuclear facilities have been wiped out,

What the US wiped out is any possibility that Iran will ever have nukes.

Since Golden Moron is unresponsive, how about you...

What would you prefer as the outcome:

More damage or less damage?

Bobko  28 | 2700
25 Jun 2025   #795
suggests it's more than likely the enriched uranium was moved beforehand.

Moving HEU is not as easy as it sounds, based on what I've read from papers in recent days.

It's not as highly radioactive compared to other nuclear materials, but still poses a high risk.

It can literally explode like an ersatz nuclear bomb, in what's known as a "criticality" accident. That will kill anyone that is near, and contaminate the area.

Maybe it's possible to move it on 24 hours notice, but it seems like it's hard.
AntV  3 | 732
25 Jun 2025   #796
@Feniks

Yes, I've said this at the outset. Too early to tell. Although more likely than not damage was done. Those were 30k ton bombs. The aftershock of those alone could create significant damage to fragile equipment. But, I agree with you. Let's wait.

Ambulance chasers make money and drive Bentleys, not Toyotas like I do..

Very true.

PF has become a little too intoxicating. Until next time, y'all take care.
Novichok  7 | 9836
25 Jun 2025   #797
The day Iran explodes the first one, it will be Iraq 2.0 - minus maybes...and one forsure...
Feniks  1 | 958
25 Jun 2025   #798
Moving HEU is not as easy as it sounds, based on what I've read from papers in recent days.

This is true and requires specialized equipment and adhering to strict protocols to minimise risk.

Maybe it's possible to move it on 24 hours notice, but it seems like it's hard.

I'm not saying it would be easy but they may well have had a plan in place for the unexpected. I'm sure they must have considered that at some point the site could be subject to attack and it might become necessary to move the uranium.

Although more likely than not damage was done

I would agree on that although finding out the extent will depend on how cooperative Iran will be.

PF has become a little too intoxicating. Until next time, y'all take care.

Leaving so soon? How could you! Bobko and Torq will never forgive you.
Novichok  7 | 9836
25 Jun 2025   #799
If Israel and the US can hit Iran preemptively (Bravo!), Russia can invade Ukraine preemptively (Good job, guys)

Not that Russia needed anyone's permission...Just saying...
Alien  28 | 7115
26 Jun 2025   #800
invade Ukraine preemptively (Good job, guys)

The concept of "good work" means something different than getting soaked in trenches for 3.5 years in the same place.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12240
26 Jun 2025   #801
Gossip alarm!!!!

After war against Israel: Top mullah disappeared! Power struggle in Iran

bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/machtkampf-in-teheran-chamenei-verschollen-685ce9143446cc6249ea5956

There is sudden concern about the dictator among regime supporters. The Islamists' "Supreme Leader," the anti-Semitic old man Ali Khamenei, has not been seen or heard from for many days. He has not commented on the US attack on the nuclear facilities or the ceasefire with Israel. Even on the X account, which is usually overflowing with delusional Islamist propaganda, no recent posts can be found. The last one is from Monday.....

Wild rumors of death, assassination, or even a secret coup are circulating. The absence of the Islamist dictator, who has oppressed his people for 36 years, is also noticeable in Iran. It raises the question: Who is currently in charge in Tehran?.....

......

According to the New York Times, a power struggle is already raging within the regime. "Politicians and military commanders are forging alliances and vying for power." The factions have "differing ideas about how Iran should proceed with its nuclear program, negotiations with the United States, and the conflict with Israel." The strongest faction is led by President Massoud Peseschkian, who is said to be among the less fanatical forces within the regime.

This is because Iran's strategy to destroy Israel has completely failed. The regime attempted to surround the Jewish state with terrorist armies and use ballistic missiles to prevent it from attacking its nuclear facilities. But Israel's army first defeated the terrorist allies and then turned its attention to Iran's nuclear program....

😎..."less fanatical" is always good!

Who knows....maybe the head of the snake is already long gone?

If that isn't a clear sign:

...The US news portal Axios revealed that US President Donald Trump and Turkish ruler Recep Tayyip Erdogan had failed to persuade Khamenei to negotiate a quick deal. The result: The US attacked three Iranian nuclear facilities. Shortly thereafter, things turned out quite differently: Negotiations for a ceasefire between Israel and Iran, brokered by the US and Qatar, were concluded within hours...

.....here the automatic translation isn't quite correct! Trump and Erdogan haven't failed Khamenai to persuade...they didn't reach him!!!! They never spoke to him....an important difference!
Torq  17 | 1624
26 Jun 2025   #802
Who knows....maybe the head of the snake is already long gone?

*fingers crossed*
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12240
26 Jun 2025   #803
He must have read my post!

First video message since the end of the war: Missing top mullah returns! He claims to have "crushed" Israel

bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/ober-mullah-meldet-sich-zuruecl-haben-israel-und-usa-besiegt-685d21163446cc6249ea5ead

To bad....🙄
Miloslaw  25 | 5567
26 Jun 2025   #804
That is quite a projection on your part

You do nothing but embarrass yourself with your stupid, uneducated posts.
gumishu  15 | 6352
26 Jun 2025   #805
Ground-penetrating radar

is there such a thing that goes deeper than a couple of meters
Ironside  51 | 13481
26 Jun 2025   #806
is there such a thing that goes deeper than a couple of meters

German paratrooper.
Alien  28 | 7115
27 Jun 2025   #807
Iran just declared victory over Israel and the US.....Easy going.
Novichok  7 | 9836
27 Jun 2025   #808
Iran's Foreign Minister has declared that US and Israeli airstrikes caused 'excessive and serious damage' to Tehran's nuclear facilities, contradicting statements by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei that Donald Trump was 'exaggerating' the attack's success.

That's not what Golden Moron is saying...Hmm...So who is lying? Some dumb Polak or Iran's FM whose life is not worth much anymore...

BTW, where are you, Golden Idiot...
Miloslaw  25 | 5567
27 Jun 2025   #809
Iran's Foreign Minister has declared that US and Israeli airstrikes caused 'excessive and serious damage'

BooHoo.....
Novichok  7 | 9836
27 Jun 2025   #810
You seem to like it...


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