The Iran war and Poland

It's the general psychology and sheep like trust of Germans towards leaders when war is being planned or waged.

Bratwurst is unquestion lingley swallowing Netanyahoos claims that Iran would have a bomb in two weeks and will bomb the West just like previous Germans swallowed Hitler's claims that Poland attacked Germany and Soviet Union would attack so let's attack them first.

Hes a typical German sheep.

?? Is English your first language?

@Lyzko
No it's Polish. What's your first language?

Yosef Mizrachi is an idiot who thinks there are over 6 billion idol worshippers in the world who deserve death penalty, but he noticed a disquieting thing...

youtube.com/shorts/6eew3Tp4Cpw

... does this mean that God is angry at Israel and might withdraw his protection from them? Interesting...

Religious maniacs and YouTube. What a combination.

... an absolutely brilliant combination. Living in Poland I would never have the opportunity to listen to the most extreme Orthodox rabbis or Muslim imams, and I might fall for all the ecumenical love, hand-holding, kumbaya-singing nonsense. Thanks to YouTube I am well informed and warned. :)

Extreme voices are best ignored.

Whether they've got a shtreimel or a soutane.

@amiga500,
Mine is/are English and German.
Thought I detected some degree of second-language interference in your
reply.
To be frank, Poles tend to remind me of dramaramas when replying to
a complex topic about which they desire to make a serious impression in a second language.

Your writing was not entirely comprehensible. No offense. It's
merely language transference from one thought process to another:-)

Well, perhaps I should have said "genuine" or "zealous", not "extreme".

Who do you think influences more Catholics in Poland, has more money and power: Rydzyk or Boniecki? In the same way I bet the likes of Mizrachi have a rather large following in Israel and diaspora. Same goes for Muslim imams--those who advocate love for the entire world and tolerance are rather in minority, aren't they? That's why people should use tools like YouTube to stay informed and vigilant.

Religious extremists never do. Anywhere.


That's where you'll find the worst of them all.

How many people would you say follow the teachings of an extremist? 1% of a given religion members? 5%? 20? Would you say Rydzyk is an extremist?


The worst or the best, depends how you look at it. :)

You really need to think about what will happen to the cause of Ukraine if America gets involved in a war with Iran.

Well, Iran will definitely have less weapons to aid Russia in their war effort.

Maria Zakharova, spokeswoman of the Russian Foreign Ministry, calls on the Israeli leadership to come to its senses and immediately stop attacks on nuclear installations.
"We are particularly concerned about the safety of the Bushehr nuclear power plant, which employs Russian specialists," Zakharova said.

Then you better get your specialists the F out of there as the King has given you plenty of warning.
Everyone is just waiting to see if King Taco is going to take out the main supporter of Terrorism and his uranium enrichment bunker to make the world a safer place.
Right now Iran has no air defense to stop the King and his 30,000 pound bunker buster bombs.
Ii don't think the Golden Cow would have sent our in air fueling tankers over there to refuel the B-2 Stealth Bombers if he wasn't going to do it.
My way of thinking is that Trump will do it any day now rather than later.
The Khamenei family needs to go and better sooner than later.

It will be a prolonged war. There will be many civilian casualties. There will be a moral equivalency between Russia and America. None of the activists will care about Ukraine anymore.

All the missiles being given to Ukraine will be needed for the Iran war.

The methods that Israel and USA will use that break the norms of war will be copied by Putin to little protest.

What do you mean here by "moral equivalency"? Yet one more example of
language transference from Polish to English. The words of course are clear
and you obviously know English, however I can't quite grasp your meaning.

And when you write, "break the norms of war", do you mean perhaps "set new standards
for warfare"?

I'm not trying to carp on your English, I simply wish to understand what you are saying, that's all!

Both America and Russia would be engaging in an aggressive 'unprovoked' war seeking to topple the current goverment.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

I thought Amigo is Australian.

The UK is preparing to provide support if Trump decides to bomb Iran, despite a last-ditch diplomatic push to persuade the United States against military action,


I disagree with that as once the Khamenei family is dethroned, the Iranian's will vote in civilized people and go on their way.
Iran has a lot to offer the world once they are set free.

True. Was the guy in the mugshot the worst serial killer because he screwdrivered 100 women or the best because he was so successful at it?

I always perceived you as Brooklyn raised Jewish.

BILD has new infos from Amos Yadlin?


archive.ph/mXZev#selection-2177.0-2185.52

According to US media, US President Donald Trump (78) has released his military's attack plans against the mullah regime in Iran and its military. All that's missing is the order to attack, according to the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.
The question, however, is how deeply the US will engage alongside Israel in the fight against Iran.

Amos Yadlin (73), a former general in the Israeli Air Force and former head of military intelligence, outlines two possible options in BILD.

Scenario 1: Trump attacks Fordow nuclear facility in isolation

▶︎ The first is an isolated, targeted attack on the underground Fordow nuclear facility. According to Yadlin, this would massively set back the Iranian nuclear program and send a clear signal to the regime in Tehran.
.....
However, Iran would likely retaliate against US bases in the Gulf, which is why Yadlin considers a second option more likely.

Scenario 2: Comprehensive US military strike

▶︎ According to Yadlin, who flew the attack on the Iraqi nuclear reactor in Osirak as a fighter pilot in 1981, this second option would involve a more comprehensive military strike. This could prevent a possible Iranian retaliation for the attack on Fordow in advance.
According to Yadlin, this would also require targeting Iranian missile sites that could threaten US targets in the Persian Gulf, as well as forces preparing to blockade the Strait of Hormuz.

"A broader US attack as a means of anticipating Iranian retaliation would also target missiles threatening US interests in the Gulf, as well as Iranian forces potentially seeking to block the Strait of Hormuz," he explains.
It is unclear whether Donald Trump will give the green light for the operation. The reason: Unlike Israel, which is located about 1,000 kilometers from Iran, Iran could retaliate massively against US bases in the region, some of which are only 100 kilometers from Iranian territory.

I agree, all that progressive nonsense, feminist propaganda, and LGBT ideology need to be ignored.
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There is nothing wrong with religious zeal.
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It is funny, I have always perceived him as a retard.

That which you ray to dis is is simply normal life, and is also unrelated to the current conflict.


Tell that to the people swinging from ropes in Iran.

Exactly. Time to sing the f*cking bumper sticker song again...



youtube.com/watch?v=YgJJoYCBkvM&list=RDYgJJoYCBkvM&start_radio=1

... ehhh, kurwa... życie.

It's possible to empathise with people who suffer at the hands of all three appalling governments involved in this.

What do you think of the suggested plan to federalise or split Iran? Israel likes it however there are a couple of fatal flaws.

Well, Persians never acknowledged the partitions and, especially in intellectual or literary circles, expressed sympathy for Poland, seeing Poles as fellow victims of Russian imperialism. Later, during WW2, they accepted and took good care of tens of thousands of our refugees, so it would be inappropriate for me to support splitting Iran. Countries can't have the memory span of a goldfish, can they? We should just get rid of the evil regime (like in another country a bit further up north) and make peace with all the lovely Iranian (Russian) people.

Two regime changes for me, please, and balance will be restored in the Universe.

Remember that the splitting of Iran that some suggest isn't splitting Persians.

Arabistan in the south may as well be separate anyway. The risk is that states in the north may be susceptible to orc influence.

Plus of course Iraq and Arabistan would want to be together and neighbouring ethnostate countries in the north would want to annexe the parts nearest to them. There are pluses and minuses in that. The Persians would of course still have Persia. They would not however have much oil.


Putler will cling on for dear life.

@Jon,

...you know more about them than me....is there a mood for partitions in Iran? I never heard of anything like it....

Definitely not among the Persians however politicians in Israel have mentioned federalising Iran.

If Iran get's partitioned, it would very soon turn in to "It was all about Oil" If the Persians ain't getting the Oil... Who is? This whole business smells of bad ideas and worse consequences