Poland goes bankrupt?

There's an election coming soon, why don't they do something about it?

Sorry, but every single Solidarity-backed government has been a failure, except the first one - and even that fell apart very quickly.

Quite frankly, the people of Poland only have themselves to blame for wanting low taxes and high social care.

So what do you think is going to happen?

Do you vote here Delphy?

Interesting thread.

What does 'going bankrupt' mean exactly for a country? None of the P.I.I.G.S has gone bankrupt so far ...

It's very hard to say. Almost certainly, PO will win the election and PiS will lose. Apart from that, it's impossible to tell - it depends what the PJN and Palikot parties do. Either way, I don't think PO will have a clear mandate (45%+) to govern, though they should be able to form some sort of workable coalition. It's worth pointing out that at the minute, the government only has a majority of 10.

Either way, I don't think PO will lose power, but I don't think they'll have such a strong grip on it, either.


Yep, in the elections that I can. Spoiled my vote in the 2nd round of the Poznan Presidential election, too ;)

All likelihood is that neither Palikot nor PJN count in the game irrecpective of whether they choose to do anything or not. It is clear for everyone who observes the political scene in Poland that Palikot is nothing more than a showman who naively thought he might form a new quality in politics, while Kluzik-Rostkowska and her PJN have just been slowly sliding into the political black hole since the very creation of their movement ...

In the next 20 years, Chinese GDP will cross that of USA ...

China ... the next Super Power? ... I wonder ...

In anyways, I would like the Poles to always have better relations with the Chinese. They are quite a clever nation ...

Hardly surprising considering the population of China is nearly 4 times that of the USA. Despite being such a large economy, people in the BRIC countries will still be dirt poor as compared to the west. A large economy has little to do with Per capita income or living standards, both of which will be better in the west for atleast another 60 years. To top it all, the system in China will need to undergo change or we'll see something like a solidarity movement but way more bloodier considering how vast and diverse China is. China's future, though bright, is rocky as well. Something which people forget these days considering everybody is buusy bashing the West.


That would be nice.

Because is easer to congregate for a bad purpose than for good:)


Solidarity or not there was always strong element of ex-commie security forces plus party members and their lackeys in key position - it is simple enough to grasp!


Really? As if all taxes were spend on social care ? What a pile of rubbish !

Well - one thing you have to bear in mind is that Palikot's movement does have quite a lot of appeal in Poland from the liberals who voted for PO because there was no-one else - indeed, in terms of students, they've got quite a lot of support. Palikot is also enough of a showman to ensure that people keep talking about him. Looking at what he's been doing, there's certainly enough support there to take 5-7% of the vote. Likewise with the PJN lot - though I reckon *if* they do enough to get into the Sejm, then they'll come back into the PiS fold in exchange for Kaczynski's head (after another defeat).

I'd say it's far too early to speculate on just how the new factions will do in the elections.


And you're trying to tell me that these people purposefully hurt Poland? It's that kind of paranoid attitude that holds Poland back.


They certainly don't want to pay the extra 10% or so that Poland needs to pay for all these social welfare schemes.

What are you implying? Taxes pay for everything government does, they should looking for cuts in spendings, not to blame social care for they thieving!


I'm saying that those people don't give a **** about Poland, Poles or the like, they look just for their own gain. They are totally immoral and devoid of social or national bonds !

As for being paranoid, that BS, I say how it is in reality, otherwise they overt influence should be beneficial for Poland. We can observe that is disastrous in every way!

Not the point. It doesn't matter how advanced the Chinese are. The Point is Poland needs jobs. It doesn't take a genius to build roads and bridges.

Annnnd...if Poland wants economic development they need infrastructure. Economic development is not just about cheap labor.

What is Poland?

Poland is a sovereign state. The above answers are, "if I were King".

Geez, welcome to the club, it seems today every modern nation on the planet are bankrupt. Why is that?

The only people who are not bankrupt are tribes that are still living in the stone age. They are lucky, they haven't had the rothchilds, rockefellars, clintons, bushes, obamas, Mubaraks and all other corrupt dictators to ruin their society.

There are two threads one above the other:

"Poland could emerge as new European and world power.
"Poland is going bankrupt"

Which one is true? Maybe both?

"I hadn't known there were so many idiots in the world until I started using the Internet"

Stanisław Lem

They(stone-age tribes) probably have more 'disposable income' than the average Polish worker.

They just have to worry about getting killed by the neighboring tribe.

It's like the fellow who moved to the wilds of Alaska to live off the land..."gotta get that moose".

China not.

Bankruptcy is no big deal, you just rearrange your debts. And as for China, they have bigger economic problems than you think.

oh yeah, much bigger. I was trying to explain it to everyone here but not too many people seem to listen because it's not about our American problems.