Was Charlie Kirk popular in Poland?

...an old Soviet joke...


Free speech is that you don't end up in prison, not in an unemployment office.

A job is a privilege and a contract, not a right.

As always, stupid like a brick...

@Ironside
As you describe the truth of free speech, most dont understand consequences.

@cms neuf
Fantastic you work for yourself. Now, name your company and address of it and we will secure a boycott for you. Simple example of words spoken getting a reaction possibly not intended by your free speech. There is a cost to free speech, and it should never be someones life.

Maybe if you are Junior Vice President for Street Drainage Maintenance at the Illinois Dept of Works. yes Mr Smith, Thank you Mr Smith


Right, because in my incredibly obscure branch of work the few customers have enough choice that they can take offense on behalf of a little known podcaster from a different country

Sober up.

If you work in medicine and publicly announce your intention to not treat (or to harm) potential patients based on their politics... then you should be fired.

Absolutely no idea what you are on about.

This is Poland, as well as having free speech we also have socialized medicine. Turn up injured at the hospital and you will be treated like everybody else, doesn't matter if you are a Nazi or a Hari Krishna.

Care to post your name? You seem very interested in suppressing any free speech about your past on any of the platforms where you fish for new clients, even when every statement made is 100% true and verifiable.

In 2019, I did just that and was told I had to pay up front, in zloty, no credit cards or travel insurance. I had two, with 800 numbers. Still a no...

Fvck Poland. I was on the way home to Chicago the next day ...after a three-day stay and a $500 fee for rescheduling my departure...

Never again...

I found this to be unreasonable and I would argue that it is divisive but I guess that depends on your view of abortion.

x.com/snopes/status/1968465095828160630


You keep banging on about this but not a single person on this forum has rejoiced or celebrated his death. You, however, have no problem in wishing ill will towards PF members:


I think you need anger management classes to be honest.

@jon,
As Bertolt Brecht, best known virulently anti-Nazi playwright,
said (roughly translated):

A country in need of heroes
Is indeed a country in need

We've had posters here say basically the same thing....

It's a position that I wildly disagree with but it's in line with a lot of paleo-conservatives.

Try again.

And that makes it "reasonable" how?? Try again. 🤨

That statement alone would make me wish him to drop dead. No, I wouldn't kill him and wouldn't call for killing him, but forgive me if I'm not shedding any tears. 🥲 The less messed up people like him on this planet the better - that's my honest opinion and I won't change it.


First and foremost that creep didn't deserve to be a father. 🤮


No, that depends on whether you're a normal human being with empathy or not.

And of course, over there, they're following Brecht's other recommendation. Since the people don't like their govrnment, their government is changing the people.

So much drama over the passing of someone who after all was only a youth youtuber.

Context.... helpfully left out by Feniks

"If cesarean section is not going to save the mother's life, and the mother's life is actually at risk, which is debated amongst growing numbers of OB-GYNs, that is the only case where abortion should be allowed. But, it is a growing consensus in the pro-life world that abortion is never medically necessary."

So the assumption is that the baby could be delivered without harming the mother.

Again, a common view among anti-abortion rights people.

@mafketis, what "context" did Feniks leave out? What you quoted was said by Kirk or what?


Are we still talking here about a 10-year-old???


First and foremost a 10-year-old child shouldn't be forced to be a "mother" and be subjected to pregnancy and delivering a child (cesarean section is a serious surgery) and ANY risk connected to pregnancy and giving birth, especially that there is no other way for a 10-year-old to get pregnant than due to rape.

🤮


Then a lot of "anti-abortion rights people" are sick f*cks. What's your point again?

The pro-life world is dangerously retarded then. It's scary that people who are this stupid (or ignorant?) are allowed to vote. 😳

Yes, I stupidly forgot to put in the quotation marks... oh no! Actually I did include the quotation marks which you ignored.

whole thing is here:

snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-10-year-old-rape/

a hypothetical in which the pregnancy could be delivered with no harm to the mother.

It's a position I disagree with but 'divisive' only to those unable to tolerate different points of view.

I won't answer anything until you've had a chance to see the broader context.

I didn't ignore the quotation marks, I asked you if that quote was by Kirk.


Nazis had "different" views too. I'm afraid I'm not able to "tolerate" or stomach their views either. They can kindly go f*ck themselves.


I've read the whole thing from your link and I don't understand why you think the context helps Kirk in any way. I stand by my previous opinion that empathy-deprived sociopaths like this who don't love their kids don't deserve to have daughters (and I'd rather they didn't procreate at all). My guess is also that his daughter will be better off without him in the long run.

Cause you're too lazy to do the work...


First person to bring up nazis in an argument loses. So.... you lose.


That's cold... you might wanna walk that one back.... would you tell her that to her face? If not, then don't write it here.

Sorry but I don't believe there is a chance of a pregnancy in 10yo not carrying a risk.

That view is scary. I think a lot of men how big a thing pregnancy and birth is. No 10yo should be forced to do it.

I didn't hear about the man before he was killed . I didn't do any research on him after either so I can't discuss his general views but the 10 yo situation puts me firmly on the opposite side.

While I would not wish what happened on him my companion did go down after I saw interview with him where he said he accepts certain deaths as a price for gun possession.

Why are you attacking me, maf? Because I don't like what Kirk said? I did google the whole fragment, but it didn't come up in my google search. I always google first.


Don't be childish. The fact that views are "different" doesn't mean they aren't evil, inhumane or sick and that they should be tolerated. There are people holding views that it should be legal for adults to f*ck 5-year-olds. There are men supporting marrying 9-year-olds, because a "holy book" says it's OK.


No, of course I wouldn't tell a kid who just lost her father that she will be better off without her father. That's because I have... you know... empathy. I am saying it to you on an internet forum - that this is my guess.


No, that's pretty realistic, unfortunately, and coming from my personal experience.

there's not much chance of a 10 year old getting pregnant either unless it's a case of precocious puberty.... pregnancy is impossible before a girl starts ovulating.

that's why the whole thing was hypothetical and not a real case (and he did allow for pregnancy in cases when safe delivery is impossible).

So the quote was massaged out of context.... that's what's divisive.

And from this link - this is what Kirk said:

"What makes the West great is that we do good after evil, not evil after evil."

This is coming from a man who thought that executions should be public, televised and that kids should watch it as a form of "initiation."


No, it wasn't. Kirk was asked about a scenario if this happened to his own daughter and he answered directly to that question.


But it does happen. And Kirk would force this upon her own daughter. That's enough for me to know anything I need to know about him as a human being.

10 yo is not a precocious.

@Paulina
And let us hope you are not a mother.

A child has its very own DNA, and while in the mothers body, it is its own being. At 10 weeks it is no longer an embryo. After that its murder. But of course, pro choice people never mention that these babies, as independent beings, have rights as well.

Charlie Kirk said the difference between the left and right is the difference between evil and good. Its only the left that condones violence and destruction of cities when they dont get their way. The left is simply the retardation of society. The left want mass migration, and who are they letting in? Murderers and rapists. Because they dont care about other people children when they are too busy killing their own as a form of birth control.

Guess what- that 10yo has her own DNA too.


I guess it wasn't Trump supporters in the Capitol after he lost elections?

That's because those of us who don't support Trump are good people. I mean, Horst Wessel was a fairly unpleasant creature but I wouldn't have rejoiced or celebrated his death.


I would, but she's two years old and doesn't even understand who her daddy is. Look at it this way: now she has a chance to grow up saying "daddy" to somebody who isn't a complete douchebag but she still gets the benefit of the money the douchebag made from humilitating teenagers.

And I feel for your daughter if you have one.

I care more about children who are already alive and sentient.


I don't care, because it's a rapist's DNA in the body of my 10-year-old daughter, you sick f*ck. My own 10-year-old daughter would be more important to me than a cluster of cells made by a rapist. Any normal parent would feel the same way the way I do - and the polls in my country reflect that.


I'm not "left" and we're not talking about destroying cities or mass immigration (which I don't support anyway), but about forcing your 10-year-old child to carry on with pregnancy and deliver a baby.

@Paulina
Three daughters, all of them beautiful, happy and healthy. All of who want to spend time with me. Your 10 yr old daughter, and I hope its not actually true, is a different case all together. Abortion from rape or incest is completely different in my opinion. Now if your daughter is 18, and using it as a form of birth control, then she should have learned how to swallow, or simply not be having sex. And if you made up the ten year old daughter to make an example, you're the sick fvck.

You are a true lefty. The left destroy what the right builds. Cities, families, communities, churches, and traditions. The left would burn it all down.

My God, are you dumb or something?
It's a hypothetical scenario that we're discussing because of what Charlie Kirk said. Are you paying any attention at all to what we've been writing here??


Meaning? What are your views exactly?


No, I am not. Not that I think there's anything wrong in having left-wing views, it's just those are not mine. And, btw, my impression is that in some aspects left-wingers are often actually more Christian than right-wingers.