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Britain - problem for Poland and Poles?


Zlatko
10 Jun 2020 #61
Poland should stop being America's puppy and allign itself to Scandinavia and the Baltics. In a serious conflict with Russia (pray not) Americans will turn a blind eye and will throw Polska under the bus... again as America didn't help much during WW2, it cared more about France and the UK. It handed Central and Eastern Europe to the Russians. Also, Poles must try to attract Scandinavian companies, not only German-owned. Sure Germany is next door, but Scandinavia ain't that far either.

A Balto-Scandinavian union makes sense. Too bad all current, past or prospective "world police" states are from bad to worse - USA, Russia, China. I guess big empires always abuse their influence.

Also be very wary of Germany realigning itself with Russia... once again.
OP Crow 157 | 9,068
10 Jun 2020 #62
In a serious conflict with Russia

Its absolutely against Serbian interest and it won`t come to that. I guarantee that to you.
Zlatko
10 Jun 2020 #63
^oh I was talking about Poland. It's not as if Serbia will protect Poland from Russia or can do it.
OP Crow 157 | 9,068
10 Jun 2020 #64
Talk talk. And don`t here spread negative emotions. We Serbs have our projects. It was easy to Germany and Vatican to manipulate and at the same time trade with Russia when Serbia was very weak or out from the map of Europe. Now is different. Russians consult with Serbs about crucial projects on Balkan-Baltic line. Its very important internal thing in Russia. Even Hungary is involved in our mutual projects.

And don`t worry. Russians knows who killed millions and millions of them. They would never forget and they have memory like elephants. German state is a criminal killing machine.
Sylvio 19 | 155
12 Jun 2020 #65
Poles are targeted for only one reason: because they are Catholic. Having arrived in UK many decades ago as a young lad, I was able to master the language to an unrecignizable level. My names also, as it happens could slip under radar. So, I can present here my unique perspective. Which is that so long as my Polish identity remained hidden I invariably received a better treatment everywhere! This especially as a contractor in getting hired to good professional, well paid posts. This was before internet profiling which now gives recruiters deep insight into your past from name /birthdate straight away. When I moved to north america it lead to scores of very funny ( or not) situations, where having presented myself as a British subject I would get offered some glamorous propositions of jobs, relocation packages, green cards, for whole family, on the company bill, only to watch the same person who made them, a day or two later, suddenly lying their arse off to explain why the offer was no longer "available" , "put on hold", off due to sudden budget cuts etc. It became so predictable that, to save time, I began asking agents ahead of time to check if their "great" offer would stay up if I were a Polish national, which in all cases meant that they would never (!) call me again, thereafter.
jon357 74 | 22,347
12 Jun 2020 #66
lad, I was able to master the language to an unrecignizable level. My names also

That suggests otherwise.

This thread suggests the issues are not as you present them in the post above: polishforums.com/off-topic/antiterrorist-laws-acatholic-engineer-85550

Anyway, you're posting about your problems in a different country,rather than anything in Britain.
Sylvio 19 | 155
13 Jun 2020 #67
Ok About UK. In my opinion NONE of the so called attacks against Poles in UK. are randam, or by random people. They are all preordained and organized by UK's funny handshake lords. Is that come out loser to the topic?
Miloslaw 19 | 5,075
13 Jun 2020 #68
I was able to master the language to an unrecignizable level

NONE of the so called attacks against Poles in UK. are randam

Your two comments above show that you have not mastered English to a decent level and suggest that either you have not been in the UK for very long or have never been there.

and organized by UK's funny handshake lords

And your above post shows not only that you have absolutely no understanding of British society but that you are probably a troll.

The attacks on Poles by Brits are as infrequent as attacks by Poles on Brits in Poland, given the difference in population and numbers of immigrants.

As the son of two Poles, born in England I can honestly say that I have NEVER experienced ANY racism, hostility and certainly no violence against me.

With a name like Sylvio are you even Polish?

You are a liar and a troll
OP Crow 157 | 9,068
13 Jun 2020 #69
Poles are targeted for only one reason: because they are Catholic.

No. They despise you as you are Slavic. That first. Then they add to it whatever suitable.

Such a stance is in their culture. They have word `slovenly`. It means `untidy` and `dirty`, 2. `messy` and `dirty`, 3. `messy`, `dirty`, or `not careful`. They see you are Slavic and they say to themselves `Sylvio is slovenly`.

You should know that Hitler admired to Anglos how they dealt with native Americans. Oh, slavery and racism in US was a great inspiration to Hitler. There origin his thinking of higher race. And don`t think Anglos were against Hitler. No, not their magnates, those who financed Hitler and Musolini.

You are a liar and a troll

Will you please stop ruining this forum with constant cutting off peoples opinion, darling.
Sylvio 19 | 155
14 Jun 2020 #70
The first thing that struck me about this particular forum is in the coarseness of expressed opinions. We Poles are impulsive, and disrespectful of the other, alien to all charity. Our comments rarely show any depth, ingenuity, or are remotely funny. Now that I live in Poland, every day my money papers over the holes in Poland's commercial ethos, being accused of lying or fraud in shops, refused refund, whenever I return any of the substandard products sold here to the store. Never a word of appology. On driving in Poland I won't pontificate. We are savages, my friends. Let's make no bones about it. A character established through occupations and foreign subjugation. Contrary to what you say, I do not lie or steal. Nor mascarade as smone else on line. Sylvio is a nick. As it happens a British citizen of 28 years, having worked for 12 big UK corporations, I left England in early 2007, to move to US/Canada, prior to the big influx of our countrymen to the islands. So, speaking of me, try not to think of yourselves.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,075
14 Jun 2020 #71
Your post is insulting to Poles and shows that you are probably a russian troll or bot that needs to be ignored.
FO troll.
Zlatko
14 Jun 2020 #72
Yes Polish service sucks. It's not on UK or Scandinavian level. But if you want real savages and bad drivers go to Greece. Also their language sounds terrible. And the people are fake nice (they love lying and deceiving people).
dolnoslask 5 | 2,918
14 Jun 2020 #73
Yes Polish service sucks.

I agree
Ironside 52 | 12,520
14 Jun 2020 #74
The first thing

Whatever and whoever you are there is no hiding you are a real ass wipe in more than one sense.. Other that that continue with your pathetic BS. Who cares lol!
dolnoslask 5 | 2,918
14 Jun 2020 #75
Whatever and whoever you are there is no hiding

Hey as far as I am concerned the more people they put off living in Poland the better , Poland is fantastic warts and all , we need to tell the plebs not to come here , there is no free ride, investors with cash are more than welcome (of course)
Ironside 52 | 12,520
14 Jun 2020 #76
Hey as far as I am concerned the more people they put off living in Poland the better

yeah whatever, Ukrainians don't look for websites in English to look for work in Poland. Just saying. Sylvio has been hovering around PF for a good while. Time to step up his game, why would he rand and troll here scot free. Any-ho, have I said something that is not true?
dolnoslask 5 | 2,918
14 Jun 2020 #77
Any-ho, have I said something that is not true?

You never have mate, Ukraine twats sent my mum and dad to siberia, then they sided with the SS and licked banderases balls , but still i prefer ukraine migrants in Poland compared with UK lefty loser twats , Just my opinion.
Joker 3 | 2,375
15 Jun 2020 #78
UK lefty loser twats , Just my opinion.

These LBH expats bring all their lefty political problems with them to Poland. Its like a lefty scourge that comes for low paying jobs while trying to promote their sick values upon the Polish society.
OP Crow 157 | 9,068
15 Jun 2020 #79
Any-ho, have I said something that is not true?

I remember you said you are Catholic first and Slavic secund. And I am sure you yourself don't believe that. But you said it. Because it was convenient to say. Probably because you think its lesser evil to be Catholic then being Slavic in Anglo world. Man, they subjugated you.
Ironside 52 | 12,520
15 Jun 2020 #80
remember you said you are Catholic first and Slavic secund.

Listen you crazy person, such distinction are silly. . Very few in Poland feel actually or think Slavic. Most don't gives a f- **** about it. IF they do it is in the context of similar sounding languages.

Poland due to it history has been a hefty mix from Germans and Scots and Dutch to Armenians and Jews and who the hell knows what else.

I personally don't know anything about being Slavic and what not. I'm Polish and Catholics and that is all.
By the way who the hell is thinking like that? Germanic, Asians ? I don't know so I ask.
I think all that Slavic thing came from 19th century political idea created by Russia to justify their imperial aspirations and taste for more conquest. They found it a useful tool to extend their political influence. what may work for Serbia it doesn't work for Poland. So stop that BS of yours are you a fool or an actual troll?
OP Crow 157 | 9,068
15 Jun 2020 #81
Poles and Serbs had contacts over Slavdom, even at a time when God still didn't had plans to make Russia powerfull state. So, lets not involve Russia in your personal failure.

But you are lucky one. Anglo world cramble and you may find that by being Slavic you have certain advantages. Especialy when Vatican betray you once again and offer more globalization. See, same that Vatican did for Catholic Serbs. Instead to serve them, Vatican used them. Not to say what Vatican done to Orthodox Serbs. Same what Patriarchs from Constantinople. They are all the same. Only Slavdom means life in freedom. Russians are about yet to learn that and wont bs about being 3rd Rome. You Poles will also learn. Disguisting not to know who you are and what is foreign thing.

Poland have elections on a day dedicated to Svetovid, 28th Jun. May spirit of ancestors guide Polish choices.
Sylvio 19 | 155
15 Jun 2020 #82
By the way, I'm asked to be an usher at a polling station! Uu -hooo!! So much for being..what was it? A Belorusian troll. Ha ha..
peterweg 37 | 2,311
15 Jun 2020 #83
No. They despise you as you are Slavic.

The British don't even know what Slavs are. I cannot remember anyone even uttering the word.
OP Crow 157 | 9,068
15 Jun 2020 #84
Good then, there are normal Brits, as I like to say. Let us reset our relationship and finaly coexist as friends. We are all aware EU, Rome and third Reich are source of problems in Europe.
Joker 3 | 2,375
15 Jun 2020 #85
. I cannot remember anyone even uttering the word.

Same here. Ive never heard anything about Slavs until this nutter started spamming the forum about it. It gets quite old and annoying, actually.

So stop that BS of yours are you a fool or an actual troll?

How about both?

I tried to read his incoherent response, but its just a load of gibberish as usual.
pawian 224 | 24,695
25 Dec 2023 #86
An extensive interview with a Polish expert on British housing market which has gone to the dogs and is draining the assets of both the state and lodgers.

onet.pl/informacje/krowoderskapl/wielka-brytania-doprowadzila-do-katastrofy-mieszkaniowej-idziemy-jej-sladem/fkxxp9y,30bc1058

Main points:

In Great Britain, until the end of the 1970s, municipal construction dominated. This changed at the beginning of the government of Margaret Thatcher, who distributed municipal housing and changed the housing model to one similar to the one in Poland today.

It is based on rent from private owners and huge amounts of money allocated for rent subsidies or, for example, own contribution. A situation has arisen in which - says Dr. Marcin Galent from the Jagiellonian University - you can earn more by not building apartments than by building them.

Today, apartments in Great Britain are the smallest and most expensive among Western European countries
Housing expenses account for approximately 40 percent. family income. Back in the 1970s it was 20-25 percent. It was cheaper not only to rent, but also to buy your own house or apartment

Dr. Marcin Galent from the Jagiellonian University says: The British model of the housing market has led to a disaster. Ours is very similar.

A part of the interview:

If you haven't lived in the UK, it may be hard to believe, because we don't associate Great Britain with a place where life is bad or poor. More like a rich country where you go to earn better money.

I lived in Great Britain for three years. In different places. Usually those that are considered "the better ones". In Notting Hill, London, Cambridge, Oxford. These are islands of luxury, and yet when I saw the housing standards there, I was shocked. For various reasons, because, for example, I was used to having two panes of glass in the window and a radiator. And in England this is not obvious. The apartments are often in a dilapidated condition. And that's one thing. But the second thing is that it's getting worse. The standard is falling. The premises are getting smaller. The apartments decreased by 1/5 in a short time. The new ones feel like a dollhouse. If I have a staircase in Krakow, two people can pass each other on the stairs. In a new building in the UK this can be difficult. The apartments are miniature, but they are also crowded and overcrowded. It is standard that singles who cannot afford to buy anything of their own live in apartments intended for families. Within a decade, by 50 percent. The number of twenty-year-olds who do not have their own home has increased. Back in the 1980s, the average age of a new apartment buyer was 26, now it is 32. University graduates who start working often cannot even afford to rent an apartment, so it is common for their parents to subsidize their housing expenses. The scale is such that it has a name - it is called "Mommy's Bank", and young people are referred to as the "Rental Generation".

pawian 224 | 24,695
24 Feb 2024 #87
Not much of one

So the reports and polls suggesting many Brits regret their previous support for brexit and would vote differently today are false??? :)::):)

Three years after ditching the European Union under the Brexit campaign, a clear majority of the British people now regret the decision. A new poll by the Opinium agency has found that most of the people in the UK now blame Brexit for swelling inflation, the government's inability to crack down on illegal immigration and the worsening health sector.
jon357 74 | 22,347
24 Feb 2024 #88
reports and polls

Tend to be in London which voted against and among the young who voted against. That and a general resentment of anything associated with the outgoing right wing government who made certain promises they never intended to keep. Think of it as classic buyer's regret and a disenchantment with one party who promised a Blakean "sunlit uplands" that capitalism cannot deliver and who keep banging on about immigration while it only increases.

Remember, the vote was actually a fairly even split, however nobody (even myself who voted against it) can say that anything has worsened.

Your stuff about the south east England housing market describes a situation that emerged long before the Brexit vote and which is unrecognisable to most of the country who aren't affected by it.

Wait until after this year's election; many interesting things will happen.

And above all, never try to understand or analyse anything that happens on the islands; that never ever works.
Alien 21 | 5,241
25 Feb 2024 #89
And above all, never try to understand or analyse anything that happens on the islands; that never ever works.

This is their problem, the most important thing is that they have not forgotten that they are Europeans and that they support Ukraine.
Novichok 4 | 8,424
25 Feb 2024 #90
that they support Ukraine.

...and the war, the deaths, and the destruction that come with it - all to make a buck or to feel good for a while

That makes them war criminals.


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