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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25


Ironside  53 | 13725
27 Sep 2025   #391
The troops are waiting for the order.

And then you woke up. Don't forget to take your meds.
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #392
@Ironside

Tomorrow it will become your reality. It's good that you're relaxed and think that Russia is weak))).
Ironside  53 | 13725
27 Sep 2025   #393
It's good that you're relaxed and think that Russia is weak))).

Russia has revealed its own weaknesses. The demonstrations on the border, provocations, and drone activities are a testament to the fact that Russia is unable to conduct any serious military operations, as its forces are tied up in Ukraine. Thank you!
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #394
Ironside
Russia has revealed its own weaknesses.

That's not true. This is a provocation orchestrated by Ukraine because its front is cracking and sagging, and there's nothing to plug the holes with. It has lost the war of attrition. And Ukraine is trying to drag Poland into an open conflict. There's no point in Russia sending drones without explosives and bombs. Why? Poland's air defenses are nonexistent; that's a well-known fact.
Torq  21 | 1844
27 Sep 2025   #395
Poland's air defenses are nonexistent

Hey, that's not true - and it's from an AA defense reservist. :)

Does Russia really think we are so retarded as to turn on all the systems for a twenty or so lousy drones, so that you can detect them and be better prepared in the coming conflict?

Send something real and you will see if our AA defense is no existent.

Oh, and welcome to PF.
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #396
Hey, that's not true - and it's from an AA defense reservist

Poland does not have systems that can effectively shoot down drones.

First, all communications in Poland will be lost, then arsenals and military units will explode from hypersonic missiles, and the rest will be swept away by a wave of drones. Every Russian soldier participating in the Polish campaign will receive a plot of Polish land and two Polish slaves.)))
Torq  21 | 1844
27 Sep 2025   #397
Poland does not have

Less talking, more action. Send something real and you will see.

Every Russian soldier participating in the Polish campaign will receive a plot of Polish land

This is actually true. But it won't be a very large plot, and it will be located 2 metres underground. :)
Velund  1 | 518
27 Sep 2025   #398
Send something real and you will see if our AA defense is no existent.

BTW, there is elevated chances, that Article V will be "field tested" sooner that anyone here think...

Maria Zakharova said, citing Hungarian media, that Kyiv is preparing a large-scale operation "under a false flag" in Romania and Poland. Kyiv's goal is to create a casus belli (pretext for war) between Russia and NATO.

▪️Ukraine intends to send refurbished Russian Geran UAVs under the guise of large NATO transport hubs in Poland and Romania, blame Moscow for everything, and provoke an armed conflict.

"Bankova is preparing its own 'Gleiwitz incident'* with the aim of creating a casus belli for war between Russia and NATO," Maria Zakharova wrote.

▪️Geran drones, previously repaired at the LORTA plant in Lviv, have already been delivered to the Yavoriv training ground for the provocation. Zakharova stressed that these actions are caused by the crushing defeats of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which "are becoming strategic in nature."

If this information is confirmed, then "never in modern history has Europe been so close to the start of World War III," she stressed.

Torq  21 | 1844
27 Sep 2025   #399
Kyiv is preparing a large-scale operation "under a false flag" in Romania and Poland

We won't fall for anything that obvious.

The problem is Russia might actually test Article 5 for real themselves. I'd say it's rather inevitable with the orange-skinned Epstein's friend in charge of the US.

Oh, well... pazhiviom, uvidim as ancient Romans used to say.
Korvinus  8 | 769
27 Sep 2025   #400
BTW, there is elevated chances, that Article V will be "field tested" sooner that anyone here think...

Day one: dominant military and air superiority. It's over as soon as they airdrop into Kyiv.

.. reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/tkjxkl/ukraine_retakes_key_part_of_kyiv_as_russian/
.

Day one thousand two hundred ninety one: Russia lost some drones which accidentally flew into NATO territory, but before that Belarus - the only Russian ally - warned Poland that Russians are inept, lost them, and they are flying towards Poland so they could be easily shot down. It's almost over for Ukraine and NATO.
cms neuf  1 | 2185
27 Sep 2025   #401
themoscowtimes.com/2025/09/26/rt-chief-simonyans-husband-dies-at-59-after-months-in-coma-a90637

Since Ukraine has already lost the war it's a shame this POS won't get to watch the victory parade in North Lagos
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #402
BTW, there is elevated chances, that Article V will be "field tested" sooner that anyone here think...

What if even Russia violates this article? Say, in the Baltics... But nothing will happen; there's no force in Europe that can even remotely oppose us. Everyone will **** their pants and pretend nothing happened.
Torq  21 | 1844
27 Sep 2025   #403
Everyone will **** their pants and pretend nothing happened.

You really like talking a lot, don't you?

Move into the Baltics and you will see what happens. :)
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #404
Sew white flags and learn the Russian phrase: "We surrender unconditionally."
cms neuf  1 | 2185
27 Sep 2025   #405
No sense to learn the word surrender in North Nigerian, given your long history of murdering prisoners
Torq  21 | 1844
27 Sep 2025   #406
@cms

Relax.

Looks like our Russian friend and neighbour is here on a mission to scare us. Good luck to him. :)
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #407
Looks like our Russian friend and neighbour is here on a mission to scare us. Good luck to him. :)

In fact, we in Russia couldn't care less about Europe, including Poland. What makes you think we need you? Why? What can you give us? Food and factory output-you've already lost them. Resources? You don't have them. Think about it: why do we need you if we've turned east and are doing business there?

What's happening in Ukraine is solely the fault of the Ukrainian government. Russia intervened only to protect Russians and Russian-speaking people, who were simply being killed.
Tell me, friend, imagine a situation where Germans in Germany started persecuting Poles and killing them simply because they spoke Polish, even those Poles who were born in Germany and had never been to Poland. Wouldn't Poland have sent troops to protect its people?
Russia was left with no choice.
Velund  1 | 518
27 Sep 2025   #408
We won't fall for anything that obvious.

Judging by how enthusiastically you reacted to the stories about Skripals and Bucha, there's no need a lot of effort to deceive you; you're happy to be deceived. ;)
Ron2
27 Sep 2025   #409
Russia needs the West to un-barbarize itself. People will always long for it.
Team up with the East and start eating dogs and cats and praying to trees again.
Ironside  53 | 13725
27 Sep 2025   #410
Sew white flags and learn the Russian phrase: "We surrender unconditionally."

You mean "иди на хуй"? Is that the correct phrase?
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
27 Sep 2025   #411
Wouldn't Poland have sent troops to protect its people?

Curious! That's the same reason Hitler used to build up the Nazis and invade, annex pieces of Germany's neighbours till the big war started seriously 1939!
The interwar period wasn't a pretty one for the german minorities under now foreign rule after the Treaty of Versailles and others. Not to mention the horror after 1945....

z-g-v.de/zgv/fakten-und-hintergruende/die-geschichte-der-deutschen-vertriebenen

Astounding how history repeats itself....

@grabber
Do you think Germany should put its mind to it and rebuild a strong force for going to re-claim all that was lost?
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #412
@Ironside No, this phrase only means that you are terrified and awe-struck by the power of Russia))
Torq  21 | 1844
27 Sep 2025   #413
why do we need you if we've turned east and are doing business there?

This is a very commonsensical approach. You have business in the Kaukaz and in Central Asia, much more important, profitable and less risky than trying to conquer Central Europe again. Hopefully your government will be as smart as you are.

Russia was left with no choice.

Look, Lithuanians have been messing with Polish minority all the time, ever since they regained their independence from the Soviet Union. Persecuting our schools, language and other minority rights. We could send our army and roll over the f*cking Samogitia twice, and be back home before supper. Did we do it? No. Because it's 21st century and there are other ways of solving conflicts than starting "Special Military Operations". Wars are costly, people die in them, and in the end nobody really profits.

Tell me honestly, hand on your heart, do you think Russia profited from the entire affair in Ukraine?

how enthusiastically you reacted to the stories about Skripals and Bucha

Still, we wouldn't go to war over that.
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #414
@Bratwurst Boy
Do you think Germany should put its mind to it and rebuild a strong force for going to re-claim all that was lost?

Reclaim East Prussia, including Kaliningrad?
If Germany is capable of pursuing such a policy, why not? It's its right. The question is, will it be able to accomplish this with the swamp that currently sits in the Bundestag? If a strong leader emerges who can reunite the nation, then perhaps. After all, the BRD and DDR have already united, haven't they?
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12458
27 Sep 2025   #415
@grabber

You know....Germany after WWI was no nice picture either.....hence Hitler....I guess if Germany feels a real incentive....well....I guess everything would be possible!

But the core question behind all of this would be: IS IT REALLY WORTH IT?

Every european people has its historical hurts...we all have the scars to show for it. Thousands of years of warring and claiming and losing....there is no people here which doesn't have a grievance or two....Russia is no different then all of us in Europe.

Thing is....we just have to let go at some point, breaking the cycle somewhere....
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #416
@Torq
Persecuting our schools, language and other minority rights.

Are they really killing hundreds of Poles in the Baltics? No. But in Ukraine, radicals have started killing. Do you see the difference?

The winners here aren't Ukraine or Russia, but the Anglo-Saxons-the US and UK. It was their instigation and sponsorship of the Maidan that started this whole hellish mess.
Torq  21 | 1844
27 Sep 2025   #417
in Ukraine, radicals have started killing

Before the war or after the rebels in the east declared independence and tried to break off from Ukraine? Any country would defend their territorial integrity.

the US and UK

The US definitely - they are now selling gas to Europe, not to mention all the weapons; billions upon billions of dollars for them. But the UK? What do the Brits have to win here? Sure, they were a major investor in Ukraine before the war but would they really go to war against Russia for their investments? I doubt it.
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #418
ou know....Germany after WWI was no nice picture either.....hence Hitler....

So, the most interesting thing is that we are not Europe's enemies.
You're the one calling us enemies. Russia hasn't imposed a single sanctions against Europe, while Europe and the US have imposed and continue to impose them.
Putin even offered Europe NATO membership, that's true. And what did Europe say? They refused. So who here wants to break this vicious circle, and who doesn't?
Ron2
27 Sep 2025   #419
To follow up on my comments about nuclear bombs. Here is the fact:

"The last nuclear bomb test by a NATO member was conducted by the United States on September 23, 1992, as part of Operation Julin"

So NATO ended the nuclear bomb tests just when the Cold War ended. Another coincidence? Yet today, they threaten us with WW3 and still there have been no more nuclear bomb tests? The reason - some fake treaty, just like the treaty not to fly over Antarctica.

Why would they even perform such tests -- to make sure the chemical capabilities still exist? Or rather to create a propaganda newsletter. People will buy anything if the packaging looks shiny.
grabber  - | 52
27 Sep 2025   #420
in Ukraine, radicals have started killing What do the Brits have to win here?

The British won't fight for their investments on their own; there are Poles and Ukrainians who can be thrown to their deaths.

In 2014, they started killing Russian speakers in Ukraine. It started in Odessa, and then it spread to Luhansk and Donetsk.


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