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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 24


Torq  19 | 1899
2 days ago   #361
Bien sur

Pourquoi pas? French will be French - if they come to the conclusion that it's better for Poland to take the heat and expose herself to nuclear conflict with Russia than endanger France, they will give us the nukes faster than you can say 'sauve qui peut'. lol

I should do more than just talk. See you at the upcoming election.

What? Don't tell me you are running in the elections with Konfederacja! If you are, you have my vote. *thumbs up*

a bilateral alliance with the US

The US is far away and somehow I can't see them going to war against Russia over Poland. I like the Turkey-Scandinavia-Romania idea better.
Ironside  53 | 13660
2 days ago   #362
. I like the Turkey-Scandinavia-Romania idea better.

They are not mutually exclusive.
OP Velund  2 | 576
2 days ago   #363
Maybe Sadam was a better option according to your thinking?

It depends of what you trying to acheive, republic or more survivors from civilian non-combatants.
cms neuf  1 | 2212
2 days ago   #364
At the moment we are probably screwed without the US military. So the object is to get to a position where we are not.

That's simple common sense - doesn't matter if Tusk or Kaczynski or anyone else is in charge. We should start immediately
Ironside  53 | 13660
2 days ago   #365
if Tusk or Kaczynski

Do you know what Tusk can do? Check the toilet before he flushes it, that's the amount of anything he can do.
Korvinus  5 | 764
2 days ago   #366
Given that Zelensky had already firmly rejected Ukraine ceding any territory prior to the meeting it seems unlikely that he would back down.

Zelensky is just posturing for negotiations, he would dance from happiness if Russia agreed to just take some eastern wastelands and fu*ck off, letting Ukraine have security guarantees from the West. But of course he can't just say that.
Torq  19 | 1899
2 days ago   #367
some eastern wastelands

Most of Ukrainian industry and mineral deposits are to be found in those "eastern wastelands". But I suppose he will have to make some sort of Finland-like deal with Russia.
Novichok  7 | 10548
2 days ago   #368
That was never going to happen because TACO.

No, moron...because the US doesn't recognize the ICC. To us, the ICC doesn't exist. They are just letters on a wall.

I would love to see our response if these azzholes arrested a US general for war crimes. I wouldn't want to be in the Hague after that...
Novichok  7 | 10548
2 days ago   #369
The difference bewteen the two men coudn't be clearer...

The one on left - raw power. He and he alone can decide when the war will end.

The one on the right has to "consult" with NATO, "our allies", and Zelensky...Really? Like who gives a fvck about "our allies" and the useful idiot in a green shirt...

I was relieved he didn't mention Albania, US MICC, and "our partners across the isle"...
OP Velund  2 | 576
2 days ago   #370
Most of Ukrainian industry and mineral deposits are to be found in those "eastern wastelands".

You seen what is main product of western part... You already posted a link to a video here.

Ant those on the video is a second generation already. In a beginning of SMO, first generation was already graduated from military schools and take low-level control over AFU. Fortunately, mostly exterminated now (at least highly motivated part).

some sort of Finland-like deal

I suspect, in a decade or so, expert will come to conclusion, that Finland was greatest moron in this crisis, wasting potential of almost a century of stable good relations with biggest and most resourceful neighbour for a privelege to join both losers clubs of europe for its last few years. ;)
Novichok  7 | 10548
2 days ago   #371
that Finland was greatest moron in this crisis,

You forgot to include Poland. These people are so stupid it's embarrassing...Rattle Russia and look to a country 5,000 miles away for protection...Moronic is too mild...
Ironside  53 | 13660
2 days ago   #372
You forgot to include Poland.

No, you moron, he knows what he is talking about, you don't.
Novichok  7 | 10548
2 days ago   #373
Poland and Finland are exactly in the same situation relative to Russia. What applies to Finland applies to Poland.
Korvinus  5 | 764
2 days ago   #374
, that Finland was greatest moron in this crisis,

WW2 happened because Poland wanted to be Poland so...

There is the Czech solution, and there is the Polish solution - so far taken by Ukraine.
This is nation forging event for Ukraine. Before that Ukraine was barely a nation, hollowed out by corruption and Russian rule. Now it embraces its own identity, strongly anti Russian one, unfortunately there is a price to pay but this is always the case.

Once this is over Ukraine will join the brotherhood of the cordon sanitaire nations with Poland, Finland, Baltic States, Romania.
Torq  19 | 1899
2 days ago   #375
main product of western part

This "main product" we will never forget.

both losers clubs of europe for its last few years

Hm... I would ещё не делил шкуру неубитого медведя, tankist. Americans started this whole mess, bought millions of hectares of Ukrainian land, signed a rare minerals mining deal etc. and now they are playing innocent angels ("oh, we only want peace - we only want the killing to stop"). My arse. Europe is currently in the process (which might be stretched in time to 5-6 years) of telling the USA to f*ck off. What will happen between Russia and the EU after that remains to be seen.

In the larger picture - every nation has its God-appointed role to play in the world's history. Poland's role is to facilitate and hasten the second coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ, and for this we need nukes. But I repeat myself.
Ironside  53 | 13660
2 days ago   #376
Poland and Finland are exactly in the same situation relative to Russia.

Go and do not bother me with your mussing, it is a waste of time with the level of your knowledge.
Ironside  53 | 13660
2 days ago   #377
By the way, it is clear now that Trump had been bluffing in case of ending the war between Russia and Ukraine. He said 24 hours, lol. Seems to me that 24 years won't be enough for him to deliver on his promise.
On the other hand, Poland could end this war in three or four months. Just by closing the border with Ukraine.
Novichok  7 | 10548
2 days ago   #378
Once this is over Ukraine will join the brotherhood of the cordon sanitaire nations with Poland, Finland, Baltic States, Romania.

What a load of poetic crap...

As brothers, the armies of Poland, Finland, Baltic States, Romania should be fighting Russians along with Ukrainians...WTF! Too chickens?

BTW, dodn't even try that BS about A5...Invokiing A5 is optional...You can kill all the Russians you want without it...
Novichok  7 | 10548
2 days ago   #379
it is a waste of time with the level of your knowledge.

Knowledge is good. Too much of it is a curse...

To the average guy, history starts the second he other guy aims his riffle at him. Duh. This is when analyzing history instead of shooting back gets you killed. Duh!

Often, ignorance is survival...
Korvinus  5 | 764
2 days ago   #380
should be fighting Russians along with Ukrainians

Historically Poland had to suffer for others a lot so it is a nice change when others are on the front line instead.
PolAmKrakow  3 | 997
2 days ago   #381
@Ironside
First of all a$$hole, I am not your son.

@Torq
I appreciate your bravery for Poland and Europe. But the manpower, and equipment arent there. Without the US tech, Europe would not last long against a full Russian mobilization. If NK and any number of other Russian allies joined in, it would be over rather quickly.
Novichok  7 | 10548
2 days ago   #382
Historically Poland had to suffer for others a lot

Either you are lying or Poles are idiots.

So which one is it?
Korvinus  5 | 764
2 days ago   #383
Adam Mickiewicz himself formulated the idea of Poland being "the Christ of Nations".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_of_Europe
Torq  19 | 1899
2 days ago   #384
Without the US tech, Europe would not last long against a full Russian mobilization.

What makes you think so? It is the fourth year already that Russia is bogged down in Ukraine - Ukraine that hasn't even conducted a proper mobilisation. The EU has half-a-billion population and still untouched professional armies with vast potential for mobilisation and ever growing defence industry. You have been underestimating Russia for a very long time ("happy gulag b*tches" and all that) and now you are overestimating them. You are going from extreme to extreme whilst the reality is that Russia is too weak to hope for any sort of success against European NATO. The only hope they can have is that they will be able to pick off individual European countries one by one. Of course, Europe will not allow this, and any attack on the Baltics, Finland, Romania or Poland will mean war against the European NATO. If the US decides to wait on the sidelines, fine, but it will have long-lasting repercussions for the American position in the world. It is what it is. Many solutions and courses of action can be undertaken by all parties but rimming Putin's anus doesn't seem like a particularly beneficial one; either for the US, Europe or Ukraine. Ah, well...
Ironside  53 | 13660
2 days ago   #385
First of all a$$hole, I am not your son.

Well, I suppose we are about the same age, but still you should call me daddy.
--
Adam Mickiewicz himself formulated the idea

He was a poet for goodness sake, he formed poems and that it, taking them all literally is a sign of brain damage.
Ron2
2 days ago   #386
1. Russia attacks Ukraine and takes 20% of its territory.
2. Trump invites Russia to end the war after Russia achieved 100% of their goals.
3. Trump wants a peace Nobel prize.

For what? Of course, the moron cannot calculate, but once Russia realized 100% of their goals, the war would have ended without Trumps involvement.

The summit is just a validation of Russia's ending the war and stealing of Ukraine's land.
Mr Grunwald  34 | 2271
2 days ago   #387
3. Trump wants a peace Nobel prize.

Well good luck, threatening with invasion of Greenland. Kind of made that a impossibility. The comitee wouldn't dream of thinking about it after that. Pressuring the government wouldn't help either, which the Chinese don't understand to this day.
Novichok  7 | 10548
2 days ago   #388
stealing of Ukraine's land.

...just like Poland in 1945...

If you can, why not? Because it's not nice? A million things that were no nice happened since Adam and Eve...

Adam Mickiewicz himself formulated the idea of Poland being "the Christ of Nations".

Sober people don't say crap like this.

Christ committed suicide and his dad did nothing. No, thanks...
mafketis  43 | 11738
2 days ago   #389
ussia achieved 100% of their goals.

What were their goals?

I don't think any russian remembers what the goals were or what the goals now are....
Torq  19 | 1899
2 days ago   #390
just like Poland in 1945...

What?


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