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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23


Novichok  6 | 9553
28 Jun 2025   #181
'Ukraine can win' - new NATO commander

...and pigs can fly...
Novichok  6 | 9553
28 Jun 2025   #182
All problems in the world go back to the British...


Ironside  51 | 13418
28 Jun 2025   #183
Because I know Russians. They are kind-hearted, generous, and noble people.

Every last one of them, indeed, their only drawback that keeps them from flowering into full potential is the fact that they live in Russia.
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We, Poles, have memory of an elephant

You mean generally good, but blurry when it comes to the details? I love generalizations like that. I would say I'm thrilled when I see generalizations turned into slogans that sound nice but don't mean a thing.
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If Russia can defeat the total culture of lying at every step, for no logical reason whatsoever, it will be the greatest country in the world.

You earned my respect, Bobko.
Russia's issue is not authoritarianism, not having an empire, not being an expansively aggressive power. Those things worked for other entities in the past. It is the culture or civilization in Russia that is a problem. One of those visible manifestations of inferior civilization is a culture of lying.
Velund  1 | 508
28 Jun 2025   #184
culture of lying

Now try to find key difference in two very different cultures of lying, namely Russian and British. Then you maybe understand why I will choose German over British in any case that need such thing as trust.
jon357  73 | 24510
28 Jun 2025   #185
With Ukraine, my hatred grows in direct proportion to the amount I think about it.

You'll hate it even more when it proves to be the end of r*SSia.

Why Harte them. They have done you no harm.

Also.... look at russia's allies... a veritable who's who of some of the worst governments on Earth......china.......north korea.... Iran.,,,.

Choosing between their vision of the worlds and that in Europe, Canada, Australia etc is not a hard one.
mafketis  42 | 11528
28 Jun 2025   #186
Why Harte them

Narcissistic rage.... everything about putin's russia boils down to collective narcissistic rage about the world rejecting the russian model....
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12206
28 Jun 2025   #188
everything about putin's russia boils down to collective narcissistic rage about the world rejecting the russian model

I doubt that.....heritage pride is a very human thing (especially when in strange, foreign lands) and hard to put into the good or bad category....even when in error people cling to it, they will very probably dislike much of it themselves but still defend it against the "outside"....that doesn't make them bad, hopeless people....just humans.

You will very probably like them alot better once their gov changes for the better....but it will be still the same people!

PS: Putin himself would very probably be someone else today wouldn't he felt so humiliated personally by the downfall of the Sovietunion...some biographer hinted at that!
mafketis  42 | 11528
28 Jun 2025   #189
....but it will be still the same people!

That's the problem.... a hundred plus million people living in a seething rage at the rest of the world. Trying to pretend that's not the case doesn't make anything better.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12206
28 Jun 2025   #190
That's the problem

You see that as "the problem"?

For me that means hope! Hope that there just isn't "millions living in seething rage", even if the gov does! And govs change all the time....sooner or later....
mafketis  42 | 11528
28 Jun 2025   #191
hope that there just isn't "millions living in seething rage", even if the gov does!

In this, the government is following the people... in a very real sense, it's not the case that putin dragged poor, peaceful russians into a war, but rather he was desperately trying to give russians something they wanted (invading and subduing another country).

To the extent that I've been able to follow russian commentary and pro-putin threads on twitter the rage comes through very clearly. It's one of those things that you can go a long time without noticing it but once you see it you can't unsee it....
cms neuf  1 | 1996
28 Jun 2025   #193
83 percent of North Nigerians voted for Putler

A majority have full knowledge of the war crimes and rather than feeling disgust they have only 2 reactions

- asking for more extensive and more violent crimes (typical NN response)

- talking about Abu Ghraib, which has nothing to do with Ukraine (response of North Lagos intellectuals)

As for Bobko's claim that the NN alkie army is far to the East of Pokrovsk, I checked this morning and they have indeed formed a salient that stretches 16km east of the town but they don't really control these fields and nobody lives there. It's a joke to say they are making progress
Ironside  51 | 13418
28 Jun 2025   #194
Hmmm.

Stop projecting. Projecting your German attitude and feeling of being wronged onto Russians.
There was no more wronged nation than Hungary, do you see them F about in a crazy manner?
No, those are excuses.
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North Nigerians

Geez, stop that nonsense, you are not impressing anyone. Your manner of referring to Russia as Nigeria is confusing. Forums are about communication, and you fail in that.
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Mr Grunwald  34 | 2196
28 Jun 2025   #195
To the extent that

It's just hidden, subconscious rage at their own authorities they know they can take out at any outside forces, one of the very few freedoms they have. The second people realise that while being a majority with a dissatisfied administration, economical sector, army and intelligence services... Poof! Revolution! Coup d'etat and other whatnot.

It's a ticking time bomb and Putin is desperately keeping it in sphere of it being abroad.

One of the main reasons he doesn't seek peace, it's about keeping power in Russia.
mafketis  42 | 11528
28 Jun 2025   #196
hidden, subconscious rage at their own authorities they know they can take out at any outside forces

The way abused children defend their terrible parents against those who try to save them?

There's also one abused child who's just glad drunk daddy is beating the bejesus out of someone else for the moment....
Torq  16 | 1511
28 Jun 2025   #197
do you see them F about in a crazy manner?

Well... running around in "Nem, nem, soha!" t-shirts 105 years after Trianon is a bit crazy if you ask me...

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Trianon memorabilia industry is huge in Hungary. Commemorative tray, anyone?

2

No? Maybe you smoke, sir? A Trianon ashtray perhaps then?

3

Oh, you quit smoking? Very wise, sir, very wise. Then perhaps I may interest you in those lovely Trianon playing cards?

4

Is this you daughter, sir? Aw... so sweet. Perhpas a Greater Hungary, pre-Trianon borders, badge for her? It would look absolutely lovely on her school uniform...

5

Nagy Magyarország beer coaster?

6

You don't drink, sir? How can you not drink after what they did to us in Trianon?

Et ce-kurwa-tera...

Can you imagine Partitions of Poland memorabilia sold all over Warsaw and other major cities' souvenir shops? Now tell me again they're not crazy about being wronged in the past...
Novichok  6 | 9553
28 Jun 2025   #198
One of those visible manifestations of inferior civilization is a culture of lying.

It was not Putin who was saying that the border was secure. Or that migrants are great for the economy...

Or that in ten years, Miami will be under water...Or that men can get pregnant...

Or that Vietcong was a threat to the US...58,000 men paid dearly for that lie...

If Russians lie, we made it into science...
cms neuf  1 | 1996
28 Jun 2025   #199
Typical of your pathetic spam - climate change, immigration, Vietnam

And of course transexuals, even though you have your own thread to discuss gender fluid men with great physiques.
Novichok  6 | 9553
28 Jun 2025   #200
climate change, immigration, Vietnam

No, Golden Moron, my post is not about any of that...

It's about lying and claims that Russia is uniquely prone to it...

Compared to the Western lying scum, Russians are boy scouts.

Their main fault is that they tend to trust the scum in London and Washington.
Novichok  6 | 9553
28 Jun 2025   #201
Zelensky would lose Ukrainian election - survey
Ex-top General Valery Zaluzhny would win the presidency if Ukrainians were allowed to vote, data suggests


Oh, this Ukrainian democracy...every Western idiot's dream to die for...
jon357  73 | 24510
29 Jun 2025   #202
Lovely news

Saturday's pre-dawn strike on the Kirovske base, in occupied Crimea, targeted Russian aircraft, air defence systems and storage facilities for ammunition and drones, according to Ukraine's security service.

"Available data indicate the destruction of multi-purpose and attack helicopters Mi-8, Mi-26 and Mi-28, as well as the self-propelled anti-aircraft missile and gun complex Pantsir-S1," an official told the Associated Press.


telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/28/ukraine-destroys-russian-helicopter-airfield-drone-strikes/
Velund  1 | 508
29 Jun 2025   #203
Lovely news

Is there any means to determine from which one of many alternative realities you got your lovely news?
cms neuf  1 | 1996
29 Jun 2025   #204
You think it's untrue ?

The North Nigerians once again sleeping off a heavy Saturday night drinking paint stripper - must have been quite something for them to wake up to burning helicopters
jon357  73 | 24510
29 Jun 2025   #205
The orcs always try to deny things.

They don't do it well and nobody beliees them.

wake up to burning

Something they really ought to be used to by now.
jon357  73 | 24510
29 Jun 2025   #206
wake up to burning

Just when you thought the Orcs couldn't get any more squalid in the way they treat their young men:

Into the chaos of no man's land ride the Russian soldiers. Flying across the steppe at 50mph on cheap Chinese motorbikes, their objective is to breach Ukrainian defences and cause havoc behind enemy lines.

But few will ever make it. Most are picked off by drones or artillery fire. Some self-destruct by crashing in the mogul field of shell craters. The life expectancy of those who do survive the journey is little improved, stranded and surrounded by the enemy as they are.

"Basically it's a suicide mission," Yevhen, a lieutenant captain in Ukraine's 28th brigade, said flatly. "Because they never come back."

Nonetheless, these latter-day cavalry charges - on what the Russian army refers to as its "iron horses" - are a growing feature of Moscow's military strategy, in response to the ever greater pervasiveness of drones, which account for up to 70 per cent of all casualties.

thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/putins-suicide-bikers-speed-into-no-mans-land-to-cause-chaos-fxh2ch270

At least the dogs in no-man's land won't go hungry.
jon357  73 | 24510
29 Jun 2025   #207
And now Poland has had to scramble jets. The Orcs used 500 missiles to down one Ukrainian F35.

[Due to the attack by the Russian Federation carrying out strikes on objects located in the territory of Ukraine, Polish and allied aviation has begun operating in our airspace," said a statement.
mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-nato-scrambles-warplanes-russia-35470041
Velund  1 | 508
29 Jun 2025   #208
down one Ukrainian F35

Trump will be shocked. Someone gave F35 to ukraine without their consent, just to be downed by low tech orc weapons. ;) And now Poland risk to become directly involved as a militant in current conflict.
jon357  73 | 24510
29 Jun 2025   #209
just to be downed by low tech orc weapons

500 missiles!

Someone gave F35 to ukraine without their consent

Tough tamale. It's none of your business

current conflict.

It's not a 'conflict' though is it....

It's an illegal and unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country by a pariah state.

And it's not going well for you.
jon357  73 | 24510
29 Jun 2025   #210
Quite a lot of good coverage about r*SSia's losses and failures today.

Despite having one of the largest militaries in the world, and despite the assumption that Ukraine could be overrun in a matter of days, over three years on Russian forces have taken barely 20 per cent of the country, Russia has been invaded in turn and losses have included not only the one million casualties - including over 500,000 dead - but more than 10,000 tanks, 21,500 armoured fighting vehicles, 41,000 other vehicles, 24,500 artillery pieces and 370 aircraft including a fair wedge of the strategic nuclear bomber fleet.

To put this in some perspective, 10,000 tank losses is a figure greater than the most heavily produced German tank of the entire Second World War.

Clearly, the key feature of almost all these wars is barely comprehensible levels of casualties. Anyone reading this catalogue of death and destruction - with the accompanying high proportion of defeats - could be forgiven for thinking that Russia is simply not very good at fighting wars. And bluntly, they'd be right.

telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/29/russia-army-corrupt-inefficient-failure-ukraine-history/


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