Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany?

The old ones sure. Doesn't mean that there can't be new ones.


It wasn't though. The murder of people trying to escape the GDR was in fact illegal even by the laws of the GDR. There were even some attempts to prosecute the culprits by GDR attorneys until the Politburo put a stop to it. Which is why it was possible to prosecute the culprits after 1989, because they could not fall back on the "nulla poena sine lege" argument.

This is also the difference between the GDT and FRG. The FRG follows the rule of law, and any attempt to ban the AfD will need to convince the German Constitutional Court, not the government. If


1. We are not living in a failing state. We experience economic difficulties and our state is need of reform, but we are not living in Somalia, Venezuela or Russia.

That distinction is important because I know quite a few AfD voters who keep saying that "since things cant get any worse, the AfD should get a shot" Except of course, things can get infinitely worse from where we are right now. We are still living in a peaceful, wealthy country in which most people can live a decent, peaceful life.

2. Nobody has anything against opposition. The problem with the AfD is though that they dont seem to want to reform the system, fix what is broken but destroy it at the expense of values that lie at the heart of our constitution. That is not acceptable and never will be.

2. There is

as long as we live.... I saw them today at a festival in Saxony... disgusting.

...self-inflicted which makes you Germans really stupid...

You should be selling things to both sides. China would ... if it's not doing it already.


Seem? WTF!

They have a manifesto that explains exactly what they want...

Did you read it? I did.

...like banning free speech? Is this one of those values?

How about importing 1 million Muslims without asking Germans if they like the idea...

Hitler didn't ask Germans if they approved operation Barbarosa, either... except that importing Muslims is an aggression against Germans. Barbarosa was not.

That makes Hitler a better German than Merkel, the Germany-hating commie bi*tch...

One has to hate Germany to inflict Muslim scum in such numbers upon a country that should always be white and Christian.

You do realize that I am a better German than most of you weepy, gilt-ridden idiots...

Oh please....then why did it happen again and again with the killers getting rewarded? Ever heard of the "Schießbefehl"???



verfassungen.de/ddr/staatsgrenze82.htm

[quote....](2) Die Anwendung der Schußwaffe ist gerechtfertigt, um die unmittelbar bevorstehende Ausführung oder die Fortsetzung einer Straftat zu verhindern, die sich den Umständen nach als ein Verbrechen darstellt. Sie ist auch gerechtfertigt zur Ergreifung von Personen, die eines Verbrechens dringend verdächtig sind....[/quote]
Meaning everybody declared an "enemy of the state" by the gov in East-Berlin....it was easy to become a criminal, wanting to leave was already a crime!

Stop the BS, Tacitus! I don't take THAT one lightly... the last victim, Chris Gueffroy was killed near my 'hood....I could practically hear the shots!

The murderer and their superiors and the responsible gov politicians got only problems AFTER they lost....

Look at the wording Tacitus...it sounds so clear and nice and upstanding....could stand like that also in the german Verfassung, right?

Ask an adult before you write this nonsense on the forum. 🤦‍♂️

You know.....I feel more threatened by a Linke who openly wants to abolish the capitalist system and reinstate socialism aka GDR 2.0....still, this party is not threatened by a Verbot and is totally a coalition possibiltiy for the mainstream parties, if need be also for the CDU.

In discussions about capitalism and socialism you often hear "let the people decide"....

You are not fooling anybody!

I'm bowing out here....Gute Nacht all

Socialism doesn't have to be 'GDR' style.

Fascism is however in every case corporatism, with a tiny number of people enriching themselves at your expense.

The problem is that government no longer reflects the will of the people.

People elected CDU largely due to its promises to restrict/reverse current migration policies but other coalition partners have scuttled that at every turn.

the message being sent (no matter what politicians think they're doing) is that only an absolute majority of AfD has any chance of stopping flow and/or deporting those with no legal right to be in Germany.

I would love it if the German establishment woke up to this and decided to do what the electorate wants but that doesn't seem possible at present.

At least now we know that Western "democracies" are as democratic as was the USSR and PRL. In none of these the ruling mob gave a fvck about the voters.

Summrizing:

No democracy

No free speech

No right to self-defense

No army

On US welfare

Debt

Muslims all over

That Western raj na ziemi ..

Where half of humanity would like to live. 🤫

Socialism, in any form, is a scourge on society and stifles growth. Whether in the long term or short term, socialism leads to disaster. Once its resources are depleted, it often resorts to totalitarianism. Whoever advocates for socialism is a misguided individual with delusions of grandeur.

I doubt Norway, Sweden and Finland would agree with your bile there.

Not sure about Sweden (cause it's a looneybin), but most politicians in Norway (including the ones from the Labour Party that has strong connections to worker union's across the country). Do think that socialism stifles growth. Which is why they have allowed or are not against capitalism being present in the country.

The amount of socialism amounts depends on the fruits of wealth of the market and capitalistic approach.

Except left-wing radicals, most of the political spectrum does not see socialism as functional or able to survive on it's own and fully dependant on capitalism. Therefore the more wealth created and invested. The more benefits can be provided.

Socialism isn't against the presence of capitalism, as long as there are clear parameters to the activities of businesspeople and for-profit companies in order to prevent exploitation.

And of course you have your Sovereign Wealth Fund, about as Socialist as it gets.

Speech may be free, however the violence which it could incite, isn't and should
indeed be punished swiftly and surely!

For this very reason, the FRG to this day doesn't allow for jokes about the Nazi period,
either in public, in open forum or in print.

There, socialism works as long as it can suck the blood out of capitalism.

Just as being gay is cool as long as heteros make babies. The very definition of a parasite.

Look up "barnacle".

A parasite is often a convenient label for someone or ones who
honestly need help and the deserved assistance that comes from providing
basic, human services for all citizens worthy of such assistance.

A few scammers out there, as with a few rotten apples, shouldn't be allowed
to destroy the entire crop, should it!

Which Norway, with its vast Sovereign Wealth Fund, certainly doesn't.

The "could" is the problematic point!

You can't just decide from your own political leanings what is "violence" or maybe "defense" or "prevention" or whatever!

Ever heard of Maja T?

...What happened in Hungary

T. was arrested in Berlin in December 2023. The case concerns acts allegedly committed in Hungary in February 2023. At that time, T. is said to have traveled to Budapest with a group of people. The group is reported to have committed a total of five crimes over several days at different crime scenes in different constellations. The Dresden public prosecutor's office has received around 950 hours of video footage from the Hungarians. The videos allegedly show T. during and after the crimes and in an Airbnb apartment. The group is said to have attacked people from the far-right scene with telescopic batons. The alleged perpetrators are classified by the authorities as left-wing extremists. The group is said to have formed around Lina E., who has since been convicted, in Jena.....

lto.de/recht/hintergruende/h/extradition-maja-t-rehabilitation-house-of-representatives

Declare one an enemy and you can bash heads in to your hearts content....it would be not real bad "violence" after all, but needed "defense" and in the case of some "Nazis" even "necessary prevention"....right???

Maja T. is actually widely supported by the Left...no talk of being a hate-crime or speech inciting violence...nothing....of course not, she did hurt the right ones, right?

The moment speech gets canceled/forbidden/punished for the possibilites it is always misused and abused for political uses, just wrong!

Migrants are parasites because they are not entitled to my tax money. Illegals should be denied everything, including healthcare.

That money is for other Americans.

When you break into my house and slash yourself, don't ask for a bandaid or me to call 911.

BB, you are a genius...

It's actually worse...The cops would show up if I said something that might offend someone...Nobody was offended but it's a crime anyway...

Which of course is why laws are precise (or arguable in court of they are less precise) and why there are sentencing guidelines for those found guilty. The law must always be politically neutral.

Bold and doubly underlined!!!

...and that's why Geman communists are allowed to have a party but fascists are not.

Jon...another PF genius...who never bothers to fact-check his idiotic I-am-a-good-boy posts

Of course. It's a delicate path to tread, however there are always some who feel their favourites should get better treatment.

Another brilliance from a PF genius...

Everywhere else, the favorites get worse treatment...

Are you a child or just trying to be cute?

16 candidates in tha5 region, 7 were afd. One suicide, one an octogenarian with end stage cancer and the others not suspicious.

Given the population size of NRW and the number of local council seats, the stats are probably around the same as every year.

euronews.com/2025/09/05/social-media-rife-with-conspiracy-theories-after-16-candidates-die-ahead-of-german-local-e

It's Putin's fault.

Please define "Americans" for us, Rich!
Am dying to hear your answer.