Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany?

To me - it's obvious what's going on.

Germany was a super powerful industrial state that steamrolled practically all of Europe. The British, Russians and Americans were genuinely afraid of it. When you are afraid of something - it is difficult to sympathize.

In the same way - Israel is a 1000X more powerful than Gaza. Homo Sapiens - evolutionarily - are predisposed to cheering for the underdog.

Even a child understands that what Israel is doing is utterly disproportional. As it would be, if an older brother thrashed his younger brother half to death, for breaking his toys.

Even a child understands basic mathematics - even though it is unpleasant to apply it to human lives. That is: 1000 dead Jews, and 40,000 dead Arabs.

Germany and Israel get no sympathy because they are strong and technologically advanced. Different behavior is expected from them.

maybe invading Gaza, bombing Gaza etc multiple times before October 2023 was the bigger error, don't you think? bigger errors that lead to more terror?

I agree with that....usually I would probably also do the same....but somehow what happened in October and watching those widely streamed videos changed me....I can't help it!

maybe this will sound rubbish or preposterous to you... but New York Times reported in 2023 or 2024 that some in Israeli intelligence knew about the planned Hamas action well in advance - the article said IIRC that the reports were ignored by higher officials - I somehow think that this was deliberately "ignored" so that Israel could have an excuse for their little Endlosung - I know this may sound outrageous to some but I think it is probable

Do you have a link?

of course I do:

nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

maybe I am prejudiced against Israel and demonising them and my suspicion is far from reality, though

Always a justifiable response to an act of terror perpetrated by seven-century uncivilized Palestinians. What do you propose, an act of disappearing, riding into the sunset by the whole nation and their 5000-year history

Thank you and Wow!

What a failure! I hope that heads will roll for that dismissal...

But I disagree with your conclusion, Gumi. Because of that sentence:

...."It is a plan designed to start a war," she added. "It's not just a raid on a village."...

Well, Hamas got its war, I hope they regret their wish mightily, every **** day!

oh, yeah - it's as if Hamas is a true threat to the existence of the state of Israel and the Jewish nation

yeah that was an Israeli intelligence memeber assessment - my opinion though is that if Hamas thought they can win any such war they must have been stupid and I don't believe in stupidity to that degree - since my conclusions/suspicions - you are of course free to reach your own conclusions

Maybe more fanatism and hate....that makes even smart people act irrational!

I can only guess what kind of hate the Jews felt about the Germans and Germany, maybe even still feel....

Of course Hamas never harbored hopes of winning such a war.

Instead, they were strongly aware that the attention of the world had moved on from their plight. The glitz and glamor of being a mediator between the Israelis and Palestinians had worn off, while their Arab neighbors became increasingly interested in normalizing ties with Israel.

They calculated that they could trigger a war with Israel, where Israel would lose all sense of proportion and act like a wild gorilla. This would make it impossible for the largest country in the region (Saudi Arabia) to continue on the path of normalizing relations with Israel. It would strengthen Nasrallah in Lebanon, and Khamenei in Iran. It would give Erdogan - reasons to rally his Islamist electorate. It would bring the United States back, as an eager mediator - instead of being distracted by Ukraine and places like Mali.

Their calculation worked perfectly. Israel took the bait, and followed its worst instincts.

The result? Netanyahu judged a war criminal by the ICC. His hopes of Trump saving him from Biden - dashed - he still got tariffed like everyone else. Trump didn't even stop in Israel on his tour of the Middle East, and even announced a plan to negotiate with Iran. Israel itself is becoming an international pariah - on par with Russia (country that started the worst war in Europe since WW2). The Israeli economy is in a recession, and there are daily protests against Netanyahu's government pressing him to do a deal where the hostages return home immediately.

Hamas already lived in a dump. Now they live in a dump full of construction rubble. But they won a much bigger moral victory - converting hundreds of millions of new believers to their cause, and isolating Israel.

afaik they hate Poles more than Germans (not saying here that it is a widespread sentiment though)

Yes and here in America they talk more often of the Pogroms their grandparents ran from, than the Holocaust.

Centuries of hatred from Poles and Russians is harder to forget than a brief episode of total slaughter from the Germans - I guess.

well, you can count it as a victory then - but I seem to not understand this kind of victories

....and what a calculation that was!

If that's true then its still not a full victory, not if Israel truly cleans out Gaza and ends Hamas grip on it also physically. It will be hard to get that back, even with all the moral screaming of the world supporting them...


Not to mention the hate Poles felt and still feel for Germans....my what a **** world that is!

Let me simplify things for you...

Go to Israel and ask them if they give a fvck about history, rules, justice, and what's right and wrong...

I wonder how Israelis now feel when Trump (as Bobko says) is willing to strike a deal with Iran (I'm not saying any deal is a given and what conditions both sides are willing to accept)

That depends on the deal...

My deal as president would be proposed to Iran by email:

Before you hit Israel - directly or by proxies - google Hiroshima.

Probably worried, however so far it's just words and Iran is extremely vulnerable to ICBMs. It looks big on the map, however the population is concentrated in a relatively small area

Are you for real? One thousand three hundred hundreds of innocent victims, hundreds of women raped, tortured to death, baybies burned in the ovens is not enough to awaken your
dark heart? And why do you concentrate your attention on Hamas? Why not expand your horizons and acknowledge hundreds of millions of Arabs, wishing Israel's
demise with the same passion as Hamas? With emeans land messes, why don't Arabs donate a little area of land so the Palestinians can call it home?
Besides, with a predominantly Palestinian population, Jordan is the Palestinian state.

...and answer my favorite test question:

Does Israel have a right to exist?

If your answer is No, the conversation is over.

because the massive land masses of the Islamic countries are mostly deserts? will you be so keen to live in a desert even if it was for free?

So you don't want to have a conversation with a billion Muslims? 🤔

why should he?

I know you're not serious. You lost the ability to reason, now you write the BS that flows from your behind. what do you think Gaza is fertile Ukranian czarnoziem? And furthermore, what was today's Israel, dessert with the piles of camel **** and few olive ochards it took Israelis ingeniuety and brains (mostly Polish)
to make the dessert bloom. Israel's withdrawal from Gaza left thousands of fully equipped and functioning greenhouses, and what barbarians have done. dismantled whole structures and used piping to create life-destroying, crude rackets.

That is not an intelligent question, what do I have to do with it ?

Nope. Not interested.

Hamas is not a political or even relgious organization.... it is a money laundering scheme that uses civilian lives as a resource to keep the money flow going.

Once you accept that, everything they do makes sense.

They consider themselves freedom fighters.