Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany?

OO

*goes reading*

I am sure they believe it. I am not aware that Höcke disputes that 6 millions jews have been murdered either. He just doesn't want any attention on that (and probably other crimes).

Some of them would probably argue that the Third Reich was just a small part of German history that receives undue attention

Alexander Gauland, the co-leader of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, has described the Nazi era as a brief stain in Germany's otherwise grand history.

google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/afds-gauland-plays-down-nazi-era-as-a-bird-****-in-german-history/a-44055213

So why would they agree with another monument that puts the spotlight on another crime?

Palestinians >>>> Israelis

It wouldn't surprise me if many inside this AfD follow this outdated theory.

A rather smart phrase!

Jack the Ripper murders took place over a period of just under three months, from August 31 to November 9, 1888 -- so I suppose we could say those murders were a brief stain in Jack's otherwise pretty normal life. ;)


Hmm... maybe because they would rather have good relations with the country who will be their shield from Russia if the sh*t ever hits the fan?

Based in their agenda, what makes AfD "extreme"?

Did I become invisible on PF?

I wonder why nobody in this thread has asked what makes AfD extreme, based on their agenda.

Based in their agenda, what makes AfD "extreme"?

I just did...for the 10th time...

It's more the common interpretation of it that's outdated. Saying that it's only great men that make history.

What Carlyle actually wrote was about the way charismatic and able individuals sometimes act as a catalyst for change.


The type of person who is drawn to extreme politics. The points in their election leaflet are purely opportunistic.

Seems like an obvious question, and yet nobody has asked it. Strange.

Strange that nobody wants to answer it.

You assume they view Russia as a threat. Many inside the party believe that Russia should be a strategic ally and partner, that supporting Ukraine is wrong and that the Eastern Europeans are at best misguided in their warnings against Russia.

In February, German parliamentarian Steffen Kotre, from the far-right party AfD (Alternative for Germany), was interviewed on Russian TV by the propagandist Vladimir Soloyvov. Kotre accused Western media of stirring up their populations against the Russian regime.

aspistrategist.org.au/how-germanys-far-right-politicians-became-the-kremlins-voice/

Is being "far-right" good or bad for you?

It's even stranger that Torq did not notice Rich's repeated attempts. It's a curious case of night blindness, but then we're talking Turkey.
From this point on, address Turley only during daytime hours.

It is daytime in Poland, birdie. :)

And my nickname, unlike yours, doesn't come from a bird but from the Venerable Guardian of Faith and Justice, Hammer on Heretics, Illustrious Protector of Truth, Great Inquisitor and Defender of the Faith, Tomás de Torquemada.

TORQuemada. Get it?

So cut the Turkey nonsense and stop pecking me, little bird.

Where's the indictable hate speech here? Where is the xenophobia?

If you think this is a problematic statement, then you Germans really are sick.

Germany is a Great (with a capital "G") country. Forget about musicians and inventors - just focus on the philosophers. Schopenhauer, Kant, Hegel, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Marx. That's just the 19th century, but it's already like 60% of everything that actually moved the needle. That is, without Germans - we could not even think properly about our place in the universe.

Russia has a much less impressive intellectual history, and still it carries around its philosophers on its shoulders - jamming them down anyone's throat who is foolish enough to listen.

Let's see...

Schopenhauer - critique of pure reason: limits knowledge to phenomena, excluding metaphysical knowledge of God and the soul, undermining natural theology. The ethics of moral autonomy places the human will and reason as the ultimate moral authority rather than divine law and grace. The exaltation of human reason apart from divine revelation and grace leads to moral subjectivism and undermines the authority of the Church and Scripture.

Verdict:



Hegel

Hegel's idea of God as the unfolding of Spirit in history undermines the unchanging, personal God of Catholic doctrine. Suggests that truth evolves over time (totally retarded when we think about extratemporal eternity). Reduces theology to speculative philosophy, blurs Creator-creation distinction, and replaces divine revelation with dialectical reason.

Verdict:



Schopenhauer

Life is fundamentally suffering, and the highest goal is the denial of the will-a view contrary to the Catholic affirmation of creation and the redemptive value of suffering. His metaphysical "will" dominates human action, conflicting with Catholic teaching on moral responsibility. Denies the goodness of creation and the meaningfulness of human life and freedom, opposing the Catholic view of hope, providence, and salvation.

Verdict:



Nietzsche

Nietzsche's rejection of God aims to overthrow the Christian moral order. Promotes a radically self-assertive ethic contrary to humility, charity, and obedience. His glorification of strength, contempt for compassion, and attack on Christian virtues align with the "pride of Lucifer" and undermine natural law and divine revelation.

Verdict:



Heidegger

Heidegger's philosophy often excludes or relativizes the personal, revealed God. Emphasizes human existence in a way that often lacks reference to sin, grace, or salvation.His existentialism abstracts Being from God, making his thought spiritually sterile or ambiguous from a Catholic standpoint.

Verdict

Hmm... the stake might be a bit too harsh. Let's say: official reproach, stern warning, a little bit of torture and some time in the dungeon to reflect on his mistakes.

Marx

Religion is the "opium of the people", class struggle as the engine of progress negates Christian teaching on solidarity, charity, and the intrinsic dignity of each person, Marxist ideology opposes the Church's teaching on the soul, God, private property, and the family, promoting atheism and often leading to persecution of religion.

Verdict



Do you have any other heretics for me?

You left out the part in which he insulted the Holocaust memorial and wanted to move away from teaching children about this and other crimes commited by Germany.

If you don't learn from history you are doomed to repeat it. Putin has undercut remembrance of Russian and Soviet crimes and tragedies, and instead implemented education that glorifies Stalin and the SU. That kind of mentality led to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, with 950k+ Russian dead or wounded and country that has been robbed of its' future.

I'd rather not see the same happening to my country.

@Torq

Do you have anything to say about Kant?

Danke, my son, for noticing the mistake. Of course, the first one is Kant (or should we rather say C*nt?).

Kant - critique of pure reason: limits knowledge to phenomena, excluding metaphysical knowledge of God and the soul, undermining natural theology. The ethics of moral autonomy places the human will and reason as the ultimate moral authority rather than divine law and grace. The exaltation of human reason apart from divine revelation and grace leads to moral subjectivism and undermines the authority of the Church and Scripture.

Verdict: the stake.

Best post in history of PF.

Saved.

Yes, you will be if you convert to the One-and-Only, Holy and Apostolic, Roman Catholic Church.

Anyways, gotta go. I will be checking this thread. Maybe somebody will finally ask what makes AfD extreme, based on their agenda (so far nobody has).

...best postings in a thread in a long time....and a good laugh to go home with! :)

*waves*

"Vom Volke der Dichter und Denker zum Volke der Richter und Henker" - Klabund aka Alfred Henschke

"From the nation of poets and thinkers to the nation of snitches and stinkers"
Should the AfD ever get their way, woe betide Germany, woe betide Europe!

The always invaluable Andrew Hammel writes how German 'feminist foreign policy' hurts German women (by getting many of them attacked, raped and/or killed).

If Merz can turn the tide on migration the AfD will dry up and blow away.... if not... they will get stronger.

x.com/AndrewHammel1/status/1921845009675956372

The question is if!
The immigration issue in Germany is too good a performer to be taken off the table completely,
at least for the time being.

Turkey might well play a decisive role as to whether the EU will let her
become a member state!
And that's not "gobbling", przelotnyptak, it's a serious statement.

How?

The police appeared at "our" border crossing for the first time in years.

...and did what?