Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany?

What is the upper limit on migrants in Germany?

Also...if you recall...How did you tell German government to let any of them in?

Did you call them? Email? A referendum?

Great post!


Love it!!!


????? No,intelligent migrants don't want to go to Russia......


There is no disbelief in the UK at all, we all saw this coming.

The three main points of European and American politics now are Immigration.Immigration and Immigration.

No. Illegal scum invasion, illegal scum invasion, illegal scum invasion...

Not that much success since they've got 4% of local councillors and 0.8% of MPs.

The unusual electoral system there makes it difficult for them. That and basic human decency; even staunch Conservatives in some areas were tactically voting Labour in the local elections to keep them out. It's worth mentioning that the one thing they won, a byelection, was won by only 6 votes. That despite the previous MP having to resign after being jailed for beating up a constituent in the street. It was an easy election for them, however they only scraped in by a majority of 6 voters.


Not in mine. Most of the media were saying that they'd win it easily; in fact they lost it badly.

This is the current make up of local councillors. It's worth mentioning that not every district has elections every year..

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Better try to avoid the mocking and downtalking again, Jon....

That all reminds me mightily at the whole Brexit-Chaos....Farage started so tiny...a mocked outsider, nobody "serious" took him seriously in the beginning....but he got only bigger and bigger and bigger till he won in the End.

I can't help thinking this one follows the same pattern....

PS: It seems these so called populists everywhere keep winning with exact these patterns....(and the so called "serious people" have only to blame themselves!)

What "mocking and downtalking"?

Fascists do not deserve respect.


Which has actually turned out rather well.


And still is, given last week's election results.


Huge PR by turds who make money from market volatility. Fortunately it didn't work.

Farage - anti Islam


Farage - anti EU

You are confusing Jon....but hey, that might turn out rather well also, give him a chance! :)

This is a big problem.... the disconnect between the political establishment and chattering classes who are not directly affected by terrible policies that please the political establishment and chattering classes.

From what I understand, although Merz and party ran on tightening up against current 'asylum' and 'refugee' policies* to put together a coalition Merz had to give u on pretty much everything there and nothing will actually change....

I think this 'report' is just an attempted end run around citizen dissatisfaction and AfD will, in fact, continue to grow until it is either the largest party or is banned (what happens then is anyone's guess... my guess is mostly nothing until economic collapse a few years out).

*in scare quotes because probably over 90% of those claiming refugee status or asylum do not meet the minimum requirements for either. but once in Germany they'll end up staying, getting money from the government while contributing nothing...

...that seems to be same for all our western countries right now!


In this new gov nobody expects much from the left SPD, and her rival, "Die Linke", is by far not strong enough to be a real threat, and "Die Grünen" just lost to much of former public support....but it's more or less the last chance for the CDU, or her rival the "AfD" will take over her place in the political landscape of Germany with even more lotsa former CDU-voter!

So Merz HAS to deliver....the next 100 days will show!


...this "report" could very well be the end of any further career Mrs. Faeser planned. What she did just doesn't look smart....

Quite. He does not deserve respect if he uses bigoted concepts to malign millions of people. The leader of his party, Zia Hussein, deserves even less.

It's worth mentioning that Faraj's core votes are in places where the number of Muslims (or buildings, infrastructure, culture) is vanishingly small, like Lincolnshire.


The idea of leaving that trade bloc long predates that turd Faraj and those who voted to leave fall across the political spectrum.


Can you think of a fascist regime that has "turned out well". As I recall, your own fascist leader blew his brains out in a bunker, Italy's ended up swinging from a lamppost and Spain's fascist regime collapsed completely as soon as the dictator dies. I

Can you think of a socialist regime that has turned out well?

If one gets another and third and fourth chance, the other should too, no? ;)


...ooooh...now I get it....*slaps forehead* :)

Yours is a mixed socialist and capitalist one and mine is too. Both countries are pretty decent to live in.


Probably the origin of the surname, North Africa via France.

It really isn't though, is it.. Unless Bismarck was a socialist.

It is not about basic human decency. Brits are used to their way, and it takes a lot to make them vote for new parties.
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That is a typical strategy of so-called liberals/progressives. The next step is to talk about fascism and racism.
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German progressives are leading Germany into a really big collapse by denying reality and pursuing unachievable, impractical goals. If their economy collapses, and they are left with millions of Muslim doctors who will be cut off from benefits, I don't even want to think what could happen. I guess Poland will need to take in some German refugees.
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Wow......just in.....Merz not voted to Chancellor!!!! O_O

Failure! CDU leader Friedrich Merz failed to secure the required majority in the Bundestag in the first round of voting - and will no longer be chancellor today.

316 YES votes were required. But the result was different: 310 MPs voted YES, 307 NO, there were three abstentions, and one invalid vote.

Merz was six votes short of a majority.A historic defeat!

bild.de/politik/inland/friedrich-merz-erreicht-keine-mehrheit-liveticker-zur-kanzlerwahl-680e424c7ebb0418fb752600

This voting was actually only a formality....and now Germany is rudderless....the old Chancellor got his great farewell yesterday.....

It's been that way for at least 10 years with no leadership concerned about what the public wants....

Interesting takes here:

tldr: secret ballot means no one knows who scuppered this or what they want: two possible outcolmes are early elections or an SPD/Greens/Linke minority government (who cares what German citizens want?)

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Yet they riding high in the polls and had a remarkeable success in the local elections.

google.com/amp/s/bbc.com/news/articles/cp8jdr6ylzjo.amp

It is evident that Farage is benefiting from the unpopularity of both Labour and the Tories, quite like in Germany with the SPD and CDU losing votes to the AfD.

The man has been caught in many scandals, looked poorly in many public debates, and is with Brexit responsible for the biggest disaster in British history since WWII. It should be plain to see that this man should never have political power. Yet more and more people are considering to vote for him.

That is how the AfD looks like to many.

For the same reasons.... the political establishment is unable/unwilling to stem the flow of parasitic migrants who suckle at the taxpayer teat while giving nothing in return... (or who turn to crime).

Fortunately our FPTP means that this is largely irrelevant.


They very much did not. Only a few local authorities had elections in 2025 and Norfolk, Lincolnshire and East Yorkshire, home of the 'Turnip Taliban' and all sparsely populated were among them. In the few urban areas to have local elections they did poorly.


What 'disaster'?? It's actually turned out rather well.


WW2 was a disaster for you, since you started a war you could never win. For us, we won, and our victory over you ushered in a period of decolonisation, of rationalisation of industry, of breaking down class divisions, and gave us the National Health Service.

What makes AfD "extreme"?

Anybody?

Not liking muslims! "Disregarding human dignity" is enough to be banned in Germany (at least in the eyes of some)....


tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/afd-verfassungsschutz-rechtsextremismus-100.html

...as opposed to azzfvckers and other LGBTFUCK perverts...They deserve their own flag, pride parades, and a country...

Oops ... they don't want a country...As biological parasites, they need a host. Sorry...

What's wrong with fascists? Do they commit crimes?

Exactly! Leftists can demand revolution and openly call for radicalism to change the society....it's all okay....

Maybe they really should start the legal proceedings for a ban and the real Verfassungsgericht will show them all how ridiculous that is.
If the gov truly has nothing else but strong opinions about muslims that is no way that the AfD will be banned for this alone...

But hey....in other news....we now at least have a new Chancellor....if this new gov holds longer than a year needs to be seen though!

Defending everything your country against all evidence (and indeed the views of most British people at this point) did on principle is kinda boring. It is ok to admit that Brexit was a stupid decision. Something every expert warned about, yet people voted for it. If the AfD ends up elected, nobody will be able to complain that nobody had warned about them.


I just didn't want to compare the consequences of Brexit with a war. As bad as it turned out to be, the suffering is quite on a different scale. Maybe Suez would have been a better comparison? Though again people died there as well.


Calling migrants "Messermänner" seems more than a strong opinion to me.

So, inviting a horde of Muslims to Germany without citizens' consent was not "extreme".

Wanting a horde of Muslims out of Germany is "extreme".

Did I get it right?


Is it illegal to express this opinion on the internet in Germany?

Hey, Tacitus, did your Ministry of Permissible Feelings publish a list of what one can feel and express on the internet?

For example...

I hate Muslim migrants.

Is this legal in Germany?

Also:

I hate fascists.

It really is; unless their general hospitals are for-profit, if they don't have a good welfare system and if none of their infrastructure or industry is publicly owned. Bismarck is an irrelevance. Dead for decades and good that he's dead.


The evidence is that the economy didn't crash, food didn't disappear from the shops, London is still the main city in Europe and the main financial hub (despite attempts during the EU years by other countries to poach that and that a hostile trade bloc is no longer able to prevent nationalisation that is happening for the good of the country in a several sectors right now.


"Bad" how? What "suffering" are you trying to pretend has occurred? Is it in the room with you now?

...at the top of Russia's target list...

My advice to the Brits is to STFU and leave adult matters to the adults. This means the US and Russia.

Did you know that London has more mosques than Mecca?

You can google it if you don't believe me.

I mention it only because so many Americans died believing that defending you they were defending something worth their sacrifice.

The UK is today poorer than it would be if it had remained in the EU, with the Brexiteers promising the opposite. Even the city suffered unnecessary losses, If you want to pretend that Brexit was a success because it just diminished economic growth instead of outright crashing the economy, then so be it.

london.gov.uk/new-report-reveals-uk-economy-almost-ps140billion-smaller-because-brexit

It is obvious that it was a poor decision with predictably negative consequences for both sides. It weakened the UK and the EU, and left both sides more vulnerable to hostile actors, be it Trump or Putin. A tragic mistake we all have to live with.