Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany?

Hey, moron, if you feel that AfD is bad for Germany, explain why instead of asking moronic questions.

No point, they won't win anyway.

I was right, there will be a coalition of CDU/CSU and SPD. Bravo Germany. The whole world is full of admiration.

Sounds like a recipe for stagnation.... Merz is making a lot of the right noises but SPD is going to be wrecking ball about defense and probably migration.... at least the Greens won't be able to poison energy policy any more....

Unless there are changes in migration and energy policy that people can observe... then you're headed to situation where AfD wins outright (don't say that can't happen ook at Hungary).

God save us from this. Naturally, the new government must fulfill its election promises. At least a little bit

You can't. If you could, you would.

To begin with, Merz must form a coalition.

The new reality is that the so-called "grand coalition" is actually an agreement with the AfD. 😉

A small coalition, an agreement with the SPD is "premeditated suicide" for the SPD itself. They have a very bad trend, and if they continue like this Die Linke will eat them alive (they now have SW even more to the left than them, so they can move a little towards the center).

The third option is to form a minority government with the Greens 🤦

All in all - a pyrrhic victory for Merz.

You are not right at all. Thanks to the fact that the FDP and BSW did not enter the Bundestag, the AFD, despite 20% support, was left with only the role of a donkey in a donkey's bench. All laws can be passed without their consent. Because uselessness destroys, so too will the AfD fall in the next elections to 15 or even 10%. What are you waiting for, Russian trolls??? Get to work.

Milica Đurđević Stamenkovski at the final AfD convention, the whole hall applauds the statement that Kosovo and Metohija are part of Serbia.

From the day after tomorrow, the Alternative for Germany (AfD) will be the second strongest party in the German Bundestag, which is happening for the first time since 1949. Its co-president supports the withdrawal of recognition of the independence of "Kosovo", and many AfD MPs apologized for Germany's participation in the NATO aggression and supported the Serbs.

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Do German governments have a history of doing that?

He can't!

That can only the new gov achieve.....they f****ck it up (again) and the AfD is the next big thing in Germany!

(In the East they already are)


That is not carved in stone already. The next weeks and months will tell!

IMHO both is possible....he will disappoint allies and adversaries and new elections soon it is.....or....he grows some balls and re-directs the country onto a healthier path, as everybody and his grandmom expects him to!

75:25 chances 🤔

Hey, Alien, would you vote for Trump or Kamala if you could vote here?

The best outcome for them....delivered as wished!

1.) Now 152 seats in the parliament (bevor 63!)

2.) Weidel is now leader of the opposition! (Lotsa more rights, money and attention! For example she is now allowed to speak directly as second after Merz in important disputes!)

3.) Now allowed more insights, seats and even leadership of important boards and control committees!!!!
(For example even in the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution!)

You will now see and hear alot more of her....at the end oft this periode will probably stay the definite acceptance of the party, with being a viable coalition option after the next great election....the path is clear!

Now the other outcome, being part of the new gov already now....and being blamed for all its upcoming failures and difficulties...she would surely lose some of her glamour and with its votes and support!

And yet no one wants to have anything to do with them.

Who is no one?

On communal level they are already working over party-limits, they are there to big to ignore already (especially in the East).....and again....in maybe 4 more years as opposition leaders with the AfD on all monitors, in all talk shows etc. just as part of the normal daily politics....what do you think will happen?

At the communal level, there was even cooperation with the NPD and the Republicans.

Merz' victory says a great deal though about Germany's shift towards the Center,
if not the Right. Thankfully though, not the far right, at least as yet.

Merkel destroyed the Right....the AfD got yesterday over a million votes from former non-voters, most probably ex-CDU voter who left the CDU under Merkel! (That's why the electoral turnout was such a record high this time)

Merz has now the monster job to lead the CDU back to her used place, to reclaim the conservative/right voice and voters....

If he doesn't achieve that then the AfD will overtake this role and with it the remains of the CDU!

It depends on what life situation I would be in. This time, too, it was not easy for me to decide in Germany. I made the decision only 5 minutes before the elections, while driving to the polling station.

It's sad that neo-nazis got those votes in east Germany. Perhaps reunification was a mistake as so many people, Thatcher for ecample, said it would be

The rest of Europe needs no watch them very carefully; especially since there's little holding them back from getting close to r*SSia and trumpet.

Perhaps there'll be demonstrations and riots there; not unusual, especially in West Berlin.

Entirely due to failure of the German political establishment which is alienated from voter concerns and stuck in failed policies with no idea how to move forward.

the russia connection is the worst aspect of them, but again... had mainstream German parties not scr3wed the p00ch so badly they wouldn't be the second biggest party....

hey mafkeis can u plkease answer my question last one or last message in the random forum section here?

Faceless bureaucrats however that is preferable to charismatic politicians. Especially there.

The main issue is that they were arrogant about the economy and expected unrealistic growth rather than decline. Merging two countries was never going to be easy, especially when one of them was East Germany.

....and they say the conservatives are always the ones with the teary nostalgia for the past! :)

If the left doesn't come up with a new, better vision for the future they will never win an election again!

More a nostalgia for a past that never existed. That and an "I'm alright Jack" attitude and a desire to enrich themselves at the expense of others.


They haven't won one for years in Germany as far as I know. The party that Scholz is in is close to centre-right.

Really there needs to be a robust workers¡ movement there. Without it, there's messes like the current one and a fast declining economy. It will be a difficult time there u til the next election.

Na ja....you could call the AfD now as this workers movement, as most of these workers now vote for the AfD, their "middle finger" to the establishment....a revolution from the Right, if you so want!

It will be YEARS till there is a mood for change from the left again....

You really couldn't. Unless one of their policies is that workers get the full fruits of their labour rather than investors. They're old fashioned fascists, basically neo-nazis.

Getting 20% of the vote in a difficult election during a time of economic decline is not a revolution of any sort. In fact it's rather banal and reactionary.

I notice that their votes are particularly in east Germany, basically a place with a tradition of authoritarianism.

We can expect the demonstrations etc from decent people to quite big ones anyway. If the afd had done well, for sure there would be riots.

Okay....calling them that and treating them like that, won't get you their votes back, ever!

So what now?

'You'?

It's the Germans who suffer from having them as an opposition party in their parliament. However, as I say, there will be resistance to them from decent people.

Neo-nazis? That is what they are, like it or not.

....yeah....you know what I mean....the german middle/left.....okay.....