Polish Parliamentary Elections 2023

Because they don't do it. Believe, girls are not born with the knowledge how to cook, clean etc. We learn. Do you want to tell me that an adult man is not capable of distinguish, vacuuming and following a recipe?


It doesn't have to be but more and more women decide that they don't like that division. Plus unless a women is not working at all it makes it u fair.

Why not? It is better for your children if you don't work and have plenty of time to take care of them, your home and your spouce. If you are not lazy and do it right that good for everyone.


Really? I guess you would work some minimum full time. No, you need to provide it means you need to bring enough money to support your hausehold including your hubby. Think three time longer or three times harder, and so on.... I doubt you really want that. It just the grass is greener on the other side of the fence scenario..


Men for the most part do their chores, and women do not want men not to work but stay at home.
What women are talking about really, is a scenario when their men do chores and help out and genrally are F sidekicks to women at home ON THE TOP of working and providing.

Why would any man agree to be bossed around by someone they support?
Do you have to do heavy lifting yourself?, some DIY around the hause?
Women do their part for which they are better syuited and men do the same...what the problem? Are you not a family that should support each other?

Why listen to some crazy femnist hags they are jealous of you, and what you got?
Then women are surised if men think they are not that bright.

That's a cop out. You don't need a degree to turn on the vacuum or pick up a duster and polish.


Because if both parents are working it hardly seems fair to expect one person to do all the household chores.


Many women are already doing this.

Financial independence, not being able to stay at home completely for more than about 1-1.5 year, enjoying working. Hating being solely responsible for house chores. Need more?


Sorry but what do you mean?


I enjoy DYI. Give me a flat pack and I'm happy.

And the crazy feminist tell me exactly what I feel myself- that I don't have to stay at home or be solely responsible for house chores. That there can be balance.

@Paulina, @Lenka, @Feniks

You know what, guys? I was thinking about all that yesterday, I talked to my wife, and I have to say that not everything you wrote was complete and utter nonsense. I shall, therefore, reduce my working hours (a little!) and spend more time with my family.

I think I might be the first case in Internet history of somebody actually being convinced about something on a forum. :)

We'll keep in touch - I'll still check out co się tutaj odwala every now and then. Thanks for all the advice.

P.S. I'm still not doing any cooking. That's not even negotiable.

It's a pity because men often cook better.

Great:)
Enjoy your family :)

I expected talking to a woman about those issues that it will shift from general talk about what good what bad and what better. Into all about YOU.

Women issues are only a proxy. for the most part I think you don't know you are talking about unaware of the consequences in female male realtionships.

YOUR issues should and could be solved on your indvidual level. It means if you ask me, talk to your partner and sove it all there....it is that simple. If you can't that is your problem not women problem,

You need to appreciate your partner more and you need to at least trust him. What you said about financial independece indicates you don't trust him.

Women have all those privilages becasue in theory they are the one that can have children and it is all done to lessen your burden of that.

However feminist, politicians and all horde since women got right to vote are trying to sell you crap.
A lot of women are buying into that crap. That is what I'm talking about...
wise up!

Holy sh1t... I thought she's much younger than this... You don't have much time left of her being a kid then... Use this time well...


That's amazing, I'm happy for your family, especially for the kids :)))


You wouldn't have time for that with those working hours anyway :P Better focus on your kids...

Just a thought - you could do some family cooking on the weekend sometimes though, all four of you - it could be fun and some bonding time with the kids and happy memories for them :) I still remember how me and my brother were helping our parents to chop veggies for sałatka jarzynowa and helping with making cakes for Christmas. (Sorry for writing about such obvious things, but I get the impression that parents are often oblivious to the most obvious things...)

I meant only the part about working minimum full time.


Trust him that he doesn't get sick or die?

Please show me the post where I said 'we'? I usually refer to women as 'they'. For example:


Otherwise, I use the word 'I' referring to my own experience.


When have I ever suggested that men are lacking? When have I ever whined? Show me the posts.

I'm not a bitter or angry person - though you certainly sound like one. I'm a happy, well balanced person and if anything, I'm a rather old-fashioned sort of woman.

Here is an example of my knitting. The doll I've had since childhood, the dress I knitted recently. I made the handbag too! Always loved my dolls :) And also a picture of a lovely cake I baked at Christmas :) with my childhood dolls' house in the background. Actually I bought that one myself when I was a teenager. I had a different one when I was a kid that I took over from my sister.

It's shocking isn't it, the depths of depraved, radical feminism .........., what is the world coming to when women are knitting and baking? Have they no shame??

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Trust him, on all levels that what trust indicates. You obviuosly don't not trust him and do not think about him well enough to do that.

Do your chores and don't be lazy. Don't overstimate what you actually bring to the table.


Ok, a little attention on you now. uff!
Look if never wrote 'we' talking about women issues, I take it back, can't be ar'st to check it up! Is not that important anyways. What I'm talking about is an attitude of many women who pretented not to see or more oft they don't not see that all those feminist movements at least for the last 40 years are more about war on men and a family than about some 'women' rights.

The men just put up with it, while women think that this is ok to pile everything on men and cry how bad they got it. Look here since you are not up the duff all the time with six chidren you need to take care everyday you have plenty of time on your hands, use it wsiely,,,,

0-----That in general! Fed up with stupidity and so called women rights and issues, the only issue you really have is that lost of you are too dumb to know what important and you listen to some strange crazy women feeding you crap about men and life in general.

As for you, I don't know you, if you say you are not feminist and progressive, that is good enough for me.
So what your point really? You would like to talk about yourslef and your take in life, be my guest, you just need to make it clear - what it is we are talking about...

If you prefer general subject or talk about ideas and idolgies (that what I like) we can do that too.
I'm not bitter, I'm not young anymore but I still have a temper and zero tolerance for fools and liars.
Why you aways want to regulate and control people posting here? It is not a social situation, it is PF.

Why should I be nice to somone who talk BS and waste my time and can't even debate right..(not talking about you, I remember that you can do it well) On the other hand you like to preach or lecture. I'm too old to listen to lectures, sorry!

Let`s disclose our predictions 20 something days before the elections:

PIS: 33%
Tusk`s KO - 31%
Left - 9%
Hołownia&PSL - 9%
Konfederacja - 8%

and the opposition creates a gov and PIS has to hire really good Jewish lawyers to avoid imprisonment for all their crimes. :):):)

Very close,but all my village relatives are for PIS.I do suspect they might win with coalition.

Shocking stuff altogether where do we go from here? Still in the meantime we can have cake I guess...

More power to your elbow Atch

The March of Million Hearts was organised by Donal Tusk and company in Warsaw and other cities in Poland. They claim 1 million people attended in Warsaw alone. People who reject PiS rule which has been ruining Poland for 8 years.

The banner in the photo below: PiS equals communists. How true! I lived in communist times and now under PiS I have been getting dejavu.

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This million plus was in whole Poland. Independent journalists estimate 600.000 - 800.000 people demonstrated in Warsaw. Still such figures make it the biggest political demonstration in the world this year or even decade. Amasing.

Goddess bless you, Mr Honourable Donald Tusk, the Saviour of Poland who will cure us of PIS gangrene.

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Hope dies last.

Regardless of KO being a liberal party with leftist leanings, and questionable views on abortion for example, I deeply believe that in the current situation - knowing all that we already know about PiS - the opposition's victory would be truly beneficial for Poland. I hope more people like me - Christians of deeply conservative views - will find it in their hearts and consciences to vote against their personal worldview preferences but for the greater good of our beloved country.

The opposition made a huge mistake of not going to these elections as a single block, and this mistake may cost them dearly, but let's keep our fingers crossed for them. PiS staying in power would be a very bad scenario for Poland.

Yes, but don`t forget they weren`t always so and it is PiS which made them lean to the left in such issues as abortion.


That is your private opinion to which you have the right. While thousands if not million women consider abortion one of their basic rights. I hope they will express their opinion on it on the election day.


Yes, those gangsters are such scum they are ready to burn Poland in order to remain in power coz when they lose it, they will answer for all their crimes.

I love the smell of desperation in the morning! Why not vote your favourite agrarian party PSL now? Do you want them to be out of the Parliament and PiS to have a constitution changing majority?


Stupid opinion. How would the views of PSL and Lewica be aligned in a single block, it would just decrease opposition voter interest.

@alien
Did you register to vote on since you are a resident of germany? ewybory.msz.gov.pl/nowa-rejestracja

Unfortunately no, but if I did it, I wouldn't vote for PiS just as I won't vote for AfD.

Of course not. The point of a democracy is you have free vote. Anyway still plenty of time to register just need current polish id

I do not have a valid Polish ID. Thanks to common Europe, it has not been needed so far.

From another thread:


Sorry, but I'm not following the campaign that close, so you'd have to give me examples coming from the PO side (I know the usual crap coming from the PiS side, so you don't have to tell me about it lol).

I'm not following it that closely either but when I'm trying to enjoy my YouTube viewing campaign ads keep popping up. Utter nonsense from PIS such eg. actors playing 'ordinary folk' looking disgruntled and saying things like 'last time Tusk was PM I lost my job' as if nobody has lost a job under PIS. From the PO side we have ridiculing of Kaczynski, taking clips of him and messing with them to make him look even more of an old codger than he is with the voiceover 'Dwarves are running the country'. It's stuff for a satirical comedy show, not a serious political campaign.

There is a huge difference. PiS runs their dirty campaign in state media they captured long ago and turned into their propaganda tube, while the opposition uses the internet, coz independent media are too serious for funny clips and mockery of Kaczyński.

That is why you should add more balance to your statement about plenty of mud-slinging and childish lampooning going on from both sides in the present electoral campaign.

Hilarious PiS ad..... the message is "Polish people hate working" I mean they. hate. working.....

But given the demographic situation the retirement age will have to be raised so this is just.... anyone who believes or falls for it is an idiot.

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A healthy sign of a competitive election.Survival of the fittest.
I am voting PIS,you O me beer lol and no Pi.ss in it llike Id serve to a brit lol.

Your vote won`t help them win. :):):) Tusk the Saviour will.