Why is no one on here talking about the man killed by the Police in Lubin?

A man died while the police was trying to arrest him in Poland but no one on here seems to give a ****.

Arrests should not be done by "trying". "Trying" means that the idiot went ghetto on them and decided to fight.
OK, Polish girl, what did the cops do wrong? I am assuming that the dead guy was a Ph.D. in philosophy on the way to a seminar.

What time of day or night was the arrest and was the guy drunk and have a weapon and resisting ?

I can't put my finger on it but for some strange reason my respect for Polish cops went up. Hmm...

People here aren't talking about many things that are happening in Poland...

washingtonpost.com/world/protesters-attack-polish-police-after-mans-death-in-custody/2021/08/08/f95ad900-f887-11eb-911c-524bc8b68f17_story.html

The police claim that the man died on his way to the hospital. The medical rescue workers say that he was already dead when they arrived. The medical personel at ER at the hospital where he was taken say that he had a crushed larynx and so he suffocated (he was already dead when he arrived). According to the official autopsy the cause of death is "unknown". According to the witnesses the police had problems with handling that guy and they were very brutal. The new video that the family got lately is showing that one of the cops kneeled on their sons throat. So they decided to have a private autopsy... abroad. Results in two weeks time.

It looks like the police is lying and there's some subterfuge going on...

"The police claim that the man died on his way to the hospital."

Ah sorry, my mistake, it's even better - the police claims that he died two hours after he arrived at the hospital.

Btw, it isn't a daily occurence for Polish people to attack a police station...

Here's a video showing the riots and a fragment where the man in question is screaming: "They're going to kill me!":

youtu.be/Iba4D5g_CPM

Probably because most people on here don't live in Poland.

@Milo, the funny thing though is that this forum is about Poland... lol Just saying...

You are absolutely right, but this is a Polania forum hosted in America.

And does not really have too much to do with real Polish opinions

The only thing I want to know is if he hit a cop or was just reading poetry.

Including you. One sentence in your own thread?

Actually, 3 deaths of young men at the hands of local police took place in the Lower Silesia region recently. The police force there is said to be especially brutal. The reason is simple - our rightist rulers have spread a protective umbrella over them - PiS needs brutal police to deal with potential protests against their corrupt rule.

@pawian
Really?
So Polish police are so stupid that they need PIS to legitimise how they operate?
What a stupid, ill informed and ignorant thing to say!

@Milo, you don't live in Poland and I'm afraid you don't know what pawian is talking about...

So, educate me..... :-)

After that infantile overreaction of yours no decent Pole will even try to educate you. It is a waste of time while life is too short. :):)

There were some articles about it, for now I've found this:

polityka.pl/tygodnikpolityka/kraj/2134304,1,granice-w-panstwie-pis-policja-wciaz-atakuje.read

lol polityka, onet - what a reliable sources you have found. gee

And it will get worse before it gets better, sadly.


Both considered vastly more reliable than the international joke that is TVPiS.

Nobody was ever beaten or shot for just standing there and saying, yes, officer.

zactly Novichok - the man was on drugs as far as I know, and wouldn't obey the police orders - **** happens sometimes (I doubt anyone in their right mind think they meant to kill the guy)

So he deserved what he got,sometimes cops have to use force or these guys on drugs become very violent and have to be subdued,he might even become a danger to oyhers and himself and the cops are in front of the line.

the police were called because the guy started throwing rocks at windows according to the article I linked

There wasn't any mention of that in any of the articles that I've read. It was mentioned that according to the police officers he was agitated and agressive, but there was no information about any attack or injuries sustained by the cops.

What's more, the police lied that the guy had no injuries, which was cotradicted by both the paramedics and the hospital.


Even if they didn't it isn't OK for them to kill someone "accidentally" like that. There were 4 cops and one guy with no weapon - they should be able to subdue one guy without killing him:

wroclaw.wp.pl/lubin-rodzina-zmarlego-34-latka-pokazala-nowe-nagranie-widac-na-nim-jak-policjant-ugniata-glowe-bartka-6674001177676448a


The police were called by the guy's family. His father said that he had thrown a small rock at his grandma's window.

Another family member said that it wasn't the first time he behaved like that - he was addicted. They tried to find help for him, but he was always sent home.


And what sources do you consider to be raliable? TVPiS? lol TV Republika? lol You see, I can "lol" too :)

Then how about a real expert? A guy who trained police officers and was the commander of the one of the biggest Police Training Centres in Poland (in Legionowo)? I think this is a pretty balanced interview with him and thorough - he mentions all kinds of problems that the police has these days and talks about all those controversial police intervensions that ended with death. It's worth reading, imho:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/piotr-calinski-policja-bedzie-gorzej-oceniana-niz-biskupi-tuszujacy-pedofilie-6684210086308352a

@gumishu, as for that article from Rzeczpospolita you linked to (which ended up in Random), I agree that both the police officers and the paramedics should try to resuscitate him, which they failed to do.


How can you write something like that? And how do you know that he did? It always amazes me how little right-wingers value human life (unless it's the life of the unborn lol).

Keep to minimum quotes please

When the case of a man shot in Lubin is that well known, your cops are angels.

Any source you can find. even polsat but if your main dsocurcer of information is either politika or onet you are in a deep hole and there is no hope for you.

@Ironside, I have no "main" source of information. Now, did you get out of your "deep hole" and bothered to read the interview I linked to in my previous post?

Really?

Yes, really. Name one.
Every cop I met was nicer than all the people I met before him.

Angels really, aren't they.

Competent too. That time a cop a few years back in Lódż was meant to load the guns with rubber bullets but mixed in some real ones by mistake is just a fairytale.