Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees?

Even if Lyzko had such conversation it doesn't mean that the observation was correct. If my friend tells me that Germans host Martians in their bathrooms it doesn't make it true, does it?

Thank you, Bobko!

I can only respond by admitting that many conversations I've had with those in question from Poland, Russia, and Ukraine, (all women, by the way) were conducted under the influence of alcohol, i.e. wodka, if only to elicit the truth under circumstances in which someone might well choose to BS their way through, rather than reveal their heart.

Remember that old saying, "Drunkards, like children, always tell the truth."

@Lenka, like Paulina, you refuse to admit the possibility of what I'm saying as the truth, simply because you are a contrarian.

You started well enough, but ended as usual.

Your comments say more about how you like to spend your free time, than how many of our women are prostitutes.

Not all women.

Children make up stories and drunks tell incredible stories.

No, I refused it based on my experience of living in Poland among those women.

You keep repeating this, but didn't you notice that you yourself refuse to admit even the possibility that what we're saying is the truth and that you may be actually wrong in drawing such far-reaching conclusions from anecdotal evidence and taking at face value what a bunch of drunk women told you?

Lyzko, why are you so convinced that it is you who is right? Where is this unwavering certainty coming from?

The moment when you wrote that people had to bribe officials and women had to prostitute themselves in order to "survive" during communist times in Poland, I knew you have no knowledge about the reality and what life looked like during communist times in Poland. It's not just about Polish women or exchanging sex for something, but it looks like you have some serious misconceptions about life in communist countries in general. Life in PRL wasn't that bad. It was sh1tty if you compare it to life in the West, obviously, but it really wasn't that bad. It's not my subjective opinion, it's a historical fact. You'd know that if you bothered to do some research and talk to Poles who were living during those times. It looks like you didn't, because if you did, you simply wouldn't make such claims.

Also, it's not only me and Lenka that disagree with you. Men don't agree with you either.


First of all, I don't know what "anecdotal claims" are. I only know what "anecdotal evidence" is. That's all Lyzko has - anecdotal evidence. And he's drawing conclusions about Polish women and the reality of communist times in Poland just based on this anecdotal evidence. In a pretty arrogant way at that. I wouldn't mind if all he did was sharing that anecdotal evidence ("Those drunk women told me this and that. What do you think about this? Is it true?"). But he's drawing some wild conclusions based on that anecdotal evidence and he's making claims based on that anecdotal evidence. And since I know that what he claims is not true, I'm challenging him to back up his claims with something more than that anecdotal evidence.


Yes, of course. I'd go further with that though, because I don't even believe that anecdotal evidence from Lyzko. Why? Because I "know" Lyzko long enough and I know how he's capable of drawing some wild, crazy, messed up conclusions from the conservations and people's behaviour in real life. So I simply don't trust his "reporting". Because those women could say one thing and it could grow into something else in his head.

This is why I asked him those "simple questions".

Earlier you might think that Lyzko had some serious, deep conversations with numerous, various "anti-Communist defectors" about life in communist Poland. Now it turns out that he "elicited" some answers from a bunch of drunk women and took them at face value lol Who knows what more we will find out if I keep digging? :)

I'm no more incapable of admitting that I'm wrong than you are of admitting that you too can be mistaken, Paulina!

DIscussion is always a two-way street. Ya can't deal with that, get off the cross walk!

My formulations are only as "messed up" as you choose them to be. You're arguments are quite simply fallacious; if you don't agree with something the other person is arguing, then THEY and they alone must be wrong.

For every nay-sayer, there are those who will agree:-)

It doesn't seem like it, to be honest. You seem to be very stubborn and arrogant. Maybe also prejudiced.


Lyzko, please notice that I am not the only person that disagrees with you in this thread :)

The following people disagreed with you, beside me: Lenka, mafketis, Alien, Bobko, Novichok, Ironside, johnny_reb.

Me and Lenka are both Polish women, born and raised in Poland, surrounded by people who experienced communist times in Poland first-hand. I'm going to repeat it again: first-hand experience. We know more Poles who were born and raised in communist Poland than you will ever meet in your lifetime. Novichok and Ironside are both "defectors" that left Poland during communist times. Mafketis has been living in Poland for years. Alien is Polish and Bobko is RuSSian, while you are a Jewish guy born and raised in the US, who clearly has no clue about the reality of the communist Poland and yet you behave like you know better than us.

Is that the case? Do you actually think that you know more about life in communist Poland than Poles living in Poland??


Where are they, Lyzko? Why noone agreed with your claims in this thread?

And why didn't you answer my 4 simple questions that I posted here?:

https://polishforums.com/life/women-promiscuous-towards-foreigners-refugees-81405/4/#msg1918515

Good question.

As a Russian, I got exposed to more "Your women are prostitutes", than any Pole can hope to experience in his life. This truly pisses me off.

Truth hurts but still its the truth.
In the state of NJ nudity is not allowed where alcohol is served so I did own a topless bar near the Liq store I had as all the customers buy alcohol and mix in there non alcoholic drinks served there unofficially or iuse the airplane bottles in the bathroom,90% of my dancers were from Russia or ex russian countries and were doing side business with the customers in the topless juice bar:)

Do you honestly believe that all RuSSian women are prostitutes?


When was that?


So?

Most money hungry ones are.


1999 to 2002


So most coming outta rooski land are,ask the people is South east Asia and middle east also.

LOL Why?Are/were you looking for work??LOLOLOL

Sorry I quoted wrongly my third answer was to your "So"

I know everything but I would never admit to being an expert on prostitution, child molesting, bank robbing, AIDS treating, trans surgery, or wife beating...

How do you know? Have you ever lived in RuSSia?


No wonder then - the 90's were really bad in RuSSia and I'm guessing in other post-Soviet countries too. Worse than in Poland.


Most women coming from RuSSia are what exactly according to you? Strippers? Prostitutes?

And I don't have to ask people in South East Asia and Middle East. I'm guessing that they have the same stereotypes about RuSSian women as people in the West have about Polish women. And I know where those stereotypes came from and that they don't pertain to the majority of women in any country.

Cuz I have dealt with them.


Been there 3 times and 4th time drove there from Warszawa to Moscow and back with US registered car,was fun with VIP treatment at the border,and Cops.


You are guessing totally wrong then.

Thank you Paulina for your kind defense. However, I am trained in dealing with the pig, and require no assistance.

Pig - here is a lesson in statistics. The population number for those countries which you define as Russian (I'm sure), is about 300 million. So about ten times bigger than Poland. I'm very happy you ran a titty bar, as this completes my psychological portrait of you, but I'm not as certain about your ability to identify a Moldovan from a Ukrainian or Slovak.

The reason, as a Russian, that I feel we get more exposed to "your women are ******", is that all the ****** are assumed to be Russian. Most idiots don't know much Eastern geography beyond Russia. So the size of our country works against us in reverse.

In any case, this sentiment is most often espoused by those sorry little gnomes which could not ever be with a Russian or Polish woman unless they paid them for the pleasure.

How many of them? Do you realise how many RuSSian women there are in RuSSia alone? lol


Brilliant, Lyzko visited Poland for a week or two as well some years ago and he knows all about Polish women and Polish society and Polish history too, as you can see ;D


Could you elaborate?

I'm not taking part in this discussion to assist you - I simply write what I think and know.


Yup, my thoughts exactly.

I reiterate, it's never the length of time one has spent abroad which measures the sharpness of their perception, but the keenness with which they observe their surroundings.

Prejudiced?? I like who's talking, Paulina.

An educated person such as myself clearly has well-researched knowledge about what they are writing/posting and certainly wouldn't be guilty of tortured scribbling and the like except to someone who refuses to admit to even one scintilla of possible veracity in a given statement. Where does a person such as I glean their information? From thin air?!

Your refusal to accept what I've posted is for the umpteenth time the same as if I refused to admit that a majority of Brooklyn slumlords are Jewish. I'm Jewish, but that obviously doesn't make me a slumlord as well.

Paulina is Polish, but does that make her some sort of prostitute merely because she's Polish???
The very statement isn't even worth responding to.

However, it does point to your circular logic.

As opposed to Jewish? Are we back to Poles and Jews again?

Can you simplify it down to 7th grade?

An educated person such as myself clearly has well-researched knowledge about what they are writing/posting and certainly wouldn't be guilty of tortured scribbling and the like except to someone who refuses to admit to even one scintilla of possible veracity in a given statement.

The point I was making is that I've never generalized different nationalities on this or any other forum. Secondly, the meaning of the paragraph is that I would never need to make stuff up which is so plain to any thinking human:-) Often truth really IS stranger than fiction.

Simple enough for you?

Or maybe a simple admission of error would suffice.

Apparently you think it does.... you need to let go of this weird fantasy of the PRL being fueled by women giving sexual favors to officials.... maybe it happened a time or two in a place or two but it was not any kind of general rule...

What about the DDR? Did German women become Huren to get extra egg rations or permission to.... what, exactly? Part of the illogicality of your fantasy is that the PRL just wasn't built in a way that would allow officials to demand sexual favors.

??? Et tu, Maf? Why are you putting words in my mouth which I even persisted in stating I never said? I'm truly surprised and disappointed in you, moreover you apparently don't like to respond to private messages.

Bribing officialdom sexual or other, just like exacting political favors from the Church, is as old as St. Peter himself, so quit playing little bo peep!

This is the stupidest and most insulting thread ever.

Tell it to TheMilfman who began this thread. The truth is out there, pal! You can run, but you can't hide.

I'm sorry that it resurrected because of me. I never thought it would degenerate so much.

It didn't, Alien, so relax.
Any "stereotype" has at least some basis in fact.