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Why are Poles always so miserable? Why do they never smile?


sarah
23 Oct 2006 #121
Wow this thread has got a issue about it which makes it come floating back known again how comes it is only the negative ones that have a tendancy of doing this - everyone tends to try and make the same points over and over again x
Maxxx Payne 1 | 196
23 Oct 2006 #122
I would say that in countries like UK, USA very commercial , money orientated, selfish and inhumane people are much more more lonely and unhappy than in Poland .
And artifical smile means nothing to me. It doesn't mean that soemone is happy or likes you it is just little game, that is all.

I saw less beggars in Krakow than in New York. Poland takes care of it's poor. Maybe it is part of catholicism, I don't know

It amuses me to learn that the Finns are "sociable and open and happy" If that is so why is Finland leader in homicide rates in Europe and number two in suicide rates.

And contrary to common belief: our climate is not that bad. If you can tolerate the cold and snow that is. :) We don't have constant raining during winter, I don't know if the global warming changes that in future...
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554
23 Oct 2006 #123
Poland takes care of it's poor

Hmmmm... have you been to Gdansk lately? There are plenty there.
Maxxx Payne 1 | 196
23 Oct 2006 #124
No I haven't. Is it different from Southern Poland ? Or are they immigrants from nearby Kaliningrad ? I have heard that's quite messed up place...
sarah
24 Oct 2006 #125
Wow this thread has got a issue about it which makes it come floating back known again how comes it is only the negative ones that have a tendancy of doing this - everyone tends to try and make the same points over and over again x
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544
24 Oct 2006 #126
And, here I agree with Lara - the best thing that's been said on this thread - Poles can't accept criticism. (In places like Sweden & Britain - "mature countries" - people accept criticism and think what they can improve about themselves or the state. In Poland you all treat it as a personal attack, which it isn't!). Can't you all just grow up and discuss things maturely without taking it as a personal insult?

I know what you mean Dumbass. I also can't understand how people can take as a personal insult naming them “dumb” or “not human”. It truly remains a mystery for me. :)
sarah
24 Oct 2006 #127
Matyjasz The best thing to do is not to bite with people who critsise and rember it isnt all of us x
rafik 18 | 589
24 Oct 2006 #128
Poles can't accept criticism. (In places like Sweden & Britain - "mature countries" - people accept criticism and think what they can improve about themselves or the state.

soooo many times i noticed that brits push a blame on someone else(usually someone weak and defenceless).why?because they don't want to admit that they've done something wrong>

Mature countries-what does it mean?the countries which have gone through everything like murders,corruption,racism ect and not have a lot of experience? you shouldn't criticise us on this matter as you are not any better

OK, I'll just rephrase my initial question slightly.
It's not just the lack of smiling in Poland, it's the whole Polish psyche that's F+cked up.

i would say exactly the same about quite a few brits i saw and belive me a lot of you folks only smile when drunk(usually from thursday to tuesday).

Very few people in Poland seem to be happy with their lives.

so you are.most of the brits i know are unhappy about their lives.

One symptom is that they're all escaping to GB and Ireland - 1 million and still counting. (Last person out please switch off the lights!) And don't tell me it's just for the money.... A lot of emigrants see no perspectives for themselves in Polska. They see the country as a dead end

you are wrong again.this is the minority of people who think that way.most of us want to come back to poland after a few years.

btw i bet that a few million brits emigrated(a few millions and still counting)to australia,spain,canada ect because they see no perspectives in england

To my mind you can still be poor but happy. Poles are both poor and unhappy.
Where is all the 'joie de vivre' in this country?
Surely it's not just a question of cold climate. The Swedes have a far worse climate, as do the Finns, but in general they're really sociable and open and happy.

i don,t know who you hang around with but a lot of the brits are also poor and unhappy.a lot of them can't even smile cos of the state of their teeth.

i just want to tell you that you see what you want to see.that's all.
stopchatinshit
24 Oct 2006 #129
This topic is total Bullshit, I've been to poland and they are 10 times more friendlier than people here in England.

I can't beleive how much crap people right on this site.
plg 17 | 263
24 Oct 2006 #130
now now children
sarah
25 Oct 2006 #131
stopchatinshitWhat a bloddy name hey?
iwona 12 | 542
25 Oct 2006 #132
i just want to tell you that you see what you want to see.that's all.

Exactly,

I am Polish but have been living here for a few years so I try to be objective about any subjects concerning UK, Poland.... probably similar like you. Some people know very little about Poland, our culture....and just say lots of rubbish which is quite annoying.

I don;t mind sensible criticism but not lots of crap.

And as you said some British people are unhappy, lonely not so rich as it can look so it is always nice to look down at other country from Eastern europe it just make they feel better that is all.

But also lots British people are nice and sensible and write sensible things here.
Hobbitual
25 Oct 2006 #133
I'm English, and I've always been a cynical,miserable Fcuker !

:)
DrCherry
25 Oct 2006 #134
American culture is well-known for artificial over-friendliness and exuberance. People will often tell you what you want to hear to your face.

I think Americans fear confrontation so they're just nice to everybody.

I got hired at an advertising company in Detroit and everyone was very friendly and outgoing on my first day. They talked about how it was like an extended family.

This is known as "blowing sunshine up your ass".

At some point I made a comment about someone else's sloppy work that I was cleaning up and was fired the next morning by someone I'd never met. I guess the sloppy work belonged to the boss.

Of course the boss was not there, in fact the entire staff was absent except for me and the guy who fired me. What a bunch of spineless turds.
PolishForever
25 Oct 2006 #135
Wer just, not media influenced. We dont have to walk around with smiles on our faces just because someone says we should. Thats what I like about. And what do you mean? Im the funniest girl in my class, AND WADDAYA KNOW?! Im polish. AND DAMN PROUD. =)
patrycja
25 Oct 2006 #136
I believe you might be right about confrontation, but only in a job environment.

Detroit is one of the roughest cities along side new york. new york prob being the first
I live near detroit, if you are in the heart of the city you are safe, but go a few blocks
into the city, there isnt anyone afraid of confrontation.
it is sad too, because before 1940's it was booming and full of people.
most of the people who work inside of detroit, are from the outskirts of detroit.
and most people who live in Detroit, work outside detroit because of the city taxes.

what a mess huh? lol

Excuse me, I meant to say into the neighborhoods. just not a good place to be.

and my aunt lived in highland park, this was a notable Polish neighborhood at
one time, but now it is run down and the city is like a war zone.
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544
26 Oct 2006 #137
patrycja So what actually happened there?
sarah
26 Oct 2006 #138
God this thread just seem to go on and on !
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554
26 Oct 2006 #139
I think Americans fear confrontation so they're just nice to everybody.

Fu*k Off :) We aren't nice to everyone. Maybe in the south they display exceptional hospitality. But if you live where I live a look can get your head kicked in.

We dont have to walk around with smiles on our faces just because someone says we should.

And we all don't either. Some people chose to be fake. Let's not make generalization here. I live in NY and I don't smile everyday because some fuc*er on TV say's it's courteous.
Bartolome 2 | 1,085
26 Oct 2006 #140
I'm sparing my smile for better times :)
DrCherry
26 Oct 2006 #141
Excuse me, I meant to say into the neighborhoods. just not a good place to be.

and my aunt lived in highland park, this was a notable Polish neighborhood at
one time, but now it is run down and the city is like a war zone.

First of all there's a big difference between work life and street life. I was referring to work life not public streets.

Still, I disagree. I live in Hamtramck and think it's greatest place on earth. Also, you're mistaken about Highland Park, it was never a notable Polish neighborhood, it was the "rich" area and now the city's bankrupt because of "white flight".
iwona 12 | 542
27 Oct 2006 #142
maybe good answer for this thread title would be....because Polish people have nice, smooth skin and smile gives you wrinkles:)
djtwistter
29 Oct 2006 #143
come on i know thing stupid girl i hate her guts she is form ploand and is a hoe and she is only 15 she says to only white boys in my skl its not fair do still she trys to act inoccent then call then boys to her hosue
patrycja
29 Oct 2006 #144
patrycja So what actually happened there?

Riots, due to the Black Movement, it was at one time a nice small community, but
after wards, People started moving further out, Hamtramak is still notable Polish
community as well as my city, but it is sad that in some areas you have to Lock your
doors while stopped at a red light and hope no one will shoot at your car. or try to
carjack it.
I was told by another friend "genealogists" who lived in Highland park that he used
to go down there by bus to visit family, but they pretty much ran out the local police
and the state Police as well as others were tossing it up in the air about who was
supposed to be there in place of the citys officers. and meantime, people were getting
robbed, killed, he told me and my cousin who had decided one day we would go looking
for records for my aunts family, to just not bother, because you would need a army
tank to pass thru safely. <~that was not good news to hear.

I think now , it is improving, but in any case, alot of run down , drug houses, unsafe
areas there. Sad. was once very Polish Neighborhoods.

never a notable Polish neighborhood, it was the "rich" area and now the city's bankrupt because of "white flight".

PLeaseeeeeeee, my aunt was not rich, and I know the area where she lived was polish
and White Flight happened because of the riots, people didnt want to get killed, and
as of late, I am sure they finally moved in on the area to re-control it due to gangs and
robberies, but, it has been like this for some time as we had some new neighbors who
were from Highland park this was quite some time ago back in say 1980's and so it has
been a bad area for a long time.
my aunt lived there in the 40's when it was a better place, but she was not rich, maybe
they did ok, and yes, Polish did stick together in certain neighborhoods thus
your classic (small Polish community) hmmmmmmmmmmm.

new neighbors who
were from Highland park this was quite some time ago back in say 1980's and so it has
been a bad area for a long time.

oops didnt get to finish, anyway, the younger of the kids who moved next to us, said
hello to me one day, I said it back and asked where they had moved from, not knowing
anything about highland park as I was only a teen, he said, you dont even want to
know about it, put it this way, you walk out on your front porch, you would get shot at!
this was a family who lived there, and might I say, they were not white either!
so it was not just white flight. it was flight from possibly getting shot at while trying
to go to school ,work, robbed, etc.

city's bankrupt <~because the bank probably got robbed over and over and over and over
but we all know the gang leaders probably have some cash they can loan them ehh?

sorry, it was Flight of all colors, they dont know how to keep it safe apparently.
and, if I call 911, I think it should only take two, three minutes to get there Vs
24 hours. sorry, I got my opinion and you got yours Dr Cherry :)

city's bankrupt -is kilpatrick running highland park?? lol.
sorry, but he is not a favorite, and I am sure his whole family is enjoying those
credit cards and new cars.

Dr Cherry, glad to know you are in Hamtramak. Nice Place to visit :)

The bankrupt city of Highland Park, embedded inside Detroit, is ringed by some of the World's richest suburbs. Despite this plethora of wealth, the city's beautiful library has been neglected by the the city (which has no funds) and the state. The budget was so meager as to be obscene.

The roof leaks and no major repairs have been done for over a decade

Neglected by the CITY!!! HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
so was the Police Dept as well as many other educational, and much needed
depts. the suburbs are still rich, <~once again, blame white flight huh? I say
more like the city let it go. you would not see me live in a place where I had to
put on army geer just to get to my car. But I am still upset that it is no longer
what it should have been. Thriving!

Riots, due to the Black Movement

Meant to say civil rights movement. ooopsy. sorry. :)

by the way, I been working over a hundrend hours or more per paycheck so I am entitled to
louse up with a excuse :) lol.
Am tired, but heading to dreamland. nite nite folks.
DrCherry
2 Nov 2006 #145
Riots, due to the Black Movement

I'm sorry but this is possibly the most ignorant statement I've heard in quite some time. The Detroit riots (the first three) were housing riots started by non-blacks.

The third in 1967 was a draft riot started by police busting a blind pig in Detroit.

The 1943 housing riot was started by non-blacks. Black's homes were cleared to build factories and tract housing was built for them. They were afraid to move in though because of pressure from the non-black community.

When the national guard was called in to allow them access to their new homes a riot started.
seachild
14 Nov 2006 #146
Damn! My ancestry is English and I just found out that I may be Polish! I have multiple personalities. :)

Why do I take more pride in knowing that I am Polish???
Is it because, in the face of adversity and opression, that Poles are strong people with pride in their country and culture???? :)
Janf
14 Nov 2006 #147
You have to be careful about this one. In my experience the Poles that left a generation ago are very very different to the poles of today. This is not just the simple generation gap. I put it down to all the false hopes that they have endured since the war.

Poles are generally pesimists thats for sure.
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544
14 Nov 2006 #148
Why do I take more pride in knowing that I am Polish???
Is it because, in the face of adversity and opression, that Poles are strong people with pride in their country and culture????

I think that English people are also strong and take pride in their country and culture when faced by adversary and oppression. If I were you, I would cherish both, your Polish and English roots. :)
seachild
14 Nov 2006 #149
I just wish I could get more information...... If my father hadn't been so old and I so young when he passed, :) I would've gotten more information.

Now, I am resorting to clues and traditions to stir me in the right direction.... :(
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544
14 Nov 2006 #150
You have to be careful about this one. In my experience the Poles that left a generation ago are very very different to the poles of today.

Give them an enemy, and you will see, that they will react just like their forefathers. It has to have something to do with the genes. :)

This is not just the simple generation gap. I put it down to all the false hopes that they have endured since the war.
Poles are generally pesimists thats for sure.

Well, if you would give all you got and sacrifice your youth, health and all the precious things in your life in some cause for nothing, how would you feel? Theoretically Poland was on the “team” that won WWII, but practically we ended up even worse that west Germany, the country that started the whole madness in the first place. So yeah, I can understand why my grandfather became very skeptical after the war.

Poles are generally pesimists thats for sure.

Have you been here around in the 80's? I certainly was, and I perfectly remember that the most frequent answer to the question "How are you doing" was "Lepiej nie pytaj" ("Don't even ask"), while now it's "Powoli" ("Slowly")...Do you see the improvement? I do. :)

Pozdrawiam.

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