Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


It is said faith can be a vice or a virtue; )
A lot of things are said. I find the biggest talkers and thereby the biggest hypocrites are those that claim to have faith, speak or behave as though this makes them "better" than others and not see their own sin in doing so.

Repent Polonius3

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


So a group religious people teach that their elected leader is always right when he speaks about their holy book...okay then.


You state that last part as though it's a fact when it's nothing more than an opinion while conveniently leaving out political, economic and a lack of scientific understanding influences shaping Catholic (and many other religions') teachings.

I'm not saying it's all garbage because I don't know but at least be honest in how you choose to portray what and how Catholicism came to be. Y'know, just to be consistent with what it is you supposedly believe in.

Life / My take on Poland - My Top 10 [31]


100% True.


I honestly believe they don't want to pay the electricity costs during the day and turn the refrigeration units on at night...I can't think of any other scenario:/

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


While most of your post is true, this statement is false. There are exceptional later-life converts.


Very probably true but most people here don't seem to oppose crucifixes on walls however Catholic or not they really are, so?

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


Who has thus far decided what is or isn't a mortal sin?
People.
I have never heard or read of any documented accounts of any infinitely-knowing, eternal being stating anything for the record. Everything has been written by people based on hearsay from thousands upon thousands of years old.

Enjoy the following page (it offers great perspective) and then seriously ask yourself if there is a creator and if it really cares if people get married before they get down for some.

htwins.net/scale2

^that isn't to say I'm against marriage by any stretch but trying to tell others their soul is in jeopardy because of it is quite simply saying things you're not qualified to say. In fact, it stands to reason that any such claims by people should be dismissed unless there is evidence to support their message being from divinity: )

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


He doesn't seem to be, does he?


Whatever you want to believe there sport, but if you really believe in all your pf posts, you've never once criticized the moral direction or ethics of church leaders in Poland then I'll let you believe that.


It sounds like you've bought more than a few bridges in your time: )

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


I'm not going to go through all your posts on this forum just to prove a point.


You and I both know that in Poland this is what is really important to the clergy and "provide for the needs of the Church" translates to "give the clergy money to keep living their lavish lifestyle."

This isn't news to anyone though, is it? The same is true for nearly every organized religion -the leaders are usually the most corrupt and the biggest hypocrites.

You could just as easily start a thread entitled "Water is also wet in Poland."


I should have phrased that better to help you understand.
You told me my understand of what the RCC in Poland requires of its members to do is spotty (or something to that effect). I'm asking you to clarify that, requires of its members to do what? e.g. to get to heaven? to find Christ? to do what?

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


Required by the RCC to do what?

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


I'm sure you've done it some where and may even have been right in doing so. My point is that you seem content to attack other groups but never any group you identify with.


Required by whom? Required in what circumstances? Jesus H. Christ boy, make yourself clear!

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

I hate to reference the guy but Harry actually appears to know his Polish beers pretty well. Wait for him to chime in on this thread.

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]

I wonder how Harry would respond to a thread centered around the moral hypocrisy of Jews.

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


Just because a small percentage of people are vocal about an issue, it does not mean their feelings aren't representative of the majority. Go into people's homes and you see a lot of crosses on a lot of walls. There are more people who are willing to fight to keep the things up than there are people who will fight to take the things down. That's just how it is here.


I disagree.


Oh yes, because abusive regimes with no religious attachments haven't churned out any destruction on society. *sarcasm off*

Poles are mostly Catholic whether or not you admit this changes nothing. They're not hurting anyone with putting crosses on walls so why are you so bothered by it?

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

According to some brewers,Tyskie isn't brewed long enough to actually be beer. I've been told flavouring is added to compensate.
It used to be pretty good circa 2002 but times have changed.

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


You've misunderstood the reference to this figure a bit. Look at the context as to what I was replying to.


So let's stop crying about it shall we;)?
It's obvious the majority of people here want the things on their walls for whatever reason. Live and let live man.

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


Social skills?
Morality or reasoning? Perhaps. But social skills? No.
That being the case even kindergarten level math should tell you 9-1 odds and all other factors being equal or against you, ought to be respected to a large degree.

Crosses on the wall aren't hurting you or me. I'm not the religious type and loathe much of the hypocrisy of the PCC but that's what people here seem to prefer (brainwashed or not). I'm not going to get in their way and I make sure they don't get in mine. It's a bit of symbolism that reflects what Polish society is all about, for better or worse. So what's the big deal?

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


You don't go p*ssing off the majority by doing what you suggested and still keep your teeth. You don't have to respect traditions here but there's no reason to outwardly disrespect their traditions, is there?

Yes, you know your sh*t and do an admirable job of getting your facts together (for the most part) but as one poster pointed out, your thinking is so far to the left that it obscures what is otherwise a fairly good head with decent perspective.

The majority of people here whether you, I or anyone else likes it, identify with being Catholic. Why is this so hard for you to mentally digest? It's like every other week you go and try to prove otherwise.

Don't worry, people are becoming less and less devout every day and pretty soon they'll simply fall prey to something else that's even worse of an influence than the RCC and then you can dance a jig at how sh*tastic this place will have become. Feel better?

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


See that's what I mean, it seems the word country is being misused in place of society and that might be where a certain bit of disagreement is stemming from.


Are you a bee keeper by any chance?

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]

Okay, it seems if you guys could come to an understanding as to what a country actually is or isn't, you might come to an agreement of sorts.

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


nothing


The vast majority of society seems to disagree with you. Deal with it.


I'll take your word for it.

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]

Hey Delph and Harry; what exactly are you two arguing?
Are you arguing Poland isn't made up of a society that identifies itself as being Catholic or that officially this is a secular country or that you're against crosses in public?

Life / Why Polish people are fat ? [81]


I don't consider numbers released in 2007/08 (likely obtained and compiled earlier) up-to-date in August of 2013. The fact there isn't more recent data doesn't change that.


I question any methodology on principal alone: )

Life / Why Polish people are fat ? [81]

^That information is from 5-6 years old from when it was released (if I've read things correctly).
I appreciate you've gone through the trouble to provide something like evidence to shed light on the discussion but I think you would agree that based on the changes we see in western society, up-to-date information is important. Another thing that is important with any study is how the information that led to conclusions was gathered. It really makes or breaks things for me.

Life / Why Polish people are fat ? [81]

^ That is based on a completely warped understanding of what being "overweight" actually means.
Among Americans, Canadians, The English and Australians, "chubby" has now become the average and considered normal.

Life / Why Polish people are fat ? [81]

I dunno but the pace at which this society has gone from lithe to portly has been astounding.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]

I was away for a while, and I'll be away again but it's always amusing to see what the feminists come up with to justify their warped perspective on society: )


Ask and you shall receive:


You honestly don't see it as such when you do it because well, you're a modern feminist and therefore lack objectivity. You think you can accuse a man of hating women based on nothing whatsoever and you're simply not able to figure out that is a baseless accusation (and in such chronological proximity to your question too).


I come across as bitter? Take a look at the following and then let another modern feminist illogical leap explain your take on that.

I'm not bitter, she is. I'm just frustrated with your inability to actually look at the issue objectively. I grow weary of your obtuse nature: )

But anyway, Paulina here's how you "care" Paulina:




How does one go from "I care about 'x'" to "I do nothing 'x'" -honestly?
It appears you have confused "I care" with "it pi$$es me off enough to do nothing about it."
A good many "feminists" are manipulative in that you cry and whine about women being raped and abused but are actually only willing to do anything about it insofar as you stand to gain something yourselves where you are. You only seek to use the issue of others' suffering to your own advantage. I find that part and parcel of the Western Feminist Mantra -"What's in it for me?"

Women in the west not only have equality, they have tipped the scales of social balance in women's favour. You'll pardon me if I don't get on board the program to further put males at a disadvantage in society just to placate feminists.

Men are expected to put women before us in nearly every aspect of living and then, should we expect a woman to, at some point, know her place in a matter, we're brow beaten about some disgusting man who raped a woman somewhere or that women bear children and somehow this is makes us worse human beings. I've even heard women who've never given birth to a child try to use that as some trump card in arguments.

From what I've seen, Western Feminists want consequence free living for themselves and if a woman in China should benefit as well, then so be it but as long as there are women truly suffering, this suits them and their agenda best.


Nile CLEARLY understands and articulates his understanding of the issue better than anyone on this thread. I'm impressed Nile, I wish I had your way with words.

Study / Which language to learn in my university course? Polish Or German? [35]

Sorry Wlodzi, I thought one of your responses was to me but I read you wrong.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


And I've stated that it is just not right to support a group of people who aren't willing to take accountability for their own ilk. There is a way towards equality and feminism ain't it.


The average woman in the west most definitely enjoys a better deal in Western society than men. Jesus, there are even women admitting to this. Are you really that uninformed?


No one's excited about you over here sister; I just thought it might be entertaining to see how the other side of the aisle in this debate deals with baseless personal accusations for a change.


zing!


Okay, fine, you care about them. So how much do you care about them; i.e. what are you doing about "them?"


On the contrary, it's you who is delusional. You don't care about males as a group, you only care about the men related to you, the others are disposable and you wouldn't dream of investing even a tenth of the emotional investment you have for "women's rights" for anything exclusively male related. You're not alone in that.

That's what sickens me about more than a few feminists: they will go on charity runs for breast cancer and there will be some in those ranks who actually blocked a similar run for prostate cancer. They will spread awareness about rape and then dismiss the notion, let alone the prevalence of fake claims made. They want equality in the family but if there's a divorce they hope that "she bleeds him dry." They are despicable, conniving and arrogant.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


It's like you haven't read a single criticism that any of us have provided about the actual consequences of the feminist agenda.
Go ahead and tell us what any of our criticisms of feminism have been that YOU feel/think are legitimate?


If that was the only thing that feminists have striven for then there shouldn't be any debate on the matter. Feminists seem to ignore that their agenda isn't about basic human rights. It's about pursuing advantages for women over men in society after that original mandate has been achieved.


That is incorrect but don't let facts or reason get in the way of hyperbole and straw man arguments.


You don't give a flying fcuk about the women in those countries anymore than you understand their cultures for all their good and bad points. You just want to trumpet the case of anyone living in what you consider lesser circumstances so you can pretend that somehow affects you where you live. You don't care about the people in those places anymore than they care about you.

"We just want equality."
Firstly, no you really don't and there are plenty of examples in Western countries that show the feminist claim of only wanting equality is patently false. Fact!

But equality is a fabulous thing. The only problem is a lot of you can't seem to digest "different" doesn't automatically mean "inequality." There are differences in males and females but feminists, by and large, don't seem to acknowledge the male perspective in this AT ALL.

Feminists are mostly a bunch of slimy hypocrites with an agenda that is largely about your ego. Feminists have no problem with boys being abused but scream like a banshee if a girl is called a name. You people pick and choose what is or isn't an "issue" and don't care about proportionality, only gender. Female feminists are in it for themselves first and foremost and male feminists are really just suckers.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


You misunderstood, I used to think Zimmy was a misogynist, I've come to realize I was wrong -an experience I'm sure you've never had as a feminist.


Why don't you ask him?

It's obvious Paulina that as a feminist, you either hate men or simply consider us disposable to your needs as a woman. You don't understand us and think you're better than us. You disgust me.

Study / Which language to learn in my university course? Polish Or German? [35]

Dude, I don't care too much about your analysis of my language. If you can wrap your brain around the fact that I hold the opinion that German is easier for most English speakers than Polish then great. If not then, well, whatever.