News / Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10 [1693]

And now, without any announcement from the presidents office, Z finally signs a law lowering the conscription age to 25 from 27. This law was sitting on his desk since May of 2023! Finally this fvcking moron does what he is told. And now, Ukraine can add some physically capable men to their efforts when the new military aid comes. Bad news for young Ukraine men, good news for the war effort. Way too late though, since most of these younger men have found a way to escape Ukraine and thousands of them are driving Uber in Poland.

And now, the press is finally saying what has needed to be said for the last six months. politico.eu/article/ukraine-great-risk-front-line-collapse-war-russia/

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@Bratwurst Boy
Therein lies the rub. NATO is not the US, NATO is Europe believing the US will alwasy come to the rescue, just like now with Ukraine. No one in the US sees Russia as a threat. The only threat is nuclear, and then we have MAD. So, no threat other than ideology, and the leftist fvcks in the US make that even less of a threat.

@Bobko
Respectfully, Russia is no where close to being a US equal. Regardless of how fvcked up the US is with mental disease, its still far better than Russia in every measurable way. And you are trhere because of it. I repsect your patriotism, but the comparisons are not even close.

@mafketis
I havent accepted dictatorship, but I do think that there needs to be stronger forms of governance. This far left bull$hit, open borders, and mental disease can be the cause of a complete collapse of the western world. The US and Europe are fvcked if they continue to believe the "melting pot" theory is good in practice when all evidence points to the contrary. It is our differences that do divide us, not unite us. Some things, and people were never meant to be united, and are not natural. You cant force a round peg into a square hole.

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@Bratwurst Boy
I would argue that the wars from Korea until 9/11 were absolutely not necessary. These wars were not to protect anything American accept the idea of democracy, and that idea has been twisted and distorted so much that American Democracy now is a shining beacon of flaming dog$hit. Russia is not a rival to the US, it is simply an old idea of the boogie man for those of us that grew up with the cold war.

@Tacitus
Sorry, but Ukraine has asked for too much. Thats it. This is the last batch, and then Europe can fund the war on their own. IF Biden continues this, you are going to see riots in the US streets like never before, and I suspect January 6th will look like a 1970's free love meeting. Americans are ready to fight with each other in order to restore order and sanity, and I think Europe really under estimates the danger of that actually happening. This is a very serious matter to more than half the country, and not recognizing this is a big mistake.

Russian arms quantity is no match for US arms quality. We see that everywhere on the battle field. It takes one Abrahms shell to shoot completely through 2 Russian tanks. 26 billion out of the 60 will be for finance and humanitarian aid. Lets not give Europe all the credit here.

No one said that the US would ever fight in Ukraine, because it will never happen. Ukraine will not get in NATO, and frankly I think the EU is fvcking stupid to allow them in.

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@Bratwurst Boy
Normally I would agree with you. The US though has been fighting war after war for the last 70 years. Americans are tired of it. The Biden administration has made the US a complete disaster with immigration, drug use, and promoting the insanity of social construct LGBTQ ideology. Honestly it is not the country I grew up in, and its fvcking embarassing. Of course Europe is important, it is where most Americans have their ancestry. Europe will always be important, but Ukraine is not the US responsibility. Z has proven he cant get Russia out and he wont follow orders. This will be his last and best chance. No more excuses once this aid comes and they have F16s in the air.

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@Bratwurst Boy
responsiblestatecraft.org/ukraine-peace-talks-poll/ 70% of Americans want talks to end the war. Last time I was in the US, the sentiment from people, not polsters, is they want money spent in the US on Americans.

Your poll only shows that Americans think it is important to American interests. And in that poll only 45% think it is very important. Lets not try to be a Trump family accountant and twist numbers here.

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@Tacitus
The US is done after this batch of money. The American people have given enough and thats what they are saying. If the US can build a new factory, then Europe could have. Lets stop making excuses for Europe not doing better. Its fvcking embarassing. And lets be clear, the US would have provided more aid more quickly had Ukraine followed orders and not wasted lives and equipment on Avdiika when it was not an essential or strategic position.

US factories have been producing and stockpiling ammunition for months. When this passes, Ukraine will get shipments very quickly. What Russia is spending on weapons that are clearly not as good as the US made ones, is simply wasted money. Spending comparisons without quality and impact comparisons dont mean much. The US sent so much that it has taken almost 8 months for Ukraine to start running out since the last batch of funding.

Lets also remember that they will be getting F16s in the next month or so. Adding that into the weapons pool, and all the new volume of weapons, a breakthrough is expected. The only question is, who is going to use all of the new stuff when Ukraine refuses to conscript more men? Cant win a war without men.

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Looks like April 9th will be when congress takes up Ukraine Aid. This article was very informative forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/01/ukraine-might-be-getting-34-billion-in-american-weapons-and-soon/

That kind of aid, when looking at all the other aid provided had better produce a breakthrough for Ukraine. The volume of this package, compared to the volume of the prior packages in total is massive. Z will have no excuses after this one. Interesting info was that the Army built a factory already in Texas for shell production. Why havent European nations built more factories in the same time? This is why I am critical of Europes efforts to arm themselves for the future.

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@cms neuf
Really? The peace plan was pretty much made public. And Europe cant replace the US or its production. They havent even come close in the two years they have had to build up. Whether Trump or Biden wins, it wont matter. The is the last money congress will dare send Ukraine, or they will face losing their offices a year after the presidential elections.

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Lets all be honest here. This coming 60 billion from the US is going to be the last of big financing for Ukraine. Its taken congress 8 months to get to this point and introducing their own bill this coming week. There wont be more, and if Trump wins, it will be worse than running out of funding. No european nation or combination of nations can match Russias weapons production. Nine months is all Ukraine really has left. If they dont make a huge breakthrough in the next few months, there will be no other option but to seek a cease fire and give up all the territory Putin wants.

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@jon357
Humility? I think you are talking to yourself. Again, you havent done enough research on me.

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@Atch
I am talking about modern day feminism. You win, it started in where ever you say. Modern day feminism is not about what it was when it started. The nuts in the US have made it much more. Modern day feminists and all their catch phrases, and key words, are more toxic than pcb's. Tate does not do the porno sites any more I believe. He is making millions with his online courses. There are obviously big divides here on PF when it comes to neoliberalism, feminism, and leftist activism. In the end, one side or the other will prevail because the leftist and rightist can never find common ground. I am betting on the right, and believe all the leftist craziness is exactly what is bringing society down. Traditional roles, and values are not a bad thing. They are not perfect, but they sure arent as crazy as what some would propose to be normalized.

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@jon357
You do what you have to do jon, and I will do the same.

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@jon357
I have read the laws, and your actions and comments fit very nicely into harassment, and stalking. One thing I learned in Life was to never underestimate people. And you, I do not underestimate. You could very well be plotting something. Thats something I wont risk my family to be subjected to. And like the last online stalker, I will take action. I have made my request for the last time. Now that I know who you are, and how to have people get in touch with you regarding this matter, it will happen should you continue.

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@jon357
Innocent until proven guilty. And if he is guilty he can serve his sentence. Thats life. Yet, I wouldnt place a bet on conviction or acquital in this case. Too many contradictions, and as far as the UK goes, they have to get their hands on him first.

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@jon357
I suggest you actually talk to an attorney in the UK before you act so wise. The Crown Prosecution Service recently updated their guidelines for prosecuting online stalkers and harassers. The update is far reaching and amzingly inclusive. Not only are there laws against this but there are additional laws for simply using a computer, phone or the internet to further online stalking and harassment. You think you are so smart jon, youre not. I am continuing to be polite, soon though, I will actually have my attorney make an official complaint and it will be waiting for you when you return to the UK. I have asked you multiple times to discontinue, this is the last.

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@Torq
Z has over played his hand time and again. Saying something like this just when the republicans are preparing to give Ukraine aid could backfire big time. He is not a smart man and doesnt understand how Americans think.

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@jon357
Still making tons of money with his classes and from social media popularity. Even while on bail.

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@jon357
You can either discontinue, or not. No consequences for just shutting the fvck up. Consequences abound for continuing to harass people though. See this is a pattern for you now. A serial stalker and harasser. Being offensive is not a crime. What you do is.

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Any woman dumb enough to work on these online shops is simply dumb. Look at how many women pimp themselves out on Only Fans, and on Instagram. Please stop blaming men for womens bad choices. Thats like blaming the grocery store for selling cigaretts to the smoking adict, or blaming the gorcery store for selling alcohol to the alcoholic. People make choices. Some good some bad. Thats life.

Tate takes advantage of the internet. He makes a lot of money from it. Maybe we should just blame the people who built the internet for everything. Has he done immoral things? Absolutely, in my eyes, but maybe not other peoples. I am not one to judge, I dont live his life. Everyone else judging though is rather comical.

@Atch
Modern feminism comes from the US. I am not talking about voting rights. I am talking about all the other loosely framed talking points. Toxic masculinity, gender pay gap, allowing transgender to participate in womens sports and a whole host of other items. Women in this leftist group are destroying a lot of what they fought for.

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@jon357
Homophobic? No sir. I am not afraid of any homos. Calling someone a fag who admits to being a fag is not homophobic. I have not made such statements while in the UK nor have I availed myself to a UK jurisdiction when using a word used around the world. And when someone says it doesnt bother them, then thats good enough. What you do though is quite different. In fact, a new guideline was given to UK prosecutors only a few weeks ago concerning online stalking and harassment, and it is very wide reaching. So, since I have asked you more than once to discontinue your harassing remarks, this is the last time I will make that request.

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@jon357
What Peterson is going through in Canada. Having his license stripped from him for expressing his views, and not agreeing to participate in "reprogramming" yes that is the official government term, other countries are offering to give him a license when Canada takes his away.

I apologize for having some Tate information incorrect. That said, the Romanian "victims" have recanted their stories. It doesnt take a year to bring people to trial when they are in the country and living at home unless you dont have a case.

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@Feniks
LOL I dont admire him for anything other than having the balls to say what he thinks when most men dont. I dont buy into everything he says. I do agree with how a woman should be honored, spoiled, and given everything she wants in return for supporting men. So people laugh at him, criticize him, and mock him. Yet, many women in the world, saying it publicly, want those things. You dont have to agree. Everyone is entitled to think what they want. In a world where men are being made to be weak, someone needs to remind young men that weak men create weak and dangerous times.

If my wife wants to work she can do that. I dont control her. I can always hire a maid to take care of the house. She likes not working and being able to travel when ever we want to where ever we want. To buy things that make her happy. This is the give and take. Its not for everyone I agree completely. But that doesnt make it wrong.

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@jon357
You might want to read up on UK laws before you keep making statements. Public forums are to discuss opinions, not to stalk and harass those that participate in the discussion. Which you have done, and admitted to. Pussy? You are the pussy who resorts to your behavior because thats all you can do. Lets meet for a beer. What do you say?

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@Paulina
Of course hear comes the judgement. Funny how the Tate brothers have had charges dropped isnt it? Strange how all their property was returned to them. Even more strange is that the accusers recanted their stories. But please talk about how Tate tells young men to hold women up high, honor them, repsect them and take care of them. Thats his message if anyone pays attention. His message that is changing young men from objectifying women to respecting them must be terrible.

Peterson a grifter? Interesting, he was pretty well known before social media. But he is critical of the left and the LGBTQ agenda, so of course he is in it for the money. Thats why governments around the world have offered to give him a license to practice when Canada want to reprogram him. Again, the left wants everyones opinion to be heard and to count, until it disagrees with their opinion.

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@johnny reb
Indeed the holier than thou, the clean, and completely pure stand in judgement of others. The few who are capable of this though usually have the balls to show themselves. The laws in Europe are quite clear when it comes to invasion of privacy and cyber stalking. Nothing to joke about. The UK in particular has some very wide ranging and inclusive items they can use to prosecute such people. Posting information on message boards is certainly one item that can be used as evidence, and admission of conversations concerning the stalked and harassed subject are prima face evidence of such behavior, but hey who cares about that when you think you can remain annonymous.

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@Lenka
The father always finds some time off. If he works an 8 to 4 job, he only gets a few hours a day, the mothers role is more important in early life. You dont like Tate because why? The US is not the center of the world, but the feminist movement is centered and began in the US. The far left movement is centered in the US. Those are just facts. It has now spread to Europe. Funny how many Europeans hate the US and Americans, or dislike them, yet follow the lead from them.

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@Lenka
And there is the difference in thinking. What you call sensible, is not always what women want, and it is becoming less and less of what young men want. What is wrong with young men wanting more traditional roles in the family, or a more traditional woman? I have been all over the world and Europe, women in general are much more family oriented here than North America. Is it sensible to have a child, and go back to work after three months to make 10K zloty in a management position when a nanny or good child care is going to take half that money? I dont think so, especially not when it comes to the childs development and bonding with its mother. It makes more sense for the father to take on a second job.

Poland has great maternity policy, but in the US and Canada no such policy exists. Children are not raised by their mothers, they go off to daycare centers, so mom can go back to work. I find it strange that a mother would rather work than raise her child or stay home with them for more than a few weeks. Polands women are very well educated, but not all of them want careers, many would love to be able to be stay at home mothers. With 800+ and the maternity policy here, women really dont have to choose between family and work. In North America its a very different place.

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Sorry, but it is funny to read this thread. It shows just how far apart masculine men are from feminist women. I dont think anyone has said women "cant" be independent, solve problems, or be CEO's. More women have chosen these things over having a family. Thats fine, their choice. The issue does not come up when women are young in their 20's and early 30's. The issues of traditional relationships and values come up as women usually begin to realize what they sacrificed in order to "get ahead" and many find out that having children or a family is out of reach for them now.

Looking at social media and all these women showing themselves off, and trying to make money doing degrading things like Only Fans says a lot about where our western culture is today. Valuing things and money over people and family. Women with high body counts, are shocked when men dont want them, and why are they shocked? The feminist movement for better access to education, better pay and things like this are great. But there is a cost, and that cost is often not realized until many decisions have been made early in life. Regret, and watching others face it, is a very hard pill to swallow.

Chase your dreams, do what you want. But dont expect to get the man you want to wait while you chase all of those. The values of young men are changing pretty quickly. I would with a lot of young men under 30 who follow Tate and Peterson religiously. These young men come from affluent families, and many of them fall into the categories posseing the qualities that young women express they are looking for. These same young men think that todays young women have lost their minds. And then American and Canadian women in particular are angry when these men go to Europe or Asia searching for more traditional women. The narrative of the left, is very influential in driving men and women in different directions.

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@Paulina
Men care about womens goals when they align with what men also want. If not, then go hang with all the other career chasers. As for myself, I have multiple children, again being vague because one POS here is stalking me. All are happy and healthy. I support people living their own lives. What I dont support is the narrative that traditional lives and values are bad. I dont support the feminist who cry about pay gaps and other bullshit that has been proven to not be correct. I do not support the leftist radical agenda of 120 different pronons or their mental disease that has proven quite infectious to young people. I would support you and your personal choices so long as you are not trying to create a movement to destroy traditional roles and values.

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@pawian
How is a direct comparison clutching at straws? Z is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He is only just a little better than Vlad. You dont qant to read the truth, thats your problem.