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@Dirk diggler, @Atch, @DominicB

Thank you very much for your precious suggestions for me. I've asked so many questions and you've answered all of them for me. I really appreciate about that.

I don't know in the future maybe I change my mind but currently I've decided to study in the Poland after that I'll try to gain some experiences in the Poland and then I'll think again which country is more proper for me UK or U.S.

I wish success in your life.

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Yes, you're right about that but I'm not planning to live in the Poland, I just want to study and gain some work experiences in there. I think England might be better choice for me. I don't know it is true but I heard if get a degree from Poland I can secure employment in continent Europe, is it true ? If it so, it seems employment in UK should be much easier for me.

London is expensive yes but I don't want live in the London neither unless I got desirable job offer. I can live in cities such as: Sheffield, Leicester, Leeds, Bristol etc.. these cities seem affordable. As a computer programmer I can apply on the Tier-2 visa but I don't know practically how it works. If I work in the Poland a few years in the tech companies, that experience will be enough for me ?

Any experience suggestions for me ? Thanks.


Yes but as far as I know that diplomatic problem will be solved within a few months. Yes, there is no news about that but Turkey is member of NATO and allied with U.S. Also Turkish citizens can apply to U.S consolutes in the other countries.

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You're right about that and I don't expect anyone to care about my own ideas because I won't tell anything about my opinions unless they ask to me my personal belief, opinions. I'm sure in this topic everyone just trying to help me :) I really appreciate that you've been sharing your valuable ideas, experiences with me and this is really good for me thank you very much.


No, atheism is not a something that really important for me but science is really important for me and I just want to build a family that should be completely away from dogmatic ideas.

Also for a long time I've been thinking to live in England. I think UK seems good choice for me. England is a Christian country but society is a secular and quite much non-religious people living there. Also that country has a good education system which is based on science and as far as I know they are only teaching theory of evolution in the public schools. Creationism has been completely removed from the curriculum (in the U.S some states still teaches creationism). Also in the UK weather is good I love rainy days and small houses, streets seem really lovely to me.

I think England might be a good choice for me I can contribute that society but I don't know with Polish degree can I find a software company for the Tier-2 visa. I would appreciate if anyone make a comparison between England and U.S for me. Which one is best for me? I haven't decided yet.

Thanks.

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Thank you for your precious comments for me. Hearing opinions from you, make me comfortable. :) I appreciate that.

I guess many of you don't know anything about current government of Turkey. That's why you've suggested to me stay in the Turkey. But unfortunately this way have so many practically problems for atheists if you compare in daily life, culturally etc.. Why should I stay here if I'm scared of explaining my ideas ? Why should I continue to live in the culture which is completely excluded for the non-religious ? I would prefer contribute in the Polish society, isn't right ? So, I'll either go to the U.S (if I win Diversity Lottery) or go to the Poland to study (or another European country).

This is my absolute decision, I respect your opinions thanks for that but it doesn't seem logical to me because I know this society and I've been living here since I was born. Actually I don't have to study CS in Poland because Hungary might be good choice for me but I've just learnt IT ındustry is better than Hungary in Poland also English programmes a bit better in the Poland. I will continue to search about that.

Also I heard if I get my CS degree in Poland, I can secure employment in Europe. Because Poland is a member state of EU union but Turkey is not. So maybe I can also live in the UK, I know UK is leaving EU but nevertheless I might chance about finding jobs and get a residence there.

I care about citizens' opinions about immigrants and I also want to contribute a society which is secular and science based. I think British have secular culture (I know state based on Christianity) So, UK or US which one is would be best for me ? I don't care big houses, luxery cars, highest salary or etc.. Of course I must be able find jobs with my Polish CS degree but more importantly I want to live safe and science based, grow my child scientifically, I want to teach them evolution etc... (I probably won't learn new languages such as Polish, German etc..) so please suggest me a country which is its official language is English. I heard in the UK, Muslims are increasing, is that a serious problem for future ?

Thanks.

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Thank you for your help :) It sounds great but nevertheless I'll improve myself on the math because math is something that I really enjoy with it. Of course my main focus will be programming, I'll start my own projects as soon as I've enough knowledge about JS. Then I can start with C languages. Also I'll visit stackoverflow.com forum it may be useful site for me.


Yes, I know that Diversity Visa Lottery program and I've been waiting for a long time to get my high school degree, after that I'll apply for that program. I don't know how they choose their candidates but maybe if I have a chance, I can be a green card holder and I can easily attend university in the U.S with this program. But if they don't choose me I can try my chance again and if still nothing happens.. Then studying in the Poland will be my next objective.

Also I've heard, that Diversity Visa Lottery program may be completely removed by Trump and his supporters. Because president Trump was thinking a system which is based on your skills, that means if your skills are good you'll have higher points just like in the Canada.

Anyway, thank you so much for all you've done for me I have appreciated all of it. Especially, @Dirk diggler I appreciate your knowledgeable long comments for me that helped a lot. :)

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To be honest, I'm not a person that consistently getting high scores and I am not good at any sport, personally I don't like sport. I'm a hardworking person but I just don't get high scores on math, probably I'm average one and I know math is really important for me and in these days I'm trying improve myself on the math because I believe IT is one of the fields that based on math and analytical problem solving.

I don't know did you study Computer Science but if so, what would you suggest me about math ? I'm in the high school now (12th grade) and I don't know Calculus (in the Turkey, they don't teach in the high school) so do I need to learn Calculus right now ? Or will I start to learn in the university ?

I don't know how to attend university in the US with no tuition fees as an average person. Probably, H-1B visa is seems best way for me to get the US.


Thank you for your precious comment for me :)


That's a good thing for me but as I said before I don't know Polish language, even though after graduation can I get jobs in Wroclaw with only English language ? I'm talking about IT industry.

Also I don't have any idea about internship in Poland without Polish language. After I've graduated from university, can I apply for internship in Poland ? Any ideas ?


I don't think universities which are courses taught in English as bad as you're saying because some other people saying they've average education. Of course I don't expect top university level.

Thanks for your post.

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Thank you for your comment for me.

Yes, you're right, I've heard that many times IT field, depends on self-improvement. In these days, I'm trying to learn JavaScript after that I'll start with C languages because I want to be senior programmer on Microsoft side so that I should learn C# and .Net.


Thanks, that sounds great.

But I don't know Polish language, even though after graduation can I get jobs in Wroclaw with only English language ? Poland seems lovely country to me I don't know what do Polish society think about irreligious persons or immigrants but I respect every good human whatever their belief. :)


Thanks for warning.

I heard that and I'll improve myself on programming I'm a self-taught person but I I really want to have knowledge about theoretical computer science, figuring out data structures, algorithms, etc.. Isn't that possible in that courses are in English ? Can those professors teach me important concepts of computer science ?


That would be best for me but I can't afford to study in Anglosphere countries and I don't have so much time to save money to study in US. Also when I try to convert 1000 Turkish lira to the US dollars that gives me only $280-281 :( So it is really hard to study in US or in another Anglosphere country.

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Thank you for your suggestions for me. As I said before, I've some problems in the Turkey and also universities aren't good in here as you think. Actually there is one important thing for the Poland that you've forgotten and it is IT sector is better than Turkey in the Poland.

I heard hardware and software companies such as IBM, Intel, Google, Microsoft.. etc. have their offices in the Poland. You can find so many successful companies that based on video game industry such as: CD Projekt, Techland etc. Because of these reasons, studying Computer Science in Poland, makes sense for me.