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Joined: 24 Mar 2017 / Female ♀
Last Post: 6 Jul 2017
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From: Minnesota, United States
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Interests: Medieval History, Literature, Music

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CuriousBanana   
6 Jul 2017
History / Medieval Polish Knight Armour [2]

Hi everyone,
Just wondering if anyone could maybe link or post some pictures or illustrations of armours worn by Polish knighthood. Particularly looking for armours that would have been worn from the years 1200 to 1500 AD.

Thaaaaanks!
CuriousBanana   
29 Mar 2017
Genealogy / Why did(do) Poles sometimes have German first names? [28]

Holy moly, thanks for all this information Paulina!

I actually found a surname that is VERY similar to my great grandfather's - so if it was changed then it likely was this one, at least that's my gut feeling. Thank you so much for this!!

Also, thank you so much for translating the passages from the Wikipedia article for me! I hope it wasn't too much trouble, but I really appreciate it immensely!

What you said about giving the child a German name also makes a lot of sense too - I actually saw a few articles of it happening in the inverse (German child was given a Polish name because he had a Polish mother). Incidentally, the same thing happened with me - I have a German last name but my mother (who is half Polish) gave me a Polish name (or at least nickname - it's Katie, but everyone on her side of the family calls me Kasia) so I could definitely see the same thing happening with my great grandfather - which would make this whole process an interesting "family tradition". ;)

Thank you for your explanation on all these Polish terms haha - I feel so ignorant having to ask all this, but someday I hope to learn Polish myself.

Oh and thank you for all these beautiful videos! I really, really, really would like to go to Poland, and I'm attracted to these more rural, out of the way destinations, so it gets my really excited to look into it! And I will definitely hug any birches I see there! Funny I actually heard a similar thing about them having some sort of vibrant properties from my own father, whose family came from the Black Forest.

Also, I think I will follow your approach and look in local Church archives for stuff relating to my family when I go to Poland. ^^
CuriousBanana   
25 Mar 2017
Genealogy / Why did(do) Poles sometimes have German first names? [28]

I agree with both of you regarding the last name - it's probably not that important, and given the fact that it's so hard to identify as to a clear nationality, and the fact the name has such a small incidence - I've come to believe that it as probably changed by the family sometime in the past, either to assimilate with a new culture or as a result of misspellings over the years.

Btw, can you imagine that only thanks to this thread I found out that it's possible that I have some Lithuanian roots?

Lithuania has such a rich history, too! I'm glad I could maybe inspire you to do genealogical research into your family! It really is quite fun - frustrating at times when you hit a brick wall - but still fun, especially when you are able to get help from nice people online, as I did here.

It doesn't look German... But I really have no idea, I would have to read into this stuff and I don't have time for this these days, I'm sorry...

Don't worry about it! Like I said, I've been convinced for a while that the surname underwent a sort of "evolution" to what it is now, so it was probably originally something very different, so research into it would probably be useless anyway.

This is pure fantasy. Sources from the 10th and 11th centuries on Poland are more than extremely scarce.

Yeah, it seems that way with every country in central Europe, at least to me. However, one thing I did find which was kind of interesting to me at least, was this:

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C5%82uchoniemcy (Hope this link works, if not it's a page called 'Gluchoniemcy' on the Polish wikipedia.

It seems there was some recorded settlement of Germans in the later middle ages in the same region my great grandfather. Incidentally, the town he came from, Lalin (Lalin Niemiecki, in this case) is listed as one of their many settlements on this page. The Polish version of this wikipedia page has far more information than the English version, so I chose to use that one, but unfortunately I am not fluent in Polish (yet) so I had to use google translate, and as I'm sure you guys know, that can be kind....ehhhh...

But what I did find interesting, at least if the information is accurate, is that there was a recorded presence of these people all the way up to the late 1850s, which would fit around the time of my great grandfather's parents, roughly. According to the not-so-good translation, these people, while ethnic Germans, more or less identified as Polish and spoke only the Polish language - but the way the researcher was able to identify them was that they sometimes had "contemporary German names" I don't know if its refering to first or last names, (according to the page most of these people Polonized their last names, so it leads me to believe its referring to first names) but in the case of the former, it could explain my great grandfather having the first name Andreas, and, presumably, his father having the name Wilhelm. Like Atch said, maybe Wilhelm had a German parent(s).

It turned out that the medallion she picked for me depicted Our Lady of the Gate of Dawn (Matka Boska Ostrobramska) from Vilnius in Lithuania with the coat of arms of Lithuania on the other side of the medallion :)

I like this story! It made me think that since Gluchoniemcy roughly means "forest people" (or Germans?), at least from what I understand, maybe, somewhat similar to your situation, it would explain why I always, always, loved hiking in the woods and generally just being around them, hehe. =P

I hope I can help you with your own research someday to repay you!
CuriousBanana   
24 Mar 2017
Genealogy / Why did(do) Poles sometimes have German first names? [28]

Well, if your family comes from Poland then you are always going to be connected to it through this :)

Thank you for saying this - it means a lot to me.

You're definitely right with the unavailability of certain things online, especially with things that are over 100 years old. Hopefully someday I will have the opportunity to retrieve any records that may be available from any churches (be it Roman or Greek Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox) as your aunt did.

I just realized that you were the same one to post the very helpful "Polish surname suffixes" thread that I saw a few days prior to posting this thread. Definitely very well made. My own great grandfather's surname ended with the suffix "chra" - not sure if that's helpful or anything, but I thought I'd post it anyway. Honestly, I'm more than satisfied with the answers I got in this thread, so it really doesn't matter either way. Thank you!