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Joined: 27 Jul 2016 / Female ♀
Last Post: 9 Aug 2016
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From: US, Palm Beach
Speaks Polish?: Taught as a toddler but hardly know anything being last of my family tree branch.
Interests: History, Entrepreneurial-related (was CPA for 20 yrs), Nature, etc. (Family's Religion traced back many centuries: Roman Catholic)

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janina2016   
27 Jul 2016
Genealogy / What does it mean for surname to be included in Herb PRUS III? Napierkowski. [8]

What does it mean for surname (Napierkowski) to be included in Herb PRUS III? Does anyone know any background regarding Parzych (by paternal great grandmother was Anna (née Parzych) Napiorkowska, who fled to the U.S. along with her two sons in late 1930s to avoid WWII)?

Finally, is there any difference as to being Polish than Prussian, or does it depends on "who was governing" at the time (my father taught me about what he knew most of Polish history - the glory days of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and its relative strength in Europe for some time; I always thought that's why Germany & Russia, the latter more recently, want to gain control over it...so this once great empire of Europe doesn't ever get the change to exist again, or maybe I'm being too proud of being Polish)?

Any help is greatly appreciated! (I apologize for the lengthiness as I don't expect anyone to read this whole post if they do not wish to!)

Janina

P.S. This would also REALLY help my almost 80 year old father, the patriarch and the last male of the family of all generations (there's about to be 4 - see below if interested), believe it or not. He has been to Europe but never to Poland and it has been his life dream for us to go there (my mother's career - she's finally retiring this year as a hospital chemist at age 75 yrs old - has made it incredibly difficult for them to travel to wherever they would like to go specifically; thus, they visited the places in Europe that they were sent; before my father married my mother he spent a military career fighting against North Korea and lived in a few other Asian countries for a while for related purposes; and, last but not least, my father has put the happiness of everyone in the entire extended family before his own, mainly this dream of rediscovering his roots and visiting his family's homeland, so I would like to return the favor especially since he & my mother celebrated their 50th anniversary last year).

P.S.S. Anna Napiorkowska (that's how her name was addressed on the envelopes of the letters she received in Poland; died shortly within a few years after arriving in the U.S. (just after my father was born; she survived her husband, Piotr, my paternal great-grandfather, by 2 decades; I believe his father was Marjan/Marcin/Marceli?); Anna gained her citizenship status within a year & spoke English fluently; her son, my paternal grandfather John (or Jan/Janeh) spoke 5 languages in total; I don't know very much about her (long story to why my paternal grandfather couldn't tell me much) but from what I've heard I'm VERY proud of my ancestry, as well as my Polish heritage (I've been told I was the favorite grandchild out of seven by my father, although I didn't think that was fair to my one sibling (who passed in 1989) and my cousins, and I'm sure this had something to do with me looking more like this part of my family than anyone & that I was literally the "baby" of both sides of my family until my own daughter was born 23 yrs ago (she's currently pregnant but is the youngest where I'm now the 2nd youngest, which will change once her child is born in early September). My daughter, though, is half-British (and a little Spaniard), so I'm the last one who is not a "mutt" as we say in the U.S. (my father married my Prussian/German mother so that's my other half, but I would say that's closer to being "pure" in the U.S. than my cousins' mixture with British, which they greatly favor as well as my daughter; all in all, there are not many - at least where I live in the U.S. - that have both sides from a similar part of Europe as I do & look like I was born in Poland/Prussia according to everyone who has ever commented to me about this during my entire life...more often than not those remarks were unsolicited so I know I do 'stand out' look-wise a bit). One last thing, my daughter wants to name her daughter by combining my paternal great-grandmother and maternal grandmother names - Anna and Stacia (née Korzun), respectively, to create Annastacia (my daughter married a man who is half-French, half-British, so my grandchild will be the typical U.S. "mutt," although I thoroughly dislike using this common U.S. term, she will indeed represent most of Europe; she even will have an Italian last name as my son-in-law is adopted but he found his biological parents, which certified the French/British ancestry).
janina2016   
27 Jul 2016
Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [367]

Merged: Do I look Polish?

Where I grew up in the U.S. even my elementary school classmates thought I look like I was from a very specific European country but not exactly sure where (they did not think I looked like I was from France, UK, Italy, Greece; if I looked Spaniard they would probably thought I was from the Caribbean, Mexico,and/or Central/South American). If they understood the way my last name looked then they probably would guess correctly. I had the same classmates throughout all of my pre-college years. Again, for those who didn't know what my last name was or the ethnicity based on the way it was spelled I also got this inquiry about my heritage from adults in my workplace, as well as many others (i.e. grocery store), and it was unsolicited. Apparently there's not a lot of people who look like me where I still live (I really am often told I look unique) as I don't look "American" enough. I get a lot of compliments by the opposite sex but who knows if it's truly for that purpose. Anyhow, apparently I look less "American" than my cousins (they look British, or typical "American" as many would say being the first founders of the U.S. as they are half British unlike myself; my sibling was killed at a young age so it's hard to say if he would face the same thing). Finally, before I got a chance to spend ample time with my grandparents I was at least told by them that out of the entire family I look like I was born in Poland. So I wonder if I inherited features that skipped a generation? No matter what the answer I am content with my uniqueness...just wondering if it's not so unique had I lived somewhere else (wish I had my grandparents to ask this instead & I checked online as to what other Polish people look like, although, I'm sure it's more complicated than doing a Google search). I know when I get my first chance to visit Poland I will definitely get my answer! But if anyone can nicely assist me I would be extremely grateful (I admit I have always felt alone in this aspect...like not having a group I can identify with); thank you in advance!





janina2016   
27 Jul 2016
Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [367]

Thanks for your answer and taking the time to answer! As the absolute youngest & last one left of both sides of the family, I was told I was a 'purebred' by both sets of grandparents in my family a long time ago (they are no longer here & haven't been for some time) so I guess I should just go along with that...even if I look more Polish than a generation older than me (I mean over that 1,000+ years my grandparents have claimed their Roman Catholic ancestors to live in Poland I'm sure neighboring countries crossed borders; I do have hundreds of pictures from the 1800s to confirm to that time period; I just happen to look the most Polish of my family & apparently my community who can not figure me out; so I guess I didn't inherit some possible German accents & possibly Scottish due to that huge 16th century migration that maybe my parents & their siblings did; I mean, at best, I look like a younger sibling to my grandparents instead of their granddaughter based I those photos, so I can deduce it from that too). It still will be interesting to see how 'pure' I am when I do the ancestry DNA test soon just for the heck of it.

Confidently Polish (who needs to learn to speak/write it again & would like my family to move back there again if they'll have us),

Janina

Meant to add this about the attached images:
I do not have any makeup on in these pics except lip gloss; my father took these randomly & recently, and I get a lot of compliments as to how they are an accurate representation of me (I've been told the 1st one is somewhat a weird angle than I think I look...but I do have some cheekbones so I included it for the facial features alone!).

Correction: The 1st posted pic wasn't the one I originally attached. Oh well. That' s me with my ex-boyfriend who is now my very best friend (not an ex for anything terrible obviously) who is half-German & half-Canadian French. A lot of my friends are no more than 1st/2nd generation Europeans like I am. He's got great bone structure (at one time he really did look like Hugh Grant oddly enough; although, a lot of my 1st generation UK, German & Dutch friends know that there is some overlapping in portions of the populations there; I know mainly the ones of the Royal family...as I hear most often...but I know there of many others); anyway, people often point out he looks like he's born from somewhere else too. But I guess I'm the only one who is full Polish or Prussian apparently (which he appreciates thankfully)!
janina2016   
27 Jul 2016
Genealogy / What does it mean for surname to be included in Herb PRUS III? Napierkowski. [8]

Thank you so much Veles for your reply. You have been extremely helpful. The people who knew the most about my family history (both sets of grandparents that moved here from Poland) stated to me when I was young (just before they passed) that they can trace my maternal ancestors to the 7th century in Silesia, which I know theoretically is in Poland, and my paternal ones to 9th century in Poland. I believe Prussia came after the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and/or Kingdom of Poland (I'm still learning) when other countries got territorial so I'm not sure why I mentioned it except to say I was told I was 'pure' Polish until there was some possible German/Dutch mix via intermarriage when that happened (also, it's possible that I have some Scottish from when there was a heavy migration to Poland in the 16th century). In any event, I will be having a DNA ancestry test to confirm soon, which as I stated before would be something my father would especially like to see before he passes (he's almost 80 & he thinks his time is coming soon but I'm hopeful he has a lot more time). My father has been the patriarch and only male of the last part of our family branch for over 26 years (I'm the official last 'pure' one with surname & even though I'm a female I'm including my surname on my headstone; hopefully I'll be buried in my family's mausoleum where my only sibling is & my parents will be).

Respectfully,
Janina
janina2016   
27 Jul 2016
Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [367]

Thank you Poleboy765. My father mentions how we are like Czech's all the time so I will talk to him about this a bit more.

I attached pics of my 23 yr old daughter (she was 22 at the time of the pics; we both look young so we have that in common at least). She dyes her hair black (her natural is medium brown & she's an extremely talented artist with singing & sketching....hence the piercings, at least in her case). She has beautiful doe eyes (not to sound bias but since she doesn't look like me; she favors her father's UK side that has a little hint of European Spaniard...like no more than 1/8th but her eyes are darker than mine). Her face is more symmetrical than mine and shaped completely different (as well as her nose, ears,lips & body type; the only thing I'm told by everyone that we have in common is are chin). Anyway, this is an example of how different we are. She thinks I'm beautiful & I think she is but I wish we looked a little bit more alike. She dues to give birth to a daughter the first week of September that she's naming after her maternal great grandmother & great-great grandmother (she's combining their names Anna & Stasia and using my name as her daughter's middle name. I'm honored! This will then make my daughter the 2nd youngest & me the 3rd youngest in my entire family.

Again, I REALLY appreciate your time!

Respectfully,
Janina





janina2016   
9 Aug 2016
Genealogy / What does it mean for surname to be included in Herb PRUS III? Napierkowski. [8]

THANK YOU SO MUCH VELES (sorry for the caps but I didn't know how to express my appreciation enough)! I can not tell you enough how much my 1st generation father (who lost his whole family at a young age in the U.S.) and I am the only surviving descendant of our Napierkowski (or the singluar version, Napiórkowska, that my my great-grandmother used still while living in Poland & probably tried to keep in the U.S. but with my grandfather being brought over with her when they immigrated it probably ended up being recorded as Napierkowski; everything was in handwriting & phonetically interpreted; I always figured too that maybe the matriarch of a family or a single female last name reverted to ending in an "a" where the male or neutral ended in an "i"...I'm probably wrong so please feel free to correct me as that was my best guess when asked why my name doesn't end in an "a" as certain actresses, for example, which was very often). Also, please accept my sincerest apology for the lengthiness of this post (especially the rambling). I just got discharged from the hospital after being there for over a week for a very lifesaving operation (I'm doing extremely well and I'm going to be better than okay as my quality of life will better than it was before; just right now it's affecting how I convey things as they operation included part of the lower part of my brain). I wouldn't blame you at all if this as too much for you to read (I still thank you for even looking at it).

As far as the Baltic roots my father that definitely makes since. My father always told me that he was certain we were Slavic, maybe part Czechoslovakian. The village of Napierki (when I guess we might have hailed even though it just seems like this small area consists of crossroads of major highways & one or two local establishments...in other words, not residential at all - from what I've seen in any photos of Polish-based publications regarding the area - but I understand things evolve the way they need to) is located near or in Olsztyn, so northeast Poland. I always wondered if we were part Swedish (due to my Swedish friends who have similar somewhat slanted eyes but that might be from the Mongol Invasion of Europe or that there was one specifically in Poland 3x; my eyes are hazel brown but my mom's entire side are blue & my father's side are a mixture of light blue to solid green (not hazel green) to hazel, & light brown; I feel like I can relate to how Prince George inherited his eye color and I'm at peace with my eye color in general; besides brown being dominate it seems to be even more so in my case especially since only 5% of my extended family have brown eyes where at least 70% have blue (to give an idea of the extremes). Plus, my Polish grandparents that have somewhat slanted eyes have one child that doesn't have this slant out of the three children they had and my daughter - though she's not full-Polish - like the others, didn't inherit the slant as well so I guess it's not that dominant; anyhow, I know there's mixing to explain this but since I'm only the 2nd U.S. born generation and we've been able to trace the roots in Poland from 1936 going back to 1,000 yrs depending on what side of my family I've noticed that Poland seemed more homogeneous when it comes to any significant mixing...for good or bad; thus, I thought maybe I found my 'true' home possibly, which if so, I feel VERY lucky especially since as I've said (probably a few times throughout a couple of posts) I'm the last one in my branch; lastly, I'm somewhat sad that I don't see one Napierkowski listed in Poland anymore as all the ones listed in the world almost all live in the U.S. according to my extensive research (some reside in Germany but none live in Poland if all these sources are correct; and I wonder if that has to do with WWII like with my family moving in the late 1930s even though they were Catholic and/or what happened to Poland post-war, or from 1945-1989).

Finally, my maternal side, Schaf (also spelled Schaff...again, most likely due to a wrong phonetic interpretation written in handwriting upon immigration), is said to be one of the Silesia's last noble families dating back to the 13th century that is on record (specifically, the House of Schaff-Gotsch that was based on the knight, Gotsche II Schaff; there was aristocracy on that side but I only find this knight relation interesting because it was recorded). The most important thing about this finding (that I've heard a lot from that side of the family when I was a child) is that it seems to affirm the association with the area of Silesia (I'm extremely sad to say during her lifetime my maternal grandmother only wanted to focus on being considered German by denying all Polish roots; thankfully, my maternal grandfather or her husband fought against Nazi Germany during WWII). She even held it against my father for making the family more Polish (he's proven to be a great provider to assist my hard-working mother so she's been content with that but she treated since I was born in a poor manner by disassociating herself - i.e. saying 'you look nothing like me' in the most negative way - because of how much more Polish I was and the rest of my family knew I unfairly suffered a lot for this).

Again thank you for for your assistance, your prompt response, and your patience with this post. I'm sure you didn't expect this extensive response and as I recover I'll probably regret that I wrote this much & bothered you (or anyone else reading this) with regards to some of these personal issues. I just wanted to thank you by posting this soon because I was told by my doctors that it could take until December before I really am able to resume a 'normal' life (again, when I get through all the recovery I'll be better than ever so I feel very fortunate for that...just timing was bad would be my biggest complaint especially for my family). All the best!

Respectfully,
Janina

P.S. Attached I put 2 pictures of how I look to give an idea about what I was talking about in the 2nd paragraph.

P.S.S. I just got a message about a large amount of the Napierkowscy family (not direct relatives to me that I know of but who knows?) migrated to Nowogród before moving to the U.S., which is about one hour and a half away from Napierki, and this former Polish city still has a decent population (no name of Napierkowski listed presently in Poland as I stated in a previous post). So that's VERY interesting as maybe that's where my ancestors ended up if they did in fact originally hail from the village of Napierki (the origin of Napierkowski; also, I've been told it could be a variant of Napiorac, that means 'to advocate' or as a result of the Scottish Napier clan when a lot of Scottish migrated to Poland in the 16th century; I do like 'to advocate' because it sort of relates to my career). Now if I can only find the one missing link, or origin of the only name in our tree that I can't find a record anywhere...Korzunowski or Korzonowski...again, due to phonetic interpretation written in possible illegible handwriting (last record of immigration to U.S. from Poland was 1909)!





janina2016   
9 Aug 2016
Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [367]

Thank you Poloboy765 for your prompt response! Yes, I forgot to say 'doe-shaped' eyes (I think I just said 'doe eyes) & it works well with her shape of face, which a lot of very nice people called 'heart-shaped' (I really appreciate that you said she looks like me so I admit I'm being biased but I know my face isn't 'heart-shaped' but I'm okay with my own & I'm happy for her individual looks...of course, what's inside is the most important).

Here's one last picture (unfortunately the lighting isn't the best but it's not edited at all - I'm not good at doing that & I don't feel good if anyone does it on behalf as I guess I'm sort of old-fashioned that way - & it was taken in my childhood home's foyer; on a side note: I'm so fortunate my parents still live there as it's extremely rare in the part of the U.S. where I live; they're now actively searching to downsize after 41 yrs as they're almost 80 yrs old & 76 yrs old, respectively, so that will be a little hard as far as missing the house & I lost my brother there, but of course I want the best for them...maybe we can move back to Poland?).

All the best!
Janina