Life / Polish people are the most ignorant people in the world! [331]


And what's wrong with having that opinion? Japanese thinks their own people look the best, so does Poles, Norwegians, Danes, Germans, Austrians, Russians, the Swiss etc. It has nothing to do with ignorance.

As for saying «Poland is not the best at anything», the country has first been run over by the Germans, than the Sovjets, and then been under the stranglehold of Stalinism and the communism that followed for decades, only to free itself in 1989. Many of the Western countries have had a head start. I think that if the Sovjet rulers would have withdrawn immediately after the war, Poland would be much wealthier than many western countries such as Spain, Greece, France and Portugal on a per capita basis. There are plenty of intelligent people in the country. They have, on a per capita basis, more scientific Nobel Prizes than e.g. Japan - which by most is considered country with a highly intelligent population.

Work / Polish nurses, gender and salary [32]

Thank you for great input peterweg!


Good point. I think they are welcome too. They do bring something to an (often) female dominated workplace.

"they become doctors for ego reasons" Ohh yes, I agree.

I agree, it's very common among male nurses to be gay. But that's fine really. If the male nurse (gay or not) does have children, he often have a partner who takes care of them at home (man or woman). I think females aren't so keen on leaving their children at home with their man, going abroad to work. At least that's how it is at home. At the fishing boats (which is a huge industry) there are barely females, even in the gender neutral positions like stewards who cook all the food. In the oil industry also, it's common for males to work a couple of weeks offshore, long holiday - repeat. But females want to quit that work once they have babies.

I see it's not that super rare for men to be nurses in other countries (perhaps it'll change in Poland as well?). Here's some gender data.

United states, 14% of the nurses are male.
Israel, 13% are male.
Italy, 27% are male.
Mexico, 9% are male.
Norway, 10% are male (other source)
Sweden, 10% are male (other source)

(from "Method", 2.1. Participants, "Comparisons of American, Israeli, Italian andMexican physicians and nurses on the total andfactor scores of the Jefferson scale of attitudestoward physician-nurse collaborative relationships")


I know it's from this forum. That's why I posted the link to this forum. It's an archived thread, so it couldn't be bumped.

Work / Polish nurses, gender and salary [32]

The reason gender matters to me is that men actually are more often flexible when it comes to working e.g. 2 weeks abroad, than 4 week holiday - repeat. (that type of work will - of course - me beneficial to the economy in Poland, because they don't spend while they work, and they come home with plenty -- whereas those who simply migrate don't leave much money at home, they just leave with an education...).

Women more often have little children to care of at home, so they are more reluctant to do such work. So, that's why I wonder if there are many men who take the education. E.g. if it's 1/10 or perhaps more/less.

Work / Polish nurses, gender and salary [32]

In which Polish cities do they offer a BSc in nursing? (if anyone has college/university names than that would be super)

Here's some info about whether or not a BSc is required ("All nurses now (since 2001) have to complete a 3 year BSc education in a medical university." polishforums.com/archives/2009/work-study-43/are-nurses-graded-poland- typical-salary-31010/ Title: "How are nurses graded in Poland and what is their typical salary?")

Can anyone weigh in about the wages? (kind of differing answers)
Joo Woo: "I was recently speaking to a qualified nurse here in Poland, who works in a local leather factory. She says the pay is better, at 1300 PLN a month, than the wage of a newly qualified nurse!"

jacob_89: My mother is a nurse and she earns about 3500 zł brutto nowadays.
normski: "Nurse salaries range from about GBP400 to GBP800 per month depending on position"

Does anyone know anything about this:
uncle betty: 2. Is the Nursing High School Diploma a recognised EU standard, that would allow the holder to register as a nurse in another EU country ?

mafketis: (From talks I've had with people in nursing (warning: this is all second hand information) 2. I don't think so. The Polish government purposely tried to make it as hard as possible for Polish nursing qualifications to be recognized outside of Poland for fear of hastening emigration by nurses. Basically, most of the people in nursing training programs now don't really intend on working in Poland anymore than they have to, nursing is what you might call an 'emigration degree'. That said, Polish nursing training does not suffer in comparison with training in Western Europe and when they can learn the local language Polish nurses are in demand across Western Europe.

SzwedwPolsce This [a BSc] is the minimum requirement to work as a nurse in Sweden.I know some Polish nurses with shorter education that wanted to go to Sweden to work, but could not.