News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]

Talk about being on the defensive

lets stick to the facts here to make things simple

BBC made a documentary showing a very real and serious problem of racism/ far right violence in domestic Polish and Ukraine football grounds. It is far worse than most European domestic leagues including the fixated upon problems in England.

The violence in the streets of London is completely unrelated and should not even enter any rational discussion. That violence was born out of disenfranchisement/ poverty/ lacl of opportunities. NOT far right nazi thinking.

The fact that so many on this forum are refusing to even acknowledge the severity of the problem highlighted by the BBC is very telling. Like a spoiled accused child many are quick to point out the problems of other countries but you need to look in the mirror first.

Remember, we are discussing Polish football hooliganism here

News / Don't go to Poland ... because you could end up coming back in a coffin [313]

Some fairly embarrassing comments here. Especially from the Poles which is surprising. Of course the BBC has its own agenda and the UK has its own problems but some of the scenes filmed in the documentary in question are very shocking. More so in Ukraine but I would suggest everyone who can watch, does so before getting angry here. The UK had similar problems and went about fixing it. They managed to do it but it took years and a lot of hard work. Even now they have the odd bit of trouble but in general going to football is a safe affair nowadays. it is clear form the filmed evidence in the documentary that the same can not be said about Poland.

This is not an attack on Polish people. Most people posting here love Poland and the people but it is surprising and a little disappointing that you do not accept you have a serious problem.