UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

ShawnH
That and if they are really skint, they can't afford the plane ticket.
Plane ticket? There are no runways at bay 19, Victoria Station, London.

Bill....you are havin' a flippin' laugh are you not? You're seriously advocating that unemployed reprobates from Poland should come to the UK and collects benefits because it is equal to or more than 6 months of work? Do you give me strength or what!! Thank you!

I tell you what I do Bill and I wasn't going to mention this since most here are debating at a reasonably intelligent level and I did not want to offend. Racism is illegal and is defined as offensive hate crime but it must be at a level which others can hear and witness.

Just stand very close to those you suspect (and they are easy to spot) and whisper in the woman's ear 'get the f*** out my country you effen bleep,bleep. Men might react in which you may have to pull off an actors innocent shock, horror pose ....women on the other hand those that bear the children that the NHS deliver, will become worried and pressurize their man to leave fearing worse reprisals which will endanger them when they are on their own.

Good post. Thank you.

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Sally and Paticja....your comments are astounding, they just blow me away. You tell me why the hell this country should take on and handout benefits to Polish people who up until 2004 would have had a hard time trying to pin exactly where UK was on the map. they know now alright courtesy of their Benefits handbook they receive on the National Express coach.

People like you have no idea that British scroungers here (long term unemployed) arn't exactly discouraged from their slothful activities since the army has to recruit from somewhere. You may find this hard to believe but the army recruitment process is much more successful in depressed mining valleys in Wales,Scotland and the bleak housing areas of north east England than Hampstead Heath in London.

Now, as soon as there is a call up where do you think your average Pole scrounger will be . Poles don't join armies, they don't box, they don't play rugby. they are not noted much for doing anything that is physical.

What is wrong with you people. If I didn't understand your communist background, I would swear you were all sub-human.

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No threats 'arry. Just a ploy knowing that they in turn will pressurize their 'men' 24/7 and I use the word lightly, to leave.

Women have their offspring to think about and must weigh up all the odds before thinking of money.

Polonia / Polish community in Indonesia? [3]

Why would you seek out a polish community in Indonesia. The reason you are there is to experience other cultures, creeds, habits etc. What is wrong with you?

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Bad monkey.....oh I don't doubt that there were some poles who were daft enough to join some army somewhere. There were poles in Iraq and Afghanistan were there? And whose uniforms were they wearing?

Yes I know that there are polish heroes.....

sorry ...I didn't mean to post that link. Ignore this and look at this.....

Wrong link ? No worries, I've deleted them for you.

..sorry ,wrong link again, this is the one I seek.

Bad Monkey....i could not give a dam if Poles and other EE's were on welfare, working or swinging from trees. I don't want them here full stop. They are not like Germans, French, italians, Aussies etc. They come to milk the system and subsequently reduce this country to a nightmare doing jobs for the elitists that no self respecting person would do. They are communists for Gods sake. They see this as a paradise.

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Ironside...

When one makes the move from “administrator” to the dizzy heights of “senior” administrator, it is more than the job title which changes. On documents and emails, and name badges and things like that, the promoted person can inform those interested that they push paper in a “senior” capacity, thereby giving other lowly “administrators” something to look at to distinguish one paper pusher from another. A visible difference is vital. Visible perks – from a change in job title to a huge corner office – are as important as the private financial perks which are offered in return for obedience. (They may be more important, actually, but are certainly no less so; either way, the basis of advancement is obedience.) :

“We have team spirit stamped upon our heads by managers whose noses are all the same shade of brown. And hardly do the managers work alone in their subjugation of the spirit, this assault on individuality; there are the managers’ obsequious lap-dogs – the senior administrators – with their slobbering mouths and hungry tongues. They whisper, gossip and report back, hoping to curry favour in return for a detestable brownie point, a faecal treat, peeled from the nose of their master and licked off the fingers with glee.”

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1. Why should they be in the UK working when there are 3-6 million unemployed Britons here. If they are that clever why are they not putting their monumental work ethic to the benefit of their OWN country?

2. What do you define as a successful company? A media/marketing/advertising conglomerate? Part of the reason that these heinous industries exist is because they have poles in low level positions propping them up doing all their dirty work. If you all went home there would be such a shift here. You are actually destroying this nation even further with your blind obedience abd cringe worthy subservience all for a few quid.

You have absolutely no pride other than believing that if you are in gainful employment you must be a success. This is the folly of your communist breeding. Big bosses love you for sure but what you take out of this country in terms of welfare, infrastructure, health, education is far more than what you put into it .

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Where the blame lies is with the politicians of this country who opened the floodgates and let people in who they knew would do their work for them. Britain was the only country not to put a cap on the amount of Poles coming here and it's obvious why. Unlike the other European countries, we have a rigid, established class system here and the working class were getting 'to big for their boots' so it made sense to bring in obedient puppy dogs who have no history of questioning their masters.

Game set and match.....except that people are starting to fight back slowly.

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I did not know this ukpolak. Here was me logging on to a Polish forum site with the names of the people having one vowel between them (rcjzzllinski) and it turns out no one is Polish here.

I should really have guessed all along shouldn't I ?

Careful how you go, oxon

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To the Mod who deleted my link. I posted that link re the Polish criminal for a reason.

Poland opted out the prisoner transfer scheme and it seems like Poland simply sent their worst criminals to the UK. that is not anti-Polish, but simply a statement of fact. Castro opened the jails & nut-houses, deposited the criminal & insane on to boats and sent them into the waiting & compassionate arms of Uncle Sam.

I believe the authorities in Poland are working along similar lines, with soft-touch Britain molly-coddling Poland's human refuge, they still arrive daily even though they know theres no work.

I can't see how the establishment of Polish ghettos across the British Isles can aid our cause, as times worsen and with the arrival of the Polish mafia only the truly blinkered can fail to see what fate awaits our own people.

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That's right Paiwan........they are OUR native thugs. Like all societies all over the world we have a crime problem and it's bigger than most bar America. (You would have to understand the folly of unfettered capitalism to understand why).

What we sure as hell don't need are polak criminals being fed at the UK tax payers expense.

Since there is a lot of confusion on this site shortHairthug it would help to know what nationality you are as you seem very confused.

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I didn't know that revoke.

UK, Ireland / Can I as a Polish student here in UK start my own business? [8]

Yes Dawid..you can open your own business here, your own bank account, get free medication, sign on for welfare and do most things that are denied indigenous people.

You can even engage in racial abuse toward other people in your own language and not be charged. Life here is a beach for Poles.

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Do I have a problem with Polaks coming here n the thousands, doing jobs for the elitists so that they can buy bread, sign on welfare, take advantage of all the free NHS goodies on offer, take up rooms and flats that could be utilised by the local people, commit murders and be locked up here at the tax payers expense.

Do I have a problem with Polaks moving into the flat above me armed with their satellite dishes blaring out their programmes and generally being a pest to society.

No, I love 'em. We need more . Whats your beef SHT

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I wonder what you are talking about here. A pole advocating violence? Unheard of. They need assistance in that department as they always choose the easy way out in life. So you are telling me to 'go away' . Can I stay in UK please?

stop flaming

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Avalon..I left the UK almost as soon as I left school . I was lucky to get a job in Southern Africa with everything paid for. At the time I wondered what the locals thought of me coming to their country and reaping all the rewards whilst they were condemned to their shacks in sprawling ghettoes far away from where I lived. I put it out my mind as they seemed to be happy, smiley people pleased to do all my cleaning etc for a menial salary.

In time, I understood human nature better and realised that while those people were happy to be working for me, they were making the best of a system that was imposed upon them n a capitalist world. They didn't ask for someone to come to Africa and impose a monetary system upon them. A system which benefits few and leaves the majority fearful. I respected their patience, subservience, general good nature. I was naive. But after 1994 when the ANC came to power a lot of people demanded equal rights and when they didn't get them there was bloodshed and thousands of people died, not through warfare but general crime.

Only after the ANC came to power did a lot of people have the courage to say what had been on their minds for decades. The UK now is fearful but if we have the right leadership we can close the doors and start to look after our own before anythng else happens. This is what the elite fear. The 3 major parties don't give a dam who does the tireless, menial work for the corporates. They can be English, Pole, Lithuanian, Czech...as long as they perform.

If we can cease immigration with immediate effect and pull out the EU so that no one is allowed to come here unless they can make a meaningful contribution to our society in the form of skills and qualifications that cannot be fulfilled here for some reason then that is a start. I now live in Britain and i am British. I have a right to a voice over immigrants who come here simply because they can.

I have a right not to walk down the road in a London suburb and not see Polish or somalian woman pushing prams with 2 kids in tow knowing full well that they are on benefits being paid for by working people. I have a right to a dead end job if that is what I desire. I have the right to sustain my life in my own f****n country!

UK, Ireland / Increasingly more Polish children born and educated in UK can't write/read! [51]


i believe you are trying to justify your reasons for being in the UK (if that's where you are). Why are you here and why are all Poles so interested in learning English.

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Let me guess. You're a tree hugging, green wellington boot adorning, peace loving dude.

Let's see how you actually feel when you are out of work one day, you are needing a place to live and all around you are Poles, Latvians, Moldovians and whatever else living in the same block of flats as you 4 to a room., Let's see how you feel when the company under scrutiny presently who are responsible for getting British people back into work (A4e) have three Polish assistants greeting you at the door.

Let's see how you feel when you know that the directors and management of those companies that employ Poles have taken advantage of all the education and health benefits Britain has provided over the decades to keep (some) people able and healthy to do their work for them turn their backs on British people to employ Eastern Europeans who prostitute themselves by undercutting the local workforce.

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Good comments all .....not. nothing constructive to say at all but then maybe you are all stupid and lack a vocabulary in which case you will all more than likely be employed as you pose absolutely no threat to your masters.

I'm waiting for some Polish people to agree with me that the UK must get out of Europe. Will I be waiting until I breathe no more?

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No threats 'arry as I stated previously. Just a ploy. Sometimes one has to take extreme measures when our own politicians have abused our trust and betrayed us.

Monkey Brains....stupid people are the conformists, the ones who lick the faecal deposits in return for detestable brownie points. They are the ones I have to contend with as I now intend staying in the UK for a limited period only. Instead of being in a bargaining position, I find myself in competition with people with round faces and ludicrously short haircuts who have an accent that is barely decipherable.

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which is why you have no answer other than to criticise, Monkey Brains.

With one glaring difference 'arry. I am not going crawling and begging in another country for a job that will have an impact on a local person. i am not going anywhere where there are 2 million Brits all living in squalor and i most definitely not going to claim welfare in any country I choose to live in.

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This is the whole point of the debate Ironhead. I never accused Eastern migrants of anything illegal. What disgusts me is how not only me but my forefathers have been betrayed by the spineless, mercenary, career politicians whose first duty is to protect its citizens and secondly its currency. They have done the latter extremely well all right. Anyone belonging to a profession (and there are only five in case any misguided soul considers him/herself one ) should be able to apply for a position in any country he/she chooses as long as that position cannot be filled adequately by its members of its own public.

What we do not need is people here from ex communist countries doing jobs here that our own citizens can do. Sure they are grateful at first. UK is mighty big Utopia to begin with and they are all happy smiley and ever so friendly .....until they grow in numbers and realise that they have more power than the average UK citizen in terms of what and what we can't say to them .

I have and never will have anything in common with Eastern Europeans. That is fact. I do not like them or there demeanour but that is just my opinion.

How would you all react I wonder should 2 million Brits arrive at your doorstep and start to claim benefits?

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You're lucky avalon and in a fortunate position. No doubt you have nice neighbours in a nice suburb and you all get along splendidly using your pigeon Polish. How would your new countrymen respond though if you started hanging around in gangs n the middle of Warsaw's shopping malls, claiming benefits and living in flats depriving locals of accommodation ?

How would they feel that should you find work, there were 3/4 million Poles unemployed still looking?

We have a catastrophic problem here brought about by lazy, inept politicians.

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And I have no doubt that you would love to come back except that you can't afford it and deep down you know that the UK has gone belly up. Mass migration has totally ruined this country and if you came back 'arry , I will take you along to my meetings just to give you an idea of what some people here intend to do about it. We are not all lazy good for nothings you know.

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I'm not sure what industry you 'work hard' in 'arry but I will take your word that it is not some kind of service orientated, marketing, advertising bulldust industry that serves no useful purpose other than to inflict the dumb masses with momentary lapses of worthlessness whilst instilling grandiose expectations of materialistic superiority.

You sound rather genuine to me 'arry but i do wonder why you would send British Nationalist to a place like South Georgia. Would it be to meet South Georgian nationalists and swap Powerpoint presentations?

Like i have emphasized many times now, there is no need for threats. My behaviour is a ploy which should I make public to more than one person will see me quite possibly incarcerated.

You are losing face here 'arry but you may continue with your rhetorical, clichéd nonsense.

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A bold statement 'arry and in order to comprehend fully where you are coming from, I would need to understand your industry which seemingly bars Poles from applying. Do tell what your role is in your working life and your industry title please?

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I don't seem to remember being asked my opinion in this wonderfully biased report by Joanna Fomina, Justyna Frelak called 'The Perception of Poles in Great Britain' which is funded by the University of Finland.

It's important to remember that all polls need funding and it's the agenda of the company funding the analysis or report that must be examined. I could spend a life time asking institutions media and people in the street if they know anything or were consulted regarding perception of Poles in the UK and I most certainly would draw a blank.

Instytut Spraw Publicznych did not publish this report because it was full of negativity about Poles in Britain did they? Now there is a huge surprise. I hope the family of the victims get consulted for their opinion..

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-17055609

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You seem very naive badmonkey....incredibly so. Do you know what a think tank is? They are lobbyists whose sole function in life is to pester politicians with enough material and opinion to make them change or alter some sort of traditional policy or viewpoint that has been seen as normal for a long time.

And then once this happens it opens your eyes as to who funds those grotesquely named 'think tanks'. At the end of that document I read it stated that it was written and constructed by the 'University of Finland'. Now, what you should do brainless monkey is to get hold of the two people mentioned at the top of the paper and the Finnish university and ask them where they got the funds to conduct such a poll.

A lot of time, materials and coverage and that costs money. Just the same when the pharmaceutical companies come out with a new wonder drug. They have an independent body of 'experts' who analyse and write about the wonders of this new drug praising t to the hilt. Then you go to companies house or the British Library and ....shock horror.... the Independent company are funded by the very self same pharma company.

You come back when you are all grown up

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There's 2 million of them here Jimmu. Some take the jobs others could do....tradesmen, bus drivers, admin staff, the list is endless and some come for the benefits.

Poles don't behave like French, German etc. They act like 3rd world refugees and have no concept of Western culture. it's acutely embarrassing to be labelled Caucasian alongside them. No dignity.

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In a word 'No' Barney. I have no time whatsoever for the small minded parochial mindset that is rampant in Scotland right now. Wee Alex is suffering from disillusionment.

No time on here to discuss my manifesto. No one would read it here in any case.