News / Germany provoke Poland using Silesian question. Poland's attitude ? [124]

I am the same gorol as you are, Torq, in relation to hanys, the latter being the name the Silesians style themselves. The bad luck of the Silesian was all nations around have been trying to make them German, Poles or Czech. While they are Silesians, and you will not change it, Torq, same as nobody was ever able to change it.

I liked these phrases from the cabaret the most:
-- My Onkel living in Germany has been coming to see me every year for 20 years. And he has been always complaining how bad the life in Deutschland was...

-- Yeah, I have an uncle in Germany too. Every year he was bringing me a 2-Euro wine box as a gift, I mean Geschenk...

-- Nay, nay, what you are showing is a 5-Euro wine box, the 2-Euro box is of that size...
-- Yeah, easily fitting in the egg compartment of my fridge.

Travel / Off to Poznan in July - what the beer prices are like? [24]


Why don't you buy at a shop? It is PLN 3.50 per half liter ;-)

News / Germany provoke Poland using Silesian question. Poland's attitude ? [124]


Of course. A major Warsaw square is named after Sokrat Starynkiewicz, a Russian general, governor of Warsaw nominated by Tsar; Starynkiewicz was the man thanks to whom Warsaw has had the water supply and sewage system, he established street lights in 19th c. Warsaw and did a lot for charity. I doubt Torq has known about this.


Or reconstructed Slavic Svetovid temple at Cape Arkona, Rügen island in Germany.

News / Germany provoke Poland using Silesian question. Poland's attitude ? [124]


Did the people at the wedding speak "śląsko godka" in your presence? I regret the cabaret's RAK song "To boł Welt" has been removed from YouTube... There is a splendid Silesian joke:

A Silesian church band prepares for a song. The leader asks the band members:
-- Posaunen fertig?
-- Jaaaa!
-- Trompeten fertig?
-- Jaaa!
-- Schlagzeug fertig?
-- Jaaa!
-- Kapelle bereit?
-- JAAAA!
-- Also! Eins, zwei, drei! Boże coś Polskę...

(Get it, Seanus?)

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Yes, I was just joking you had to be a rich man only having the beer out ;-) On the other hand, I pay 6 zloty at Gniazdo Piratów, so it really depends where you drink in Warsaw.

News / Germany provoke Poland using Silesian question. Poland's attitude ? [124]


Because the Silesian are as much German as Polish or Czech... Will you get it into your brain finally?


Unluckily, you comment on something you do not know anything about.

News / Germany provoke Poland using Silesian question. Poland's attitude ? [124]


What numbers? Numbers "prove" that Polish Silesians are Poles and the Czech Silesian are Czech. Of course, German Oberschlesier are all German. What makes me rather surprised Seanus is you were at a Silesian wedding (hopefully it was in some sąsiedztwo = neighbourhood), you eat Silesian meal every day and you still cannot see the reality.

Just cross the Brynica river, say something in Silesian aloud and you'll have your numbers printed on your face ;-)

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I must then say sorry for my poor English, Sean. If you read some post of mine I wrote before, you could read different ethnic groups melted into Silesians long time ago. From the moment the concept of nationalism started ruling fates of nations, Silesians were forced to assume the nationality of the State currently at the power. This does not change the fact the Silesians remain the Silesians.

Your example, Sean, is very good. One of my friends living in lower Silesia is born of both German parents, still she cannot speak German at all and she identifies herself as a Pole. I know many people in Silesia with both grandparents being German; and such people cannot speak German, yet they visit their grandparents in the Heimat ;-)

Having partly Silesian family, you should be aware who's hanys and who's gorol the best, shouldn't you?

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The problem the Silesians are facing, Sean, is they don't know which way to go themselves. You mentioned Marek Szołtysek once. The guy is respected as a Silesian Moses ;-) yet he believes the Silesian is a dialect, and this is not a popular view in Ruda Śląska, for instance. Based on my understanding of the Silesian mentality, they will just let the things happen.

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Amen.

Off-Topic / Countries and your associations in 5 words/descriptions. [56]

United Kingdom: Real Ale, Bovril/Marmite/Fish & Chips, the Home of Punk-Rock, roundabouts, separate taps for cold & hot water, great people
The United States: Bad food, terrible coffee, stupid pastimes, the Home of Acoustic, Electric & Bass Guitar, great people
Finland: Bad coffee, ugly women, cold & sun always low, silent people/Finnish knives, great schnaps
Norway: Boredom, expensive, no alcohol, knife fighters, great nature
Denmark: Jolly Danes, bicycles, the Mermaid, good wine & tobacco, friendship
Czech Republic: Fried cheese, knedlicky & garlic soup, interesting language, interesting places, interesting people
Slovak Republic: the most, hopeless, country, in, Europe.
Hungary: Great wines, gulyasleves, puszta, Balaton, brethren
Israel: Historically, interesting, pile, of, stone.

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Slovakia is expected to be a tourist country. Take a car and drive northwards from the Hungarian border via Banska Bystrica in the direction of Poland on a March Sunday and try finding a place to eat, we are not talking Bratislava ;-) Or, drop somewhere to Slovakia on Saturday night (not Bratislava!) and try to get a nice dinner ;-)

Try to get good food after you have found the place.

Try to find a hotel en route ;))))))))))))))))))

The chances to be caught in a police speed-trap are higher than the combined chance of finding a place to eat, good food and a hotel )