AntV
2 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
Vile tweets. I'd be surprised if it was representative of most the country, though.
Vile tweets. I'd be surprised if it was representative of most the country, though.
AntV
2 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
Oh, I'm sure there's some Scotch, Welsh, Irish, USians, Germans, Poles, Ghanese, NZers, Bolivians, etc. who give such crap.
Oh, I'm sure there's some Scotch, Welsh, Irish, USians, Germans, Poles, Ghanese, NZers, Bolivians, etc. who give such crap.
AntV
2 Jul 2021
AntV
2 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
I guess that caused a louder response. Not so sure. If it did, it is shameless and dark and pitiful. It also wouldn't be so surprising, the general culture has become more classless. I wonder how much if it has to do with people on the internet being able to comment on anything from afar protected by anonymity (hell, think about all the tough talk, sniping, and peurile personal bashing that goes on here on PF). It's bound to carry over into other forums, ie being lost among the masses in a stadium.
Not sure I articulated that well, but you get the point.
Bottom line: class, sportsmanship, and respect is desperately needed!!! A friendly jab is one thing, but when you really mean it-completely different.
I come from an American football background, so I like the more overtly physical style of English soccer, as long as it isn't done consciously to injure another.
I guess that caused a louder response. Not so sure. If it did, it is shameless and dark and pitiful. It also wouldn't be so surprising, the general culture has become more classless. I wonder how much if it has to do with people on the internet being able to comment on anything from afar protected by anonymity (hell, think about all the tough talk, sniping, and peurile personal bashing that goes on here on PF). It's bound to carry over into other forums, ie being lost among the masses in a stadium.
Not sure I articulated that well, but you get the point.
Bottom line: class, sportsmanship, and respect is desperately needed!!! A friendly jab is one thing, but when you really mean it-completely different.
There is something profoundly wrong about English perception of the game
I come from an American football background, so I like the more overtly physical style of English soccer, as long as it isn't done consciously to injure another.
AntV
2 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
Italy is poised.
'Night. I'm on the road all day tomorrow, BB, send me some updates on Chechia-Denmark.
Italy is poised.
'Night. I'm on the road all day tomorrow, BB, send me some updates on Chechia-Denmark.
AntV
6 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
I missed most of the game. See it went to penalties. A Denmark-Italy final would be nice! This tourney is dramatic.
I missed most of the game. See it went to penalties. A Denmark-Italy final would be nice! This tourney is dramatic.
AntV
7 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
Penalty my ass!
Danes look tired.
Viva l'Italia! England will have their hands full, if denmark doesn't pull this out.
Penalty my ass!
Danes look tired.
Our last hope will be the Italians now
Viva l'Italia! England will have their hands full, if denmark doesn't pull this out.
AntV
7 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
I'm vacationing in FL in the middle of a hurricane...lost satellite TV signal...I take it Game's over with England advancing?
I'm vacationing in FL in the middle of a hurricane...lost satellite TV signal...I take it Game's over with England advancing?
AntV
7 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
:) I'll take that as an invitation...should I keep with the Italian theme and bring some wine or do you prefer some Peroni beer?
Sunday here....with pizza and gelato! 👀
:) I'll take that as an invitation...should I keep with the Italian theme and bring some wine or do you prefer some Peroni beer?
AntV
9 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
Yes, easy: needing to comment on sports being inconsequential and boring. :)
I'll give you that some, or many, treat sports like a religion, but when enjoyed as a game, sports are wonderful. Competition is one of those core human interactions. It employs strategy, preparation, durability, adaptability, decision-making, overcoming obstacles, finesse, strength, etc. plus, it's really fun.
You ever play any competitive sports, Novichok?
Can anyone name a less consequential and more boring activity than watching sports
Yes, easy: needing to comment on sports being inconsequential and boring. :)
I'll give you that some, or many, treat sports like a religion, but when enjoyed as a game, sports are wonderful. Competition is one of those core human interactions. It employs strategy, preparation, durability, adaptability, decision-making, overcoming obstacles, finesse, strength, etc. plus, it's really fun.
You ever play any competitive sports, Novichok?
AntV
9 Jul 2021
AntV
9 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
The Supreme Court ruled last month that ncaa athletes can now benefit monetarily from their name, image, and likeness. It's about time! Dulls the ncaa's exploitative practice.
It's horribly corrupt and exploitative of the players (most of whom have no business at a university)
The Supreme Court ruled last month that ncaa athletes can now benefit monetarily from their name, image, and likeness. It's about time! Dulls the ncaa's exploitative practice.
AntV
11 Jul 2021
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11 Jul 2021
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11 Jul 2021
AntV
11 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
AMEN!!!!
@BB
What did Southgate say about WWII?
Let's hope that this Euros final will mark the end of taking the knee, and we won't see it again in football.
AMEN!!!!
@BB
What did Southgate say about WWII?
AntV
12 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
He made it to the Euro finals and planned a pretty solid scheme that almost won the game. Not what I'd call a born loser.
He made it to the Euro finals and planned a pretty solid scheme that almost won the game. Not what I'd call a born loser.
AntV
12 Jul 2021
News / Poland Sports News [985]
Bizarre! How many in the stadium during the game against Germany were even alive during the blitz? A bunch of non-sense.
it-played-a-role-southgate-with-an-absurd-world-war-comparison/
Bizarre! How many in the stadium during the game against Germany were even alive during the blitz? A bunch of non-sense.
AntV
17 Jul 2021
News / Poland to get the newest version of M1A2 Abrams tank [90]
If there was to be an EU army, wouldn't there need to be more than 2-percent spent to build and maintain such a force?
Oathbreaker is Grunni? Makes sense--sensible fellow.
.but mainly to get away from the US led NATO umbrella and those "2 percent"....
If there was to be an EU army, wouldn't there need to be more than 2-percent spent to build and maintain such a force?
What? You would make a great soldier, Grunni. Keep trying!
Oathbreaker is Grunni? Makes sense--sensible fellow.
AntV
17 Jul 2021
Polonia / Which country is better SPAIN or POLAND [100]
@Oathbreaker
I wouldn't say that lack of microscopes and lack of development in health sciences meant the Spaniards and other early American explorers did not know that disease was infecting the Indian population. We know they were well aware of the spread and ravage of diseases like smallpox and measles.
The proof for the claim of the Spanish purposely spreading disease is pretty weak. I'm unaware of any well-vetted credible historical claims that the Spanish were offering infected blankets. There is some proof that the Brits tried...once. And, there is no proof it was effective. history.com/news/colonists-native-americans-smallpox-blankets
That's undeniable for the vast majority. But, there were those who did want to spread civilization and Christianity. You can argue whether or not that's just or noble, but there certainly were a good number of early settler/explorers from Europe who thought it to be just and noble.
It's not like the native peoples were not brutal in their treatment of other native population. The Aztec were and they oppressed other conquered natives. history.com/topics/ancient-americas/aztecs
So, if Spain is to compensate for something that happened 500 years ago, shouldn't Aztec descendants be held accountable to compensate other Mesoamreican descendants whose ancestors were conquered by the Aztec? If you can even determine who is descendants of who--I mean, there has been so much inter-marrying and intermingling of all those peoples over the past 500 years, it's an absurdity to think you can even identify who comes from who: oftentimes, you'll find in a single Mexican who has a cocktail of Euro and Mesoamerican blood and DNA running through their bodies.
@Oathbreaker
I wouldn't say that lack of microscopes and lack of development in health sciences meant the Spaniards and other early American explorers did not know that disease was infecting the Indian population. We know they were well aware of the spread and ravage of diseases like smallpox and measles.
diseases were spread on purpose by the Spanish!!
The proof for the claim of the Spanish purposely spreading disease is pretty weak. I'm unaware of any well-vetted credible historical claims that the Spanish were offering infected blankets. There is some proof that the Brits tried...once. And, there is no proof it was effective. history.com/news/colonists-native-americans-smallpox-blankets
Spanish conquistadors didn`t conquer native territories to spread civilisation
That's undeniable for the vast majority. But, there were those who did want to spread civilization and Christianity. You can argue whether or not that's just or noble, but there certainly were a good number of early settler/explorers from Europe who thought it to be just and noble.
Is it a surprise that today`s ancestors of the oppressed...demand compensation??
It's not like the native peoples were not brutal in their treatment of other native population. The Aztec were and they oppressed other conquered natives. history.com/topics/ancient-americas/aztecs
So, if Spain is to compensate for something that happened 500 years ago, shouldn't Aztec descendants be held accountable to compensate other Mesoamreican descendants whose ancestors were conquered by the Aztec? If you can even determine who is descendants of who--I mean, there has been so much inter-marrying and intermingling of all those peoples over the past 500 years, it's an absurdity to think you can even identify who comes from who: oftentimes, you'll find in a single Mexican who has a cocktail of Euro and Mesoamerican blood and DNA running through their bodies.
AntV
17 Jul 2021
News / Poland to get the newest version of M1A2 Abrams tank [90]
Many may not have liked Trump's style, but he was a very effective leader. He got things going and done.
That's the whole point of NATO isn't it--to join together to fight off common enemies. Ergo, the reason the US is not only right to demand all NATO members hold up their end of the bargain, but justifiably so.
P.S. If Oathi is Grunni, could Gef be Torqi--there's some similarities?
I really think it was more that trumpish demands that people made more annoyed at the tone than the content
Many may not have liked Trump's style, but he was a very effective leader. He got things going and done.
Nah....we still pay 1%something (about 313 million).....for that we want some service
That's the whole point of NATO isn't it--to join together to fight off common enemies. Ergo, the reason the US is not only right to demand all NATO members hold up their end of the bargain, but justifiably so.
P.S. If Oathi is Grunni, could Gef be Torqi--there's some similarities?
AntV
17 Jul 2021
News / Poland to get the newest version of M1A2 Abrams tank [90]
@BB
No, he didn't get the 2%, but real headway was being made. That stuff doesn't happen over night--takes some time. He did a lot of positive stuff in 4 years time--all the while being attacked domestically by the media and tech, unlike anything seen in our history. I miss the Great Orange Combover!
From what I've seen and read/heard, you're 100% correct, the Biden Syndicate is undoing as much of Trump's agenda as possible. It's scary just how nihilistically neo-marxist this group is.
@BB
No, he didn't get the 2%, but real headway was being made. That stuff doesn't happen over night--takes some time. He did a lot of positive stuff in 4 years time--all the while being attacked domestically by the media and tech, unlike anything seen in our history. I miss the Great Orange Combover!
From what I've seen and read/heard, you're 100% correct, the Biden Syndicate is undoing as much of Trump's agenda as possible. It's scary just how nihilistically neo-marxist this group is.
AntV
17 Jul 2021
News / Poland to get the newest version of M1A2 Abrams tank [90]
I don't think you quite get it, Novichok, it doesn't matter what Biden says. I matters what his syndicate of behind the scenes handlers do. Give it some time, Biden will contradict his statement soon enough.
I don't think you quite get it, Novichok, it doesn't matter what Biden says. I matters what his syndicate of behind the scenes handlers do. Give it some time, Biden will contradict his statement soon enough.
AntV
20 Jul 2021
Polonia / Which country is better SPAIN or POLAND [100]
Yes, I agree. I also think it's highly unjust to demand compensation from the Spanish, as I find it unjust for Jews to demand compensation from Poland, Poland to demand compensation from Germany, Libyan or Nubians to demand compensation from Egypt, etc., etc., etc..
This modern-day call for reparations is nothing short of extortion. The oppressors and oppressed of the past are gone. Assigning the sins of the father to the current generation is not only unjust, for the current generation did not commit the oppression, but it's also nearly impossible to distinguish who are the descendants of whom. Generations of mobility, intermingling, and intermarriage have made it moot.
Additionally, the reality is that the current generation are participating members of the culture they live in. A Mexican who is a descendant of an Aztec knows nothing of Aztecan culture and would be lost in it--he is Mexican, he knows Mexican culture because he has lived his life in it. Granted, some may have some kind of romantic idea of living an Aztecan life, but it's merely romantic--if they were ignorant of any Aztecan origin they wouldn't know the difference. It's like if I was to say I'm culturally German (from what I know about my family I'm 75% German ethnicity), although lived my whole life in America--it'd be purely romantic, I'm culturally 100% American.
To speak specifically about the Spanish and Mesoamericans, the Spanish monarchy of today is not the same as it was in the 16th and 17th centuries. It doesn't hold the power today as it did then. It wouldn't be the Spanish crown paying reparations, it would be the Spanish taxpayers. If you consider that just, please explain.
The gold and riches extracted from the Americas by the Spanish aren't hidden away in some account that has been accruing interest for centuries, either. The 10% the conquistadors were obligated to gift the crown was mostly disposed of quickly to pay off debts and fund their wars in Europe.
And, to end this diatribe (as grand and supremely poignant as it is), reparations/compensation/whatereveryawannacallit will not solve any problems or create harmony. It will further divide people and create enmity and discord. It will not bring about justice, accord, and unity.
Do you understand now that demanding compensation from Aztec descendants would be highly unjust?
Yes, I agree. I also think it's highly unjust to demand compensation from the Spanish, as I find it unjust for Jews to demand compensation from Poland, Poland to demand compensation from Germany, Libyan or Nubians to demand compensation from Egypt, etc., etc., etc..
This modern-day call for reparations is nothing short of extortion. The oppressors and oppressed of the past are gone. Assigning the sins of the father to the current generation is not only unjust, for the current generation did not commit the oppression, but it's also nearly impossible to distinguish who are the descendants of whom. Generations of mobility, intermingling, and intermarriage have made it moot.
Additionally, the reality is that the current generation are participating members of the culture they live in. A Mexican who is a descendant of an Aztec knows nothing of Aztecan culture and would be lost in it--he is Mexican, he knows Mexican culture because he has lived his life in it. Granted, some may have some kind of romantic idea of living an Aztecan life, but it's merely romantic--if they were ignorant of any Aztecan origin they wouldn't know the difference. It's like if I was to say I'm culturally German (from what I know about my family I'm 75% German ethnicity), although lived my whole life in America--it'd be purely romantic, I'm culturally 100% American.
To speak specifically about the Spanish and Mesoamericans, the Spanish monarchy of today is not the same as it was in the 16th and 17th centuries. It doesn't hold the power today as it did then. It wouldn't be the Spanish crown paying reparations, it would be the Spanish taxpayers. If you consider that just, please explain.
The gold and riches extracted from the Americas by the Spanish aren't hidden away in some account that has been accruing interest for centuries, either. The 10% the conquistadors were obligated to gift the crown was mostly disposed of quickly to pay off debts and fund their wars in Europe.
And, to end this diatribe (as grand and supremely poignant as it is), reparations/compensation/whatereveryawannacallit will not solve any problems or create harmony. It will further divide people and create enmity and discord. It will not bring about justice, accord, and unity.
AntV
21 Jul 2021
Polonia / Which country is better SPAIN or POLAND [100]
I'm not comparing Spain with Nazi Germany or one type of oppression with another (perceived or real). My point is that current generations have no claim to redress for the oppression of their ancestors that occurred generations ago, whether that be the historical oppression based on race, religion, creed, ideology, or what have you. The call for reparations neither compensates those who have been wronged or solves an historical injustice. It only causes further injustice (those who had no hand in oppressing paying those who were never oppressed), discord, and division.
I'm not comparing Spain with Nazi Germany or one type of oppression with another (perceived or real). My point is that current generations have no claim to redress for the oppression of their ancestors that occurred generations ago, whether that be the historical oppression based on race, religion, creed, ideology, or what have you. The call for reparations neither compensates those who have been wronged or solves an historical injustice. It only causes further injustice (those who had no hand in oppressing paying those who were never oppressed), discord, and division.
AntV
21 Jul 2021
Polonia / Which country is better SPAIN or POLAND [100]
And, that is one of my my points: the racial mixing that has gone on for generations makes impossible to distinguish between, say, an Aztec from a Castilian. In Mexico, more times than not, you'll find a single person incorporating both origins. I know several Mexican families that half the children look pure Castilian and the other half look pure Indian...and they come from the same mother and father.
But, it has nothing to do with being an American. It's based on justice, logic, and common sense.
main difference was surely racial, mixing... not only allowed but...encouraged to entrench the spanish culture/religion/language there
And, that is one of my my points: the racial mixing that has gone on for generations makes impossible to distinguish between, say, an Aztec from a Castilian. In Mexico, more times than not, you'll find a single person incorporating both origins. I know several Mexican families that half the children look pure Castilian and the other half look pure Indian...and they come from the same mother and father.
Now I know for sure you are an American.
But, it has nothing to do with being an American. It's based on justice, logic, and common sense.
AntV
21 Jul 2021
Polonia / Which country is better SPAIN or POLAND [100]
I know, it's non-sense. It was completely just to demand Germany make reparations immediately following the war (whether that be defined restitution to be paid over a set amount of time or conceding land, etc), but today it's unjust and must stop, IMO.
they just won't stop knocking and demanding!
I know, it's non-sense. It was completely just to demand Germany make reparations immediately following the war (whether that be defined restitution to be paid over a set amount of time or conceding land, etc), but today it's unjust and must stop, IMO.