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20 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [156]
Hang on a minute. Let's get some facts straight, and, as Putin said, "observe the Polish character":
In 1938 Poland divided Czecoslovakia with Germany and Hungary. The invaded area was Teschen, with a population of 230,000 - who did not want to be 'liberated' by the Poles, understandably.
See blogcritics.org/books/article/poland-joined-hitler-in-dismembe ring-czechoslovakia/
To add insult to injury they did it again, with Polish tanks crushing the Prague Uprising in 1968. Czechs don't have much to say to Poles, understandably.
In 1968 all Polish workers were asked to publicly denounce 'Zionism' during the Polish Political Crisis. Almost all the Jews in Poland were expelled. Diplomatic relations with Israel were broken. Israelis don't have a lot of time for Poles.
This followed the post-war pogroms in which Jews attempting to return to their homes were murdered in the streets by Poles:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-war_pogroms_in_Poland and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak%C3%B3w_pogrom
The pretext for the massacres was that Jews were supposedly kidnapping and eating ethnically pure Polish children. Yeah, sure...
Poles today have claimed that "the Holocaust was just retribution for the Jewish killing of Jesus" (9th June 2011)
guardian.co.uk/film/2011/jun/09/claude-lanzmann-shoah-holocaust-documentary/print
Use of the German civilian population remaining within the new Polish borders in 1945 as slave labour:
"In territories that belonged to Poland before the war, Germans were treated even more harshly than in the former German territories.[56] Deprived of any citizen rights, many were used as forced labor prior to their expulsion, sometimes for years, in labor battalions or in labour camps[57][58] such as Glaz, Milecin, Gronowo, Sikawa, Central Labour Camp Jaworzno, Central Labour Camp Potulice, £ambinowice (run by Czesław Gęborski), Zgoda labour camp and others. The death toll was between twenty and fifty percent,[59] and as the guards were not paid regular salary they forcefully extracted their wage from the inmates."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Germans_from_Poland
As you probably know, Germans don't get on too well with Poles.
Despite this..let's take a look at the statistics regarding military service in the Wehrmacht during WWII.
400,000 Poles served in the Nazi Wehrmacht, all involuntarily, so they say. The strength of the British Free Corps, in comparison, was never greater than 27.
"More than 400,000 citizens of the Polish Second Republic served in the Wehrmacht,[1] and some in the Kriegsmarine and Waffen SS."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_from_Poland_during_and_after_World_War_II
A Polish Wehrmacht was planned with the intention to create "Waffen SS Polen". It was started late, in 1944:
'The Polnische Wehrmacht originated in operations "Weiser Adler" and "Berta", supported by Hans Frank, confirmed October 23, 1944 by OKH, and next day by Adolf Hitler. Around 700 soldiers were recruited, carrying German uniforms with tabs reading "In service of German Wehrmacht" ("Im Dienst der Deutschen Wehrmacht") and the tabs in form of hussar wing or Polish white-red flag. Soldier's pay: private 90 zlotys, NCOs 150-210 zlotys. Polnische Wehrmaht was formed in reality in 1944 and the idea was to eventually transform it to in "Waffen SS Polen".'
Previously someone wrote that no Poles were SS members - so Klaus Dylewski for example?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Dylewski
"SS-Obergruppenführer Felix Steiner wrote in his book Die Freiwilligen der Waffen-SS. Idee und Opfergang that he based his organization on the Legionnaires of Józef Piłsudski. According to him, the young Polish patriots and their leader were the ideal form of "kameradenschaft" - a specific union between soldiers and their officers, based on mutual understanding."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_the_Wehrmacht
Hang on a minute. Let's get some facts straight, and, as Putin said, "observe the Polish character":
In 1938 Poland divided Czecoslovakia with Germany and Hungary. The invaded area was Teschen, with a population of 230,000 - who did not want to be 'liberated' by the Poles, understandably.
See blogcritics.org/books/article/poland-joined-hitler-in-dismembe ring-czechoslovakia/
To add insult to injury they did it again, with Polish tanks crushing the Prague Uprising in 1968. Czechs don't have much to say to Poles, understandably.
In 1968 all Polish workers were asked to publicly denounce 'Zionism' during the Polish Political Crisis. Almost all the Jews in Poland were expelled. Diplomatic relations with Israel were broken. Israelis don't have a lot of time for Poles.
This followed the post-war pogroms in which Jews attempting to return to their homes were murdered in the streets by Poles:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-war_pogroms_in_Poland and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak%C3%B3w_pogrom
The pretext for the massacres was that Jews were supposedly kidnapping and eating ethnically pure Polish children. Yeah, sure...
Poles today have claimed that "the Holocaust was just retribution for the Jewish killing of Jesus" (9th June 2011)
guardian.co.uk/film/2011/jun/09/claude-lanzmann-shoah-holocaust-documentary/print
Use of the German civilian population remaining within the new Polish borders in 1945 as slave labour:
"In territories that belonged to Poland before the war, Germans were treated even more harshly than in the former German territories.[56] Deprived of any citizen rights, many were used as forced labor prior to their expulsion, sometimes for years, in labor battalions or in labour camps[57][58] such as Glaz, Milecin, Gronowo, Sikawa, Central Labour Camp Jaworzno, Central Labour Camp Potulice, £ambinowice (run by Czesław Gęborski), Zgoda labour camp and others. The death toll was between twenty and fifty percent,[59] and as the guards were not paid regular salary they forcefully extracted their wage from the inmates."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Germans_from_Poland
As you probably know, Germans don't get on too well with Poles.
Despite this..let's take a look at the statistics regarding military service in the Wehrmacht during WWII.
400,000 Poles served in the Nazi Wehrmacht, all involuntarily, so they say. The strength of the British Free Corps, in comparison, was never greater than 27.
"More than 400,000 citizens of the Polish Second Republic served in the Wehrmacht,[1] and some in the Kriegsmarine and Waffen SS."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_from_Poland_during_and_after_World_War_II
A Polish Wehrmacht was planned with the intention to create "Waffen SS Polen". It was started late, in 1944:
'The Polnische Wehrmacht originated in operations "Weiser Adler" and "Berta", supported by Hans Frank, confirmed October 23, 1944 by OKH, and next day by Adolf Hitler. Around 700 soldiers were recruited, carrying German uniforms with tabs reading "In service of German Wehrmacht" ("Im Dienst der Deutschen Wehrmacht") and the tabs in form of hussar wing or Polish white-red flag. Soldier's pay: private 90 zlotys, NCOs 150-210 zlotys. Polnische Wehrmaht was formed in reality in 1944 and the idea was to eventually transform it to in "Waffen SS Polen".'
Previously someone wrote that no Poles were SS members - so Klaus Dylewski for example?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Dylewski
"SS-Obergruppenführer Felix Steiner wrote in his book Die Freiwilligen der Waffen-SS. Idee und Opfergang that he based his organization on the Legionnaires of Józef Piłsudski. According to him, the young Polish patriots and their leader were the ideal form of "kameradenschaft" - a specific union between soldiers and their officers, based on mutual understanding."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_the_Wehrmacht