USA, Canada / EMPIRE STATE BUILDING IN NYC DISRESPECTS POLISH AMERICANS! [88]

I'm surprised by selfhating nature of PolAms here...

"We don't deserve these lights, we have Pulaski's bridge after all..."

USA, Canada / EMPIRE STATE BUILDING IN NYC DISRESPECTS POLISH AMERICANS! [88]

It's clearly anti polish sentiment but it's understandable if the owner is a Jew (whose parents probably migrated from Poland)

Pol Ams should make more fuss about it

btw. Someone should add it to the wikipedia article "anti-polish sentiment"

Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]

Scandinavians, Finns, Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians, Dutch

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

Why French?

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

Yeah but Poles in UK are just there for one simple reason - money. There aren't there to integrate with natives and spend the rest of their lives in UK

PolAms on the other hand are normal American citizens and they are (or were) somehow a victim of cruel jokes. But Poles aren't to blame - rather Jews and Germans

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

2/10.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]


Regular houses, old buildings in the centre, post 89' projects by private developers , twin houses etc.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]


If commieblocks were so ****** polish middle class wouldn't be massively moving to them. Google more

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

Seriously when you live in let's say Michigan where there are many PolAms it has to be depressing. The only city in hundred of miles is Detroit and it's totally ridden by crime so what's left? Living in the middle of nowhere with other victims of white flight? It sounds pretty depressing for me

In Poland you have at least 5 "non-boring" cities located not so far from one another so if you live even in shithole like Białystok you still aren't alienated from the external world like in US


You just happened to have noisy neighbours. If it happend so often Poles from city centre/suburbs wouldn't move to blocks

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]


I don't think this happens often. Maybe that's the case in some gypsy projects in Slovakia

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

I mean in Poland you live in disgusting yellow tower blocks but you aren't at least alienated from the rest of humanity like in the american suburb. Think what your child must feel when it doesn't have company to play with. Then when it reaches adulthood it is a social reject. In Poland in ugly (at least from outside) commieblock housing projects you have people around you to befriend with and spend time as opposed to US

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]


Well maybe NYC, Chicago, SF and Boston aren't boring but the rest of US surely is. I can't imagine living in the middle of nowhere 40km from the city centre. Yes you have big houses but what's the advantage of them if there are no activities to do around you

Life / The Polish national 'brand' [21]

Lack of funding? I don't think so. We're the biggest beneficiary from EU. Problem is with beaurocratic processes like tenders, appeals and other things which waste time

Also the company responsible for organizing Euro2012 wastes money on outsourcing services which could be done by the workers of this company

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

Living in Poland is harder than in US, Canada or Australia, no doubt. But at least Poland isn't as boring as US for example. Additionally you live among your kind not blacks or mexicans

Life / The Polish national 'brand' [21]

Polonius3 - I agree with your post but I''d add to this history

Bratwurst Boy - Unfortunately our promotion at Euro 2012 will be spoiled by Ukraine. But I hope European fans aren't that ignorant that they don't see the difference between Poland and Ukraine

Life / The Polish national 'brand' [21]

It must be added that PR in Poland is rather decentralized. For example city of Poznań has their own trademark used everywhere (attached pic) and promotes itself on its own. Look here:

watch?v=a3FGKqvsW4s << youtube reference because I can't post links yet because of anti spamming system

The same goes for every other major city like Wrocław, Kraków, Warszawa, Gdańsk itd.

Even on the ITB in Berlin Poland has always multiple stalls presenting every region/city autonomously


PR is what brings tourists and investors to Poland which means a lot of money. Money usually makes people happy

Life / The Polish national 'brand' [21]


Yes. Eastern Europe has a bad rep in the world. If we want to improve our PR we have to show what we are in reality not by some silly cold war definition

Besides Eastern Europe = Eastern Orthodox christianity

It's just silly to call Slovenia or Czech Republic Eastern Europe if these countries were highly influenced by Germany and Austria

Life / The Polish national 'brand' [21]

First of all:
-we should fight associating us with EASTERN EUROPE. Poland is a CENTRAL EUROPEAN state which belongs to the WESTERN WORLD (EU, NATO, OECD, Catholicism, Indo-European roots). This could stop common certainty that Poland = Soviet State

-we should abandon pan-slavism because it's harmful for Poland to be associated with Russia, Ukraine or Bulgaria. Poland is just Poland, not a part of mysterious "Slavia" or other ****. Politicians should stop using the term "slav"

This 2 things are a good start for us

As for PR slogans:

Pope, Solidarność, Vodka, Beer, Pierogi, Sausage, Mead, Chopin, Uprisings, Few important historic events - stopping Mongols, Turks and Bolsheviks, good parts of PRL (places like Nowa Huta are a magnet for tourists), Our regional folk, Moustache, Tatry, Masuria, Bisons, Jewish/Christian orthodox heritage, Magnateria mansions

How should Polish nation be presented?

As conservative patriotic educated people. We have to avoid Western Europe mistakes with being associated with liberalism and socialist ideology