Love / Why do Polish women prefer foreigners for boyfriends and husbands? [418]

mvefa - As I have explained, I'm not talking about all Polish women, only about a certain percentage.

This percentage is high enough that You'll see Polish ladies doing stuff that I wrote about in U.K., U.S. or while they are on vacation in Greece or Italy.

Also, I only see this as logical. Here You have a country ( Poland ) where whole generations of people grew up with little to no real money, were unable to travel abroad ( communism ) and often came to view foreigners as superiors because said foreigners were able to live lives Polish people could not. I'm sorry, it is a sad reality that in, let's say, 1985, if You worked for 2 months in United States on a minimum wage You were able to buy a flat in a Polish city with Your savings.

This country also tolerates prostitution up to a point where it is legal and used to mass- export prostitutes to other places in the 70's and 80's ( Germany, U.K. ).

The richest woman in this country became such by way of marrying well and divorcing smartly.

In addition, it is common in this country to raise women as "princesses" and if You call a Polish girl a "princess" she'll most likely not even understand the negative connotations associated with this. At the same time males in Poland are raised as workhorses, taught not to complain from an early age and to respect their women.

I'm sorry, but it is only logical that the female population of such a country will contain a higher than usual number of:

a) Pro's,

b) Sluts who pull slutty tricks because their men rarely even have the balls to do anything about it,

c) Women who want to marry a rich foreigner in order to get ahead,

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Polish women in general tend to do that. Pre-nups aren't a really big thing in Poland.

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skysoulmate

1. I am both a Pole and a Jew, according to my passports. So when I'm speaking of Poles I speak of my people.

2. Faith isn't something I'm particularly big on. Neither is Jahwe.

3. In real life I'm rather known for telling it like it is.

And You know what?

Should London suddenly suffer an influx of Israeli women with a significant number of whom being ready and willing to **** for free rent I'll say: "There is a visible amount of Israeli sluts in London", amongst other things.

Part of the "Polish issue" in my humble opinion is that Poles have a problem with accepting negative opinions coming from other people. Never mind that I'm not talking about all Polish women but about a certain ( visible if You go abroad and visit Polish immigrant communities ) percentile - they all get offended as if I slagged their Mums.

Apart from that You will not usually hear full blooded Polish people talking about this issue. Polish women, as You might have noticed from threads here, don't really consider prostitution and related actions either bad or anything disgusting. And most Polish men are too ************ to talk about it unless alcohol is involved.

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- oh, fairly common.

It's rather typical of Polish women.

Should You for example ever point out to a Polish girl that the number of Polish women spreading their legs in exchange for free rent in Britain is higher than that of other nations You'll immediately hear stories of disgusting, drunk English females doing god knows what in Cyprus or tales of nasty Ukrainian prostitutes and strippers.

A defensive "mechanism" highly characteristic of Poles in general, sort of like "It's ok to steal cars because my neighbor does it".


Never dated an Agnieszka. I don't know if You missed it, but I actually have a preference for Jewish women.


In my humble opinion the Poles should be thankful to You, British lads. Women that drop everything they are doing and completely change their lives around because a British guy whistled at them while on a drinking spree in Poland aren't usually worth much in terms of morals to begin with.

Poles should be very thankful that You will from time to time choose to import their sluts to Britain. After all, most of such scenarios end up with the slut either staying in Britain or being sent back home after being set straight by a no-nonsense Brit. Polish guys often seem to lack either the will or the ability to set their sluts straight.


- seriously, women from Eastern Europe are the only women in the world that need to involve Gulags, Stalin and whatnot in order to justify why it's ok for some of them to ***** around :-)


- well, I have to say I usually get some **** for telling things like they are. But to tell the truth I get waaay less **** from Jews when I say some of our compatriots are a bit too money-grabbing then I get from Poles when I write other things. I guess Jews don't generally take such criticism too personally.


Good for You. Great many women from Africa are strong, independent and resourceful.

Love / Why do Polish women prefer foreigners for boyfriends and husbands? [418]

King Polkamon

Obviously the English take part in the shagging.

Since with your average Polish slut she's usually got ***** fever before you're done with the drinks it would be surprising if the Brits wouldn't take advantage.

I mean, think about. You've got Kate and Agnieszka. Kate's got demands and wants to be an equal partner while Agnieszka's got cream in her pants ever since she heard You inherited a one-bedroom in South Kensington. In the long run - it's Kate, of course, You won't be embarrassed to introduce HER to the parents. But in the short run it's Agnieszka since she's already pretty much ready to go...

I don't really shag Polish women anymore. Too much hassle, too much drama, way too many mind games.

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Not really IMO.

They will in general spread quicker, though.

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Justysia - You make a couple of solid points, but I think You fail to notice a few things at the same time.

My views aren't exactly what I'd call revolutionary. At one point in Britain the assumption that Polish women made excellent prostitutes was so widespread that the guy who used to run the morning BBC program actually said so live, in front of the camera. I'm talking BBC here, not some ****** tabloid.

But to be concise - if one person tells you you're wearing a crappy suit - tell them to go to hell. If at least two random people tell you that - go change your tailor.

Apply it to what I wrote previously as you wish.


If the guy is jumping up and down with joy just because she was asian then yes, he has some insecurities probably arising from being raised in a bland communist/transformation environment.

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Same **** here. Actually, Russian girls are kind of similiar in this.

"Why don't you have a Russian girlfriend if you are doing business in Russia? Russian women not good enough for you?"

It's actually kind of crazy.

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1. I've said it here and I'll repeat. Statistically speaking, most Polish women marry Polish men. Pretty sure that goes for dating as well.

2. Poland is blessed/cursed with a percentile of sluts in the general population that is greater than in, let's say, Germany or U.K. Pretty much typical for all of Eastern Europe, really.

Now some of these sluts are golddiggers and due to communist mentality they believe that every foreigner = gravy train.

Hence they'll usually prefer foreigners in relationships. And they'll be mighty surprised if a foreigner is not rich.

Another part of said sluts has an inferiority complex stemming from being raised in the bland environment of communism/early economic transformation years. They're the ones who'll call their friends and giggle "I did a black guy today!" down the phone.

But in general see p 1.

Love / Polish Girl & Me...Is She Interested? [57]

Phurion:


I think that You, sir, have made the right choice and You don'r really need me to tell You that.

Of course prepare yourself for a LOT ( and I do mean a metric **** ton - she is Polish ) of crying, emotional blackmail and/or some crazy mindgames which she might be inclined to play when she notices you've made up your mind.


- don't worry, it's pretty much typical. Every time You decide that a woman from Eastern Europe is/might be a prostitute based on strong evidence she will still call You biased, "racist" ( know this one doesn't make any sense ) and etc. Make nothing of it.


ROTFL... I'm literally on the floor laughing right now... Dude, Lodz's...Lodz's like THE capital of Polish sluts. Former blue-collar city with serious unemployment issues, extremely materialistic people that would kill their own grandma for a few cents, rampant corruption + prostitution and most easy chicks are Volkswagen easy. No need to buy a Mercedes to go fishing if You catch my drift.

If she's from Lodz than run like hell.

Ok, generalisations aside it's extremely easy to find a materialistic, self-obsessed quasi princess Polish slut in Lodz of all places.

dtaylor5632

I see You've ran into one of Lodz's finest :-) My condolences, with them the shag's usually not worth the accompanying drama.

I know that's another generalisation but if she says she's from Lodz that usually translates into "five-dollar ho" in English.

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Phurion:

1) You are being logical about this. And unfortunately the logical answer in this case seems to be: "Yes, your Polish sweety is or has until recently been in the sex biz to an unknown capacity".

2)


- don't let anyone here bully You into thinking that by writing about very legitimate concerns you are somehow disrespecting anyone.

3)


Sounds just about typical. She didn't tell You about her hooker past and she sees You as a way out. As You noticed, she already expects You to provide the same amount of living standard ( "hundreds of dollars" ) that she achieved through earning easy money in the sex biz. The notion to get married quick also fits in quite well with all this.

If I were You I'd get out of Dodge. This has no potential of working long-term, especially if she treats You like a sucker and won't admit to what she's done in the past.

4)


- I'm sure the local Polish women on this forum will burn You on a cross after this statement.

zetigrek:


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Had the thread starter made up his mind, he wouldn't have started the thread.

I say that at the time he started it both options ( kicking her to the curb and staying with her ) were open, with the thread starter leaning towards the former.

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- girl, all the writings on the wall point toward her being a prostitute, and the man is just able to use logic, that's all.

Now I know that in Poland prostitution is legal and many a "Polish princess" can give a whole list of excuses why she's spreading her legs for hard currency as well as swear on the Bible that it is just a temporary thing that she'll give up "when she finds the right man".

But in many other countries the woman isn't exactly considered the best candidate for a wife if she's been selling ass regardless of excuse. Most of these places, surprise, surprise, consider prostitution itself a crime.

Love / Polish Girl & Me...Is She Interested? [57]

Ok, I've read through the whole thing.

1) She's really interested in one part of You, with that part being your wallet.

2) Polish women, in general, need to be kept on a short leash. If You start to believe in her BS stories you'll soon learn that it is customary in Poland for the guy to buy a girl a bag of uncut, apple-sized diamonds every other weekend.

Well, it is not. The stuff she told you about how much You're supposed to spend on her lazy ass isn't true either. Well, it could be true in case of peasants from near Kielce, Lomza or Rzeszow, but they don't exactly live on American prices if you catch my drift.

In other words you've been duped and you are probably still being duped as I write.

3) Now for the funny part.

She's feeding you a story about her finances... The story doesn't add up... And it does seem like she has plenty of cash... She also works a job that allows her to meet loads of people...

My logical conclusion is simple - she's a part-time or full-time prozzer.

With you she might be looking for a way out ( read: sucker dumb enough to pay her way and marry her ) or that's just the way she meets full-time clients. Notice that you are already being worked on for gifts, restaurants, etc., "hundred dollars at a time" you say. I think she'll soon ask you for a "gift of cash" :-)

Anyways, if You are a decent bloke looking for a good woman You probably should run away from that one like her ***** was on fire.

Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

milky -

1 ) I'm sure you can find real bargains in the Republic of Zimbabwe then.

Who knows... 500 years down the road they may actually discover the wheel, which should make real estate prices triple over there.

Sarcasm aside, Poland is a state whose feet are firmly placed on the road which leads from "developing market" to "developed country". In other words, it should look something close to Germany or Holland in 50 years.

Right now we are at the point where everybody noticed it. Appropriate analysts have given the green light and big banking players have moved in. They are willing to lend money to Poles, which in turn should keep the real estate at about where they're at now in the short term ( give and take 20% ). Counting on the "bubble bursting" or however you want to view it is playing the long odds.

Time to make big bucks was 5-8 years ago, because real estate was relatively underpriced in Poland back then and the banks were just moving in.

2 ) Recession - as I pointed out, other countries in Eastern Europe ( pretty much ALL the other countries ) were struck by recession to a degree far greater than Poland ( which actually did not really go through a period of recession as of today ). If You are looking for good deals resulting from the Recession You'll be better off looking there then.

3 ) I have quite a few friends in Blightey or U.S. who became relatively rich through the simple act of buying or inheriting a house/flat and not selling it for 20 years. These friends of mine - some of them aren't really Einsteins to begin with.

With that said I don't know why You keep trying to say Polish people won't have/should not have the same opportunity.

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I don't get why I'm lucky. Regardless of how great a tactician you think Arkan was ( I think he was just a common thug ) he'd have never made it to Israel.

Other than that, the Serbs aren't excatly much of a threat. We've all seen what happened when they got out of line in Kosovo.

Love / Why do Polish women prefer foreigners for boyfriends and husbands? [418]


Examples, please.

I registered here two days ago or so.

Edit:

I'd also like to point out that this thread is pretty much based on some assumptions made by some insecure ginger kid loser and everyone seems to follow along the trail of stupidity that OP blazed.

There are stats available for this type of thing and guess what?

Most Polish women marry Poles.

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Extremely sorry to disappoint, girl (or whomever you are), but I am as Jewish as Rabbi Shlome's tallit. That and some Polish.

What you wrote is actually part of the problem with you Serbs.

You fail to acknowledge that your antics may actually be seen as despicable, clumsily stupid and downright idiotic by people who calmly watch them from afar.

Everyone who expresses a negative opinion must be of course somehow involved ( Croat ) or brainwashed by "NATO/EU/Islamic league anti-Serbian propaganda", to quote your countrymen crow. That's the way your mind works.

But the truth of the matter is that, I know you won't like hearing this, everyone with half a brain sees that Milosevic basically fcuked your country eight ways from Sunday with his little speech in Kosovo Polje, 1987, and everything that followed.

He pulled a fast one on you all with his populism and before you knew it he got a country involved in one war after another, turned half your men into murderers and war criminals and made you outcasts of the international community. Everything because one cunning bastard figured that inside almost every Serb is a loser who wants to listen about the "great Serbia".

Ultimately America whipped you back into your place - all it took was a few bombings and the "mighty" serbian army fell apart. By that time your country was a mafia-controlled ruin, you've lost your last war and your President was apologizing for war crimes on national telly.

Right now you are begging the EU to let you in and that's where the funny part starts.

We are on a Polish forum and it is difficult not to notice that Poland has enjoyed a measure of at least financial success after 1989. There were some bumps on their road, but hey, they've been doing ok ever since they joined the EU.

And this ironically, could have been You, Serbs. Multiply the economic success of Poland times 2 or 3 and you'll get what Yugoslavia could have been, hadn't you Serbian dumbos fcuked up as badly as you did. You were the best place to live in the Eastern Bloc and in best economic shape of all the satellite states when the wall came down. And all went to **** because Serbs were stupid and listened to Milosevic, instead of peacefully dividing the country like the Czechs and the Slovaks.

But yeah, go around and say other people are biased when they preach the truth. Feed the inner nationalist idiot with more lies, that's exactly what Serbia needs right now.

Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

milky - I'm sticking with what I wrote.

1) Pre-2002 ( before the boom, or however you want to call it ) you had pretty much semi-commie prices. None of the global banking players knew which way the country would swing ( think Serbia or Ukraine ) so they were cautious while entering the market.

Once Poland's feet were firmly planted upon the road to EU ( a good indication it will go from "emerging" to "developed" markets in, let's say, 50 years ) banks moved in to make a profit and mortgage backed credit became widely available.

2) So in reality now the average price of a square meter of residential in Poland is effectively determined by how much the bank will lend an average couple of "buraks".

This factor was nearly non-existant during the pre-2002/semi-commie prices period.

Baring Russian invasion or an outbreak of bubonic plague the banks will not pull out of Poland, neither will they completely stop lending money.

Hence the prices are not going down to pre-2002 period.

Heck, if You believe the prices will fall by so much "because they have to", then by all means wait even longer. In the 1980's You were able to buy a hooker in Poland for what it costed to purchase a bottle of Pepsi in Deutschland and a decent flat in Wroclaw = 2 months of vacation work in Canada.

Why not set that as a benchmark and wait until the prices drop that low? :-)

3) Comparing the Polish real estate market with the Irish real estate market makes no point, apples and oranges really. In addition, Poland went through the "crisis" relatively well, when compared to let's say Hungary, Lithuania or Latvia. If I were to hazard a guess where residential real estate prices would drop the most due to economy related reasons I'd rather point my finger in their general direction.

4) Apart from that, a couple of Polish buraks can make that 5-6k zloty net in Poland ( talking Cracow, Warsaw, Tri-City, Wroclaw or Katowice now ) between the two of them right now, throw in the swiss franc and grandpa's pension and they'll get that credit without the help of Ryanair and Irish minimum wage.

Hence this:


isn't really applicable.

One of the financial advisors I work with recently brought a plot in a good neighbourhood in one of Poland's bigger cities for about 400.000 zloty. Not a big plot, either. He intends to splash another 400.000 or so on the house. Dude never even seen Dublin, makes most his money off credit commissions.

5) All things considered, You sir sound a bit bitter. I know it would have been great if you came to Cracov in, let's say, 2000-2001, bought 3 100+ meter flats in downtown Cracow for 250.000 ( real prices from Pędzichów street from said period ) and now sold them at 900.000-1 mil a piece.

But that didn't happen and in all honesty, if you're looking for a chance like that You'll prolly be better off looking at Kiev or Belgrade.

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Skysoulmate -

Thank You for posting these pictures. Lovely ladies from IDF... Polish chicks got nothing on them.

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crow, southern

I speak a few languages and guess what?

Polish is amongst them.

Now, I know that pedo-bear got his way with both of you when you were wee, but that's no reason to be unkind to people. I'm also not responsible for all your "mommy did the postman" issues.

So shut your pie-holes and cut on the language.

Seanus


I fit into the "well educated Jew" stereotype rather well. And studying history of fcuked up countries is kinda a hobby of mine. Naturally then, Serbia is a place I looked into.

Not to make the off-topic longer than necessary, but it is really fascinating how the Serbs pissed so much away because a crazy populist got in touch with the inner nationalist-loser who is present in most Serbs and used cheap parlour tricks to lead them into an unnecessary war. Hadn't they allowed that they would have been in EU by now, with opportunities at least on par with the ones that were given to Poland.

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Crow



Ok, now seriously.

Southern is a clown.

But you, you sir sound like you need professional medical help with all these conspiracy theories moving about your head. Please, for the sake of everyone, take off your tinfoil hat and seek that help.

Seanus -


Jewish with Polish blood. Born and raised in Poland, educated in the States, been here and there.

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Seanus - I think what he's trying to imply is something akin to a stupid slavic supremacy ideology. One of the lynchpins of it is the belief that slavs are supposed to have this special empathy or ability to feel and express emotions.

Russians seem to suffer from it often as well.

Utter BS if you ask me.

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I'm not ethnically a full Slav. But personal opinion aside, I know many Slavs who think Serbs are pieces of **** in general.

Again it has something to do with murdering civilians during the Balkan Wars.

Edit: Oh, yes. This is a Polish forum. Most Polish people I know ( slavs ) prefer Croatia to Serbia and Croatians to Serbs. Why? See above.

Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

Wawel100 - What You've got in Poland at the moment is a gigantic pool of people without credit obligations, if viewed through the lens of Western European standards. So were using ( and most likely will return to using ) all the tricks in the book to get them on the hook. And it is working because the general Polish population's experience with all this is usually zero, nil, zip.

Here's how it goes:

Take it in Swiss franc. Or Euro. It will lower the monthly payment.

30 years. 40 years. 50 years. I'm wondering when they'll start advertising 60 years.

Take it with your mom. Your dad. Your grandma if she's still kicking. Anything to improve that credit score.

With most of the above applied 500.000 is doable if two people are in for it.

Never mind that it doesn't make any sense for them to do so and they'll probably be paying for that flat longer than they'll be married.

They're "buraks", remember?

They don't know better.

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Srebrenica happens to be true, boy. That was a proud moment for the serbian nation, right?

8000 murdered civilians.

That was dominant, right?

Your own president fell to his knees and apologised for it. Catkic, remember him?

Extremely dominant.

And speaking of EU, aren't you currently sucking EU's collective wiener and trying to apply? :-)

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Crow


If you're not taking pills, you probably should start. If you are then stop taking them and see a professional. Either way, seek help.


See above.

Boy, the only thing you Serbs were dominant about was your chetniks chopping up Croatian children into pieces. But America quickly ************ you and taught you that was a no-go, right? :-)

Then you got to "dominate" the court in Hague for a while, that didn't work out so well for you too, right?

So stop spreading the ********.

"polishwoman"


Then move with all haste and board that Ryanair to Dublin, baby.

There's plenty of hobos by the Liffey waiting to charm your mouth with their irish pencils.

Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

Sure it is a big fall. I guess the best way to summarize what I was trying to convey is:

Prices returning to, let's say, pre-2002 levels = not gonna happen unless half the banks that are on the market now close down and move out of Poland or all dramatically change their approach to mortgage backed credits.

In other words, don't count on the prices going down that far.

Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

Hate to rain on your parade, boys and girls, but I work in this biz and I'm not betting on the median square meter price of residential in Poland falling by much. 10%? Sure. 20% Possible. "Illusionary bubble bursting" and prices falling waaay down - not gonna happen.

Reasons:

1 ) This country has been fcuked by commies really bad. People used to wait to get a flat for years. As a result, there is still a shortage of residential. Shortage of residential = many desperate young couples tired of living with their mum and dad.

2 ) Comparing earnings to flat/house prices in Poland makes no sense. We are talking about a country where bank mortgages weren't really used up until 2002 or so and mortgage-backed credit was unavailable for a long time. So the price basically depended on what the average Pole managed to squirrel away or earn abroad.

Right now mortgage-backed credit is readily available for your average Pole that is willing to chain himself up to a bank.

3) With the above in mind, please notice a correlation between the sudden availability of mortgage backed credit and the skyrocketing of prices.

Banks decided that your average Polish "burak" is now safe enough a client to lend him helluva dough and have him pay it back thrice over in 40 years. Crazy, i know.

And guess what?

Your average Polish "burak" is gifted with a personality ( some aspects of which have already been discussed ) that won't make him blink twice before chaining himself and the missus to a bank for 40 years.

These are the people you are competing on the market against. They are the reason why an agent for a posh building won't even look at your offers that are "significantly lower" then his asking price. He knows that somewhere down the line a desperate enough "burak" is going to come along.

To summarize:

If You want to buy in Paris - go ahead and buy in Paris. If You want to buy cheap ( prior to 2002 cheap ) - You missed out on the window of opportunity in Poland. So You can either wait until the banks stop lendind the "buraks" money or go buy in Ukraine.

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southern.

I've read some of your stuff before registering here.

You are either:

a) 15 years old,

b) a forum clown,

c) a forum troll,

Or perhaps all of the above.

Your delusions about "balkan power" are typical for a certain breed of greeks, albanians or bulgarians ( little difference, if you ask me ), along with your poor grasp of English language and know-it-all attitude. It is very hard not to imagine a swarthy, smelly gentleman working as a part time street sweeper in Athens when reading your contributions here.

In reality the only "balkan power" you have is the power to play with your wiener while thinking about "Polki" who won't give you the time of day.

I understand why you are worried about "peniadze" though, with greece going to crap as I write and albania/bulgaria having been crap for a jolly long time now.

Remember, you might still have time for a reality check.