History / What do Polish people think about Belorussians? [38]


"L" says smth like: "Hello Russia, give us a bit of gas and oil for nearly free, well you know, cuz we are brothers, aren't we?"

And when Hugo Chawis arrives, he says: "Hugo! Our nations are so close, we are brothers, we have a lot of comman things (lol), you know, so would you mind to give us some oil, please"

At last when he need to show his disrespect to Russia he spent people's money to save Bakiyev. Do we need him here, in Bealarus (lol), and actually who was he unitll the revolution has came???


I think we should remove him with our own hands and then the people of belarus will choose the right way. As for me prsonaly, I don't accept any way of development except of Europe way. There will be never such a failure as it was in Ukaraine or Geargia, but we need time.

Thanks :)

We are using Partisans methods as it ws during WW2 :)
And Poland helps us a lot.

History / What do Polish people think about Belorussians? [38]



I would like to take notice, in the 2nd movie the main language is Belarussian. The Polish language is only at the beginnig when belarussian guy are trying to speak Polish. He is sitting in the car. However, he is Belarussian and he speak Polish with belarussian accent. That was made not to confuse someone, cuz there are a lot of different opinions on youtube. But, to tell you the truth his destiny isn't so inspiring nowadays.

Interestin fact is that Lukashenko doesn't know the Belarussian language. He speaks kolkhoz accent Russian. :)))
Another interesting fact can be seen when he lay down his hand on Constitution... As everyone may guess, he is swearing on Constitution that he will be reliable, true, fair president :D but as we may see next, he, nominally, alter one of the main Constitution principle, as "Election of the president" (Currently he may be the president of Belarus forever). And that give him a chance officially to stay on his post utill his death. CAN ANYONE IMAGINE THAT IN THE 21TH CENTURY??? The Constitution has been changed.

I'd like to make a statement and to say some words about the current national flag of Belarus:
It has always been "White-Red-White" flag, but not the Soviet one "Green-Red". A bit confused, but that can be understood... Lukashenko is the next generation of USSR.

I have never seen in my life the university with the Belarussian language, as the general language. They were exicting, but not at present. But, for example, in some Universities we can find some lecturers which speak and teach only in Belarussian and yes, the most of them do that by the reason of their moral standards.

At last if we won't do some changes in futer or now, this System will kill itself. No one can argue with the economic laws ;)


Not only one! Almost all people in my environment against such politics and they are bussinesmen, doctors, engineers, teachers, lawers etc, but they are not police officers or other defence and law enforcement agencies. We have tasted the life with Russia and we didn't like it much. BUT THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE ARE WELCOM HERE AS THE POLISH PEOPLE AND OTHER NATIONALITIES! (Please, take a look, the Serbian people are in love with the Russian people, although they are trying to became part of EU) My opinion: We must return to the past of Belarus. I don't know wheather we will like it or weather not, but we must try to do that. In conclusion, I would like to notice that we will make it in our own way, not like Ukraine or Georgia. And we will make it without firearms or things like that.

I have nothing to say about the 2nd film, cuz i can't play it for some reason.
P.S. By the way, now in Belarus you can't use the computer in Internet Cafe without holding your pasport :))) This fact give myself the idea why... :D

With all my respect Sasha, if it would be OK for you, you can grab information from the Internet or be my guest, I can make an excursion for you.

As I always say: Young peopple in Belarus want to became part of Europe and middle class as well that's why "L" is trying to destroy it economically (according to the views of my region of country)... The salary of excavator operator is 1000$/mounth and the salary of a nurse is 120$/mounth.


Obviously, he plays his own game. BUT, he is just another an old soviet guy with the soviet psychology and with Imperialistic ambitions

P.S. At the beginnig i thought this theme wouldn't be about politics, but I was wrong :(((

History / What do Polish people think about Belorussians? [38]

Oh, yeah you are right! But after all, as the GDL was an internatiaon country, thereby the mixture of different nationalities is irreversible, so it's hard to say whether they were "Rusini", or not, but definitely they were not "Byelorussians" after all. Another problem is the surnames which endings are "-ich", sometimes "-ski" and sometimes "-ko"

Thank you all for nice conversation

The most strange thing is that here, in Belarus, about 65% of people have the last name endings like "-ich".

History / What do Polish people think about Belorussians? [38]


The USSR guys invented the word "Byelorussians" and then Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic in the 20th century. And the word "Belarus" is the modern and the official name, but the Russian people are still using the word "Byelorussia".

During the GDL there was only one name for the people of the territories of present Lithuania, Belarus and West Ukraine - "Litwini". Also, there was an unofficial word for the people which lived on the territory of nowadays Belarus "Tutejszyja". Like for example "Bavarians"

If we are talking about the nation of modern Belarus then it is a mixture of Baltic and Slavic tribes.

History / What do Polish people think about Belorussians? [38]

Helllooo!!!
That's quite interesting :))) i'll definitely make some comments later. Unfortunately I have so much work to do :)


Nowadays thats slightly the truth, cuz a vast of belarussian engineers, doctors, lawyers, IT specialists etc. immigrate to the USA, Poland Russia, Canada, Australia etc. The main reason of this is the wages of people which are engaged in different sectors of intellectual work or it's better to state inconsistence of their wages with the wages of other groups. For Example in Belarus, the avarage salary of doctor is 200 U.S dollars in comparison with the salary of wiper which is 300 U.S dollars!!! SO WHERE IS THE LOGIC???


Thank you, we will make it, and this dream will come true very soon :)

GOD BLESS AUSTRALIA!


A friend of mine was in Poznań not for a long time ago. He is an architecture and there was a plan to construct a bulding and the main goal was to create a mixed group of Polish/Belarussian architecture and engineers which could make this project come true.

There was a condition they should do it during the period of 2 weeks. All together they made it in 5 days! The other 9 days they were drinking as so called "Wódka" :D and see the sights of Poznań. The project was great! I have fotos.


Interesting fact is that Tadeusz Kosciuszko is a national hero of Belarus as well as Adam Mickiewicz! :) And Tadeusz Kosciuszko was in a half Belarussian, or it's better to say "Litwini" (those times Litwini and Belarussians had the same name). Actually the word "Belarussians" is the imaginary word. Russian Empire fabricated it. This word have never been exicting until the 18th century.


The Belarussian language was using both the Cyrilic alphabet and the Latin alphabet, as the Serb people do nowadays ;) The official language of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania was always Belarussian. Maybe you are talking about Commonwealth and about different political documents if you are talking about that then I would say nothing, cuz actually I'm not well informed about that.


The most GDL docs were destroyed by Russian Empire, but we have some information from Belarusian People's Republic which didn't make it possible to suffer from hunger as it was in Ukraine and we won't never forget it. And we've got some ancient docs from Poland. And Also we have Russian history docs, so we can compare them and draw a conclusion. :(


Hmmm, i might be wrong, but as far as i know the word "Lachy" isn't so swear, there is a polish beer "Lech" and "Lech" is the polish name + there is a legend with 3 brothers which names are "Lech", "Rus" and Czech :D And it is a bit grate on my nerves to hear "BialoRussia"... but some of you guys are still using it :D


We had the most democratic union than other Europe had and now... How does it happend that Belarus is now the last Totalitarism country in Europe. I don't blame no one, except of us ourselves. (the people of Belarus)

Funny though! :D


Russian-Belorussian relationship is falling apart nawadays, you can grab this information from the News and Yes, Sasha Welcome to Belarus! You will see it with your own eyes, no one will call you "comrade". Please, visit Grodno and Brest at first. It sounds pretty rude, but it is the truth!


Political Games as always :D


Please, read above, thanks

YES, UNIVERSAL TRUTH!!!
And Belarussians must to do smth with it at last and we will!

Thank you all for Attention. Let the God Bless us all.

Life / Any good Polish films to watch? [110]

Podoba mi się takie filmy Krzysztofa Kieślowskiego jak:
Trzy kolory. Niebieski
Trzy kolory. Biały
Trzy kolory. Czerwony
To jest trylogia, ale one (filmy) są bardzo dramatycznymi. :(

History / What do Polish people think about Belorussians? [38]

You are seething with anger Sasha :)))

It isn't the subject of the theme just what you are trying to establish. And what you are trying to say is just don't make sense to me.


For the present I haven't wrote nothing about Russian or Belorussian achievements/inventions/goods ;)


And once again, have I ever wrote smth against the Russians? :)
Do you see the differences between "Russian Empier", "USSR" and "the Russians"?


Yes, I've written it as below.

But it must be sound a little bit strange for people who's native language is Polish. And funny, but it is not racist word as you see ;)) Anyway


Oh, thank you (Koldun is not in this section :D), polish singers/composers are good too, but actually I heard just a few of them. :(

I bet you are watching Eurovision now. :)

We really need to work hard on their singing, I mean the singing of belarussian singers :DDD

History / What do Polish people think about Belorussians? [38]


"Another sheep straying from the flock" - People are not sheeps, believe me ;)
"Losing its identity" - No, I know the history of my country, I use my native language :)
I have never said I don't like Russian people ;))) A'm I. I'm not trying to attract someone's attention. It's just interesting to me to know what do Polish people think about Belorussian people.

And responding to "Palachka". I wrote Russians, cuz actually people from Poland don't see the differences, that's it :))) And the word "Palachka" is very close to Slang. I'm trying to learn the Polish language and this word seems to me a bit strange. The Russian llanguage has the word "Polka" too ;)

Where are you from Sasha? :)


I think some closeness is existing, but I think not at all.
But Thanks for your Reply

History / What do Polish people think about Belorussians? [38]

And there is a TV channel "Belsat" :)))


Yes, it would be a nice bussines, cuz there a lot of different stuff in Poland, which is produced in Poland, that we really need to and we can offer the money from rus transit :)))

Life / Is the word "Polack"rascist? [185]

Some Russian people call Polish people of female gender as "Palachka" or "Palaczka" (in Polish) which makes me laugh out loud :))), cuz actually it means "The woman who smokes".

:))) But most of them don't know about that even.

History / What do Polish people think about Belorussians? [38]

I have looked through the forum and to tell the truth, it seems to be very interesting :)
I'm really happy for Polish people, they made the right choice in 90th :))) But, it wouldn't happend in other way.


At some point I will definitely agree with you. And from what I've heard from my friends in Poland, Polish people actually don't care about Ukrainians or Slovaks either, but my folks don't like Russians and Germans much. Well, it is quiet understandable why, according to the history of Poland.


The funniest thing is that Belorussians which live in Poland know the belorussian language and those who live in Belarus don't. But language is part of mentality, culture etc.

"To jest naprawdę szkoda". :(