Dougpol2
20 May 2010
Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]
Just rowing with the wife - and a bottle of this or ten looks just the job Grrr
Just rowing with the wife - and a bottle of this or ten looks just the job Grrr
Dougpol2
20 May 2010
Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]
I thought Fortuna was low sugar fruit juice?
Fortuna Czarne
I thought Fortuna was low sugar fruit juice?
Dougpol2
20 May 2010
Travel / Indian or Mexican food in Warsaw. [60]
Doubled.
The teaching handbook says NOT to criticise your new country of abode - but as we are seasoned taxpayers methinks we should sneer wherever we are faced with this appalling affront.
Unless it's tastefully done music and to background hum levels, at the staff's first refusal to down the blighter (usually that old pratt radio RMF), I simply get the family reunited with their coats pronto and insist that we have it away on our toes.
I don't get it - why do so many restaurants (and pubs) in Poland seem to think that loud music is an essential? No-one seems to want it, yet they still do it...why?! It's a great mystery to me - as is the great way that you can offer to make a reservation for 20+ people on condition that they turn the music down to background level - and many of them say no!
Doubled.
The teaching handbook says NOT to criticise your new country of abode - but as we are seasoned taxpayers methinks we should sneer wherever we are faced with this appalling affront.
Unless it's tastefully done music and to background hum levels, at the staff's first refusal to down the blighter (usually that old pratt radio RMF), I simply get the family reunited with their coats pronto and insist that we have it away on our toes.
Dougpol2
20 May 2010
Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]
Thanks for that - BTW the first is great (though eccentrically priced - some of their British beers are cheaper than Tesco, their wines are 2o per cent marked up....
They have fantastic Italian cake too :)))))
Bomi are absolute shite.
Also worth checking would be Piotr i Pawel and Bomi supermarkets.
Thanks for that - BTW the first is great (though eccentrically priced - some of their British beers are cheaper than Tesco, their wines are 2o per cent marked up....
They have fantastic Italian cake too :)))))
Bomi are absolute shite.
Dougpol2
20 May 2010
News / Flood situation worsens in southern Poland [119]
Everybody got insurance there now Wroclaw?
Or do we have to bail them out again? I already paid last time :((
Everybody got insurance there now Wroclaw?
Or do we have to bail them out again? I already paid last time :((
Dougpol2
20 May 2010
Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]
Back on the beer this weekend for my good friend the Doctor's graduation ceremony. Will try that Zywe stuff and hunt out the above in the delis of Katowice........
Chocs away!
Lubelski pils is excellent but Zwierzyniec is sublime, by far and away my favourite pasteurised Polish beer
Back on the beer this weekend for my good friend the Doctor's graduation ceremony. Will try that Zywe stuff and hunt out the above in the delis of Katowice........
Chocs away!
Dougpol2
20 May 2010
Work / Moving to Poland from the USA. Question concerning CELTA certificate.I need help [32]
The Celta - I would say to the original poster, It gives some self-confidence, and a passport. Some will live without it - horses for courses, it takes the heat off a little as another poster just said. Still, what does it really prove? Not sure if I ever expect to be hired, or would hire a teach, on that 700 quid piece of parchment alone.
Some can, some can't......... and before I criticise others I always look to myself - hope the trainers do too!
still I chose to do the CELTA. It is a worthy investment and many who are serious ask for it.
The Celta - I would say to the original poster, It gives some self-confidence, and a passport. Some will live without it - horses for courses, it takes the heat off a little as another poster just said. Still, what does it really prove? Not sure if I ever expect to be hired, or would hire a teach, on that 700 quid piece of parchment alone.
Some can, some can't......... and before I criticise others I always look to myself - hope the trainers do too!
Dougpol2
19 May 2010
Work / Moving to Poland from the USA. Question concerning CELTA certificate.I need help [32]
Just learn to be a brown-noser and you'll be fine. The RSA was originally created by that chap who created International House, to earn himself a few bob, and to act to teaching like a driving licence does to driving.
Just because one holds the modern equivalent doesn't mean one can teach, just as a driving licence doesn't prove much either.
The difference is that there isin't any arse licking to be done when training for one of the above.
I've heard nothing but scare stories about how difficult it is?
Just learn to be a brown-noser and you'll be fine. The RSA was originally created by that chap who created International House, to earn himself a few bob, and to act to teaching like a driving licence does to driving.
Just because one holds the modern equivalent doesn't mean one can teach, just as a driving licence doesn't prove much either.
The difference is that there isin't any arse licking to be done when training for one of the above.
Dougpol2
18 May 2010
News / Flood situation worsens in southern Poland [119]
People in Malapolska are complaining as usual - that the mountain rivers are not regulated by channels and dams.
Sorry but I the tax payer am certainly not going to pay for them to erect their houses in a rural idyll near a river.
The solution is simple - build a house on higher ground - or be properly insured. You'll get **** all of my taxes if I have any choice in the matter. :((
People in Malapolska are complaining as usual - that the mountain rivers are not regulated by channels and dams.
Sorry but I the tax payer am certainly not going to pay for them to erect their houses in a rural idyll near a river.
The solution is simple - build a house on higher ground - or be properly insured. You'll get **** all of my taxes if I have any choice in the matter. :((
Dougpol2
14 May 2010
Love / Polish girls attitudes towards sex. [568]
In the UK apparently not - more women than men have affairs...... Or maybe the men don't admit to it even in a sex survey - short of an Orwellian police state with hidden screening everywhere, or honest sampling, there really is no way of knowing.
v never cheated either but TripTic most men cheat and i reckon if people were honest theres a far higher percentage of men than women
In the UK apparently not - more women than men have affairs...... Or maybe the men don't admit to it even in a sex survey - short of an Orwellian police state with hidden screening everywhere, or honest sampling, there really is no way of knowing.
Dougpol2
14 May 2010
Genealogy / What are common Polish character traits? [417]
I have known Poles all my life - my "uncle" was from Plock.
My generalisations or rather stereotypes:
Likeable: Very sociable, inquisitive,
generous to those they are introduced to formally,
Cultured (Polish studies to 18...) have plenty to say (interesting),
Hard working so generally happy to lend a hand (paid or favour) when you're in a spot, will help you out on a Sunday - eg if your car breaks down outside their workshop during their Sunday lunch.
Up for a party (unlike some tedious Brits of the Katowice past lol),
Extremely affectionate to those they care about.....
Families tight, as it should be
Artistic: Great blues players, and so on. Rock on SBB and Ryszard :)
Competitive
Great self discipline - don't let themselves go like slob Anglo-Saxons do
Know that dentists exist and what they are for
Brave and wont take any shite, plenty of spunk, just like us Brits!
Not so likeable:
Apparent unfriendliness: Paradoxes abound from the above stertypical nonsense....:It freaks me out when I'm sitting on a log in the forest munching through my sandwiches, and some mushroom picker or hiker comes along. An Anglo-Saxon would think it's normal to say hello, in whatever appropriate register. Well, most poles don't.
Poles are quite obsessed with money. I can never buy a bargain at any of their computer or electronic markets/ car boots as they always value everything too highly, and second hand really is just not worth the asking price, and they are strangely unable to haggle or take it as an affront,
Snobbery. Constant questions like how much did that cost you? Why do you drive a ten year old car? Lol
Judgemental - usually about the private life of somebody who is "family" or neighbour,but it really is none of their concern
Know all experts - my mother in law has apparently majored in at least 10 disciplines and is a master banker to boot.
Complainers as has been stated. "Communism could never work; but capitalism isin't working either"
Non P.C. at best - cloaked under the excuse of "he's just different and I don't understand"
TV images of thousands of dismembered dead bodies on the streets of Rwanda draw no comment at all - presumably because they are black - while two men kissing at a civil ceremony in San Francisco brings snorts of revulsion
Annoyingly self smug about religion. "I took communion today, so I qualify - you don't"
As somebody else said - like the Japanese, the word sorry is too often missing and can lead to clashes, not that Poles are confrontational, they just think that a money back offer for faulty goods is enough......
Shameless and always think they "got away with it" as in - "Yes, I was in the Party, but you had to be in it to change it" - LOL
I have known Poles all my life - my "uncle" was from Plock.
My generalisations or rather stereotypes:
Likeable: Very sociable, inquisitive,
generous to those they are introduced to formally,
Cultured (Polish studies to 18...) have plenty to say (interesting),
Hard working so generally happy to lend a hand (paid or favour) when you're in a spot, will help you out on a Sunday - eg if your car breaks down outside their workshop during their Sunday lunch.
Up for a party (unlike some tedious Brits of the Katowice past lol),
Extremely affectionate to those they care about.....
Families tight, as it should be
Artistic: Great blues players, and so on. Rock on SBB and Ryszard :)
Competitive
Great self discipline - don't let themselves go like slob Anglo-Saxons do
Know that dentists exist and what they are for
Brave and wont take any shite, plenty of spunk, just like us Brits!
Not so likeable:
Apparent unfriendliness: Paradoxes abound from the above stertypical nonsense....:It freaks me out when I'm sitting on a log in the forest munching through my sandwiches, and some mushroom picker or hiker comes along. An Anglo-Saxon would think it's normal to say hello, in whatever appropriate register. Well, most poles don't.
Poles are quite obsessed with money. I can never buy a bargain at any of their computer or electronic markets/ car boots as they always value everything too highly, and second hand really is just not worth the asking price, and they are strangely unable to haggle or take it as an affront,
Snobbery. Constant questions like how much did that cost you? Why do you drive a ten year old car? Lol
Judgemental - usually about the private life of somebody who is "family" or neighbour,but it really is none of their concern
Know all experts - my mother in law has apparently majored in at least 10 disciplines and is a master banker to boot.
Complainers as has been stated. "Communism could never work; but capitalism isin't working either"
Non P.C. at best - cloaked under the excuse of "he's just different and I don't understand"
TV images of thousands of dismembered dead bodies on the streets of Rwanda draw no comment at all - presumably because they are black - while two men kissing at a civil ceremony in San Francisco brings snorts of revulsion
Annoyingly self smug about religion. "I took communion today, so I qualify - you don't"
As somebody else said - like the Japanese, the word sorry is too often missing and can lead to clashes, not that Poles are confrontational, they just think that a money back offer for faulty goods is enough......
Shameless and always think they "got away with it" as in - "Yes, I was in the Party, but you had to be in it to change it" - LOL
Dougpol2
14 May 2010
Life / Driving test, English speaking driving school in Warsaw? [95]
Right - thnx. Thank God for that! My daughter is Polish and I thought I was going to get fleeced :(
Right - thnx. Thank God for that! My daughter is Polish and I thought I was going to get fleeced :(
Dougpol2
13 May 2010
Life / Driving test, English speaking driving school in Warsaw? [95]
Outrageous! To take a test in Britain costs what? 40 quid? It's up to you how you prepare. If you aren't ready to step up, the examiner will stop the test, and drive the test car back to the Driving test centre. Game over!
None of this 500 quid to learn to drive nonsense; it's a state sponsored rip off.
Get the kids out on some Sunday open space for practice, a few lessons with the old instructor, a few with their da, and they're away.
1500 zl max is what it's worth IMO
it was about 2500 Plz.
Outrageous! To take a test in Britain costs what? 40 quid? It's up to you how you prepare. If you aren't ready to step up, the examiner will stop the test, and drive the test car back to the Driving test centre. Game over!
None of this 500 quid to learn to drive nonsense; it's a state sponsored rip off.
Get the kids out on some Sunday open space for practice, a few lessons with the old instructor, a few with their da, and they're away.
1500 zl max is what it's worth IMO
Dougpol2
13 May 2010
News / ANTI-POLONISM IN EUROPE [39]
No - just a desperate insult when they've lost an argument or have no real reason. Whenever I have a debate with anyone in England and am critical of something, they often say, "well, **** off back to Poland then if it's so great" ( suggesting of course, that compared to magic Britain, it isin't!)
No - just a desperate insult when they've lost an argument or have no real reason. Whenever I have a debate with anyone in England and am critical of something, they often say, "well, **** off back to Poland then if it's so great" ( suggesting of course, that compared to magic Britain, it isin't!)
Dougpol2
13 May 2010
Life / Driving test, English speaking driving school in Warsaw? [95]
Not anyone in their right mind. There was Millers, and then there was Miller Lite. Words fail.....
There's England v USA in just 4 weeks. I'll probably be back on the beer for the first time since New Year and on the Budweiser.
The real one, not the American gnats pizz :)
Amazing that Mel Gibson was over the alchohol limit, American beer doesn't have any alcohol does it? Presumably that's why - to "allow" them to drinkl and drive?
Though Poland's nasty sugar beer with high liver rotting alcholic content didn't a top 2000 people getting nicked for drink driving over Easter. Do they have to redo the test?
more work for the driving schools then!
But who would want to drink any American alcohol anyway? ;)
Not anyone in their right mind. There was Millers, and then there was Miller Lite. Words fail.....
There's England v USA in just 4 weeks. I'll probably be back on the beer for the first time since New Year and on the Budweiser.
The real one, not the American gnats pizz :)
Amazing that Mel Gibson was over the alchohol limit, American beer doesn't have any alcohol does it? Presumably that's why - to "allow" them to drinkl and drive?
Though Poland's nasty sugar beer with high liver rotting alcholic content didn't a top 2000 people getting nicked for drink driving over Easter. Do they have to redo the test?
more work for the driving schools then!
Dougpol2
13 May 2010
Life / Driving test, English speaking driving school in Warsaw? [95]
Not true.
The editor of Gazeta Wyborzca used to dine out on this story. He went into a liquor store outside his hotel in Illinois and asked for a bottle of gin (why gin and not vodka he didn't elaborate - presumably he likes gin )
When asked for an Illinois drivers licence as proof of age.he proffered his Polish passport (he was 24 at the time.
Whereby he got the retort "I didn't ask for your godamn passport - the law requires I ask to see your state driving licence".
Friend answered that he didn't possess one ( being a tourist on a write-up for said paper)
"Well - I can't sell you any liquor without an Illinois licence sir..."
This is gospel for crying out loud. Lol.
On the way back to his hotel, thirsty and disgruntled, he got cited by the traffic cops for walking on the turnpike (there was no walkway, or pavement in B Eng, because the whole population used the petrol driven horse and nobody walked anywhere)
That's no disadvantage - a full Polish licence is far more useful than an American one.
Not true.
The editor of Gazeta Wyborzca used to dine out on this story. He went into a liquor store outside his hotel in Illinois and asked for a bottle of gin (why gin and not vodka he didn't elaborate - presumably he likes gin )
When asked for an Illinois drivers licence as proof of age.he proffered his Polish passport (he was 24 at the time.
Whereby he got the retort "I didn't ask for your godamn passport - the law requires I ask to see your state driving licence".
Friend answered that he didn't possess one ( being a tourist on a write-up for said paper)
"Well - I can't sell you any liquor without an Illinois licence sir..."
This is gospel for crying out loud. Lol.
On the way back to his hotel, thirsty and disgruntled, he got cited by the traffic cops for walking on the turnpike (there was no walkway, or pavement in B Eng, because the whole population used the petrol driven horse and nobody walked anywhere)
Dougpol2
11 May 2010
Life / Free online Polish Television (TVN). [15]
Now that is a stupid business model. Pay to view? Don't think so somehow. Advert supported maybe.....
Some are free while others cost little money to watch.
Now that is a stupid business model. Pay to view? Don't think so somehow. Advert supported maybe.....
Dougpol2
11 May 2010
Life / Driving test, English speaking driving school in Warsaw? [95]
Exactly Zuczek - people wax lyrical about the "system," when my students' stories illustrate perfectly clearly that the process is rather too subjective, or worse. Getting better, but still some way to go.
And what about this protectionist bollocks that you MUST pay for a certified driving instructor? I swear to God I could teach better driving techniques than most of them - if they learnt themselves from someone who was perpetuating the old myths of "never give way" and "don't leave a gap in front of you to the next car - to prevent someone cutting you up from the inside" LOL
To be fair, most young drivers seem to be doing it right - so maybe there is some method in the Driving centre madness after all. It's the business types and the old ditherers who are downright dangerous drivers at times, and who deserve a year off the roads to be taught a sharp shock, in the case of the first group of offenders
But learning to drive in Poland is not a cheap option.
And I too will not be changing my UK licence for a polish one while this is still a grey area.
Seems there is no standard...I know people who tested 10 times and people who tested once...and neither is a better driver than the other. Seems the one just got unlucky with examiners.
Exactly Zuczek - people wax lyrical about the "system," when my students' stories illustrate perfectly clearly that the process is rather too subjective, or worse. Getting better, but still some way to go.
And what about this protectionist bollocks that you MUST pay for a certified driving instructor? I swear to God I could teach better driving techniques than most of them - if they learnt themselves from someone who was perpetuating the old myths of "never give way" and "don't leave a gap in front of you to the next car - to prevent someone cutting you up from the inside" LOL
To be fair, most young drivers seem to be doing it right - so maybe there is some method in the Driving centre madness after all. It's the business types and the old ditherers who are downright dangerous drivers at times, and who deserve a year off the roads to be taught a sharp shock, in the case of the first group of offenders
But learning to drive in Poland is not a cheap option.
And I too will not be changing my UK licence for a polish one while this is still a grey area.
Dougpol2
11 May 2010
Life / Driving test, English speaking driving school in Warsaw? [95]
I was talking about the system of quotas, whereas for what appear to the layman to be reasons of financial expediency,only a certain number of learners are passed from a given centre on a particular day allegedly.
I don't get that one, sorry. What's wrong with the UK hill start and the reverse around a T junction? In reality that's what you have to be able to do, and the reverse Reginald Mulhausen parking manoevre lol - remember that TV public information film on British television in the 70s?
The Polish driving test is very hard to defend in functional terms in my opinion. And it was potentially designed to ensure that cock ups on the cone reverse are quite likely, even where the learner in question can drive perfectly well. Not a viable test of driving ability and spatial skill. Again IMO
To be honest, most of it has been stamped out these days. The fact that all cars are fitted with cameras and microphones makes it nearly impossible for examiners to accept bribes - the only way in is through the head of the examination centres, and even then, the current case concerns 2006, not 2010.
I was talking about the system of quotas, whereas for what appear to the layman to be reasons of financial expediency,only a certain number of learners are passed from a given centre on a particular day allegedly.
Anyway, the Polish test doesn't make sense. When was the last time anyone out driving had to reverse through a set of traffic cones?
In a sense, the yard tests that you can actually control the car in the first place - which is no bad thing. What's the point in someone taking the test if they can't even perform two basic tests?
I don't get that one, sorry. What's wrong with the UK hill start and the reverse around a T junction? In reality that's what you have to be able to do, and the reverse Reginald Mulhausen parking manoevre lol - remember that TV public information film on British television in the 70s?
The Polish driving test is very hard to defend in functional terms in my opinion. And it was potentially designed to ensure that cock ups on the cone reverse are quite likely, even where the learner in question can drive perfectly well. Not a viable test of driving ability and spatial skill. Again IMO
Dougpol2
10 May 2010
Law / What are the bike laws in Poland? [30]
OK - thanks for the warning. Maybe I should consider giving the police a little more credence, specially as they're reading this.
OK - thanks for the warning. Maybe I should consider giving the police a little more credence, specially as they're reading this.
Dougpol2
10 May 2010
News / Jarosław Kaczyński sharing his words with Russians! [57]
We've already had this discussion Seanus. You and me obviously share the opinion that Poland is a nice place to live - especially if you love the outdoor life. But obviously we differ as to the cause of this accident.
The only real character defect in the hard working and sociable Pole is that he likes to take risks; that's all it was, along the same lines of what very likely happened to Sikorsky.
But everything has to be conspiracy theory, to give some amusement and sell copy, just like a vision of the Madonna appearing on some bleak hillside, and I'm amazed and tickled pink that you would choose to go along with it. :)
We've already had this discussion Seanus. You and me obviously share the opinion that Poland is a nice place to live - especially if you love the outdoor life. But obviously we differ as to the cause of this accident.
The only real character defect in the hard working and sociable Pole is that he likes to take risks; that's all it was, along the same lines of what very likely happened to Sikorsky.
But everything has to be conspiracy theory, to give some amusement and sell copy, just like a vision of the Madonna appearing on some bleak hillside, and I'm amazed and tickled pink that you would choose to go along with it. :)
Dougpol2
10 May 2010
News / Jarosław Kaczyński sharing his words with Russians! [57]
So why did the British apologise then, if there was nothing to apologise for? (in your view)
Because I criticise your backward looking self pity you mean? I already stated that Katyn was a war crime - one of the worst.
Some Poles would never be satisfied until it was given number one status on the all time horror list, so much do they enjoy a car smash type scenario. Fair enough; I've made my opinion clear that you do yourselves no favours if you bring up the same subject at every conceivable diplomatic opportunity.
Seriously get real, they had no sense of grievance, because there was no grievance to be had.
So why did the British apologise then, if there was nothing to apologise for? (in your view)
On a more serious note Dougpol you've blasted us with your "opinion" that most Poles find tastless, are you really any kind of contribution to Poland?
Because I criticise your backward looking self pity you mean? I already stated that Katyn was a war crime - one of the worst.
Some Poles would never be satisfied until it was given number one status on the all time horror list, so much do they enjoy a car smash type scenario. Fair enough; I've made my opinion clear that you do yourselves no favours if you bring up the same subject at every conceivable diplomatic opportunity.
Dougpol2
10 May 2010
News / Jarosław Kaczyński sharing his words with Russians! [57]
I'll summarise - I was accused of bad taste for comparing the fire-bombing of Dresden with Katyn, two tragedies of war.
I was saying that the Germans have moved on and accepted the official British government apology for that war crime.
The Russians apologised to Poland too. Some of you haven't accepted it, and the population seem to enjoy mass grief via billboards as if it all happened yesterday.
I wouldn't care less but I have to put up with half the family sitting glued to the TV, brainwashed by the latest TVN24 offerings on the war and Katyn, when there are more pressing subjects, such as death and taxes.
I'll summarise - I was accused of bad taste for comparing the fire-bombing of Dresden with Katyn, two tragedies of war.
I was saying that the Germans have moved on and accepted the official British government apology for that war crime.
The Russians apologised to Poland too. Some of you haven't accepted it, and the population seem to enjoy mass grief via billboards as if it all happened yesterday.
I wouldn't care less but I have to put up with half the family sitting glued to the TV, brainwashed by the latest TVN24 offerings on the war and Katyn, when there are more pressing subjects, such as death and taxes.
Dougpol2
9 May 2010
News / Jarosław Kaczyński sharing his words with Russians! [57]
Mixing the gene pool, employer, rescued a street cat - need I go on :)
What use are you to Polish society?
Mixing the gene pool, employer, rescued a street cat - need I go on :)
Dougpol2
9 May 2010
News / Jarosław Kaczyński sharing his words with Russians! [57]
Fair enough - by the way,any Pole that lives in Britain and doesn't vote, or doesn't contribute, doesn't have a view and is living with other Poles and not actually living amongst the British, is of no use to that society.
Same goes the other way - happy to help on some of the things you cant see for yourselves Socrates.
Sorry buddy the only people i personally confer the right to lecture me or fellow Poles are other Poles or accomplished historians and even then i might cokslap them if they end up spouting nonsence.
Fair enough - by the way,any Pole that lives in Britain and doesn't vote, or doesn't contribute, doesn't have a view and is living with other Poles and not actually living amongst the British, is of no use to that society.
Same goes the other way - happy to help on some of the things you cant see for yourselves Socrates.
Dougpol2
9 May 2010
News / Jarosław Kaczyński sharing his words with Russians! [57]
Just illustrating that I am being fair - but that old rust bucket aka the Battleship General Belgrano was heading away from the 200 mile exclusion zone at the time and was about as dangerous as a lone Derby supporter on a wet Sunday in Nottingham.
It was populism for Maggie - stopped her having to do anything about the unemployed and spending cuts - there's a connection somewhere........
Oh yes, I remember :)) - it suits some Poles to bang on about the past - it is definitely a lot easier than putting money into rebuilding the slum inner cities.
Whatever for? The fcucker wanted sinking.
Just illustrating that I am being fair - but that old rust bucket aka the Battleship General Belgrano was heading away from the 200 mile exclusion zone at the time and was about as dangerous as a lone Derby supporter on a wet Sunday in Nottingham.
It was populism for Maggie - stopped her having to do anything about the unemployed and spending cuts - there's a connection somewhere........
Oh yes, I remember :)) - it suits some Poles to bang on about the past - it is definitely a lot easier than putting money into rebuilding the slum inner cities.
Dougpol2
9 May 2010
News / Jarosław Kaczyński sharing his words with Russians! [57]
Tax payer mate - and sympathy for your obsession, not a lecture :)
dougpol drops by and lectures Poles instead of doing me a personal favour and dying of groin cancer, who the fock gave him the right to say such things to us of all people?
Tax payer mate - and sympathy for your obsession, not a lecture :)
Dougpol2
9 May 2010
News / Jarosław Kaczyński sharing his words with Russians! [57]
What? I fail to see the poor taste.
The world at large has known since the eighties about Katyn and Dresden. They are both on a par as to war crimes of horrific magnitude - Germany has anniversaries for their dead too, but after an official apology from the British over Dresden, we are reconciled. But, yet again, the Polish disaster has to be the greater in your eyes, and a Russian apology, wherever and however it might be, will never satisfy.
Why are the two poor comparison? Are you insinuating that it is because Katyn was face to face murder? And murder from the skies on an innocent civilian population isin't as horrific?
Please do tell why my comparison of two of the larger war crimes of the 20th century is facile, or in bad taste? Maybe in bad taste for Germans then? Or are you saying they are the scum of the earth and their plight doesn't equal the Poles because of war which their grandfathers waged? The women and children of Dresden had nothing to say in the matter - I'mnot going to comment on Katyn because that's you Poles to argue - except to say if it had happened to us British we would have got over it, and definitely not had it rammed down our throats all over city billboards.
That is your poor taste. IMO
I am British, and prepared to have ill will against my own (war time) government for ridicule, as to Dresden, or for sinking the General Belgrano in the Falklands conflict, so it's not as if I'm biased as to which act was the most horrific. We now know what happened at Katyn - What do you and the Poles who cant move on want? Photographs?
completely different circumstance.. i find it extremely in poor taste that you'd even make that comparison.
What? I fail to see the poor taste.
The world at large has known since the eighties about Katyn and Dresden. They are both on a par as to war crimes of horrific magnitude - Germany has anniversaries for their dead too, but after an official apology from the British over Dresden, we are reconciled. But, yet again, the Polish disaster has to be the greater in your eyes, and a Russian apology, wherever and however it might be, will never satisfy.
Why are the two poor comparison? Are you insinuating that it is because Katyn was face to face murder? And murder from the skies on an innocent civilian population isin't as horrific?
Please do tell why my comparison of two of the larger war crimes of the 20th century is facile, or in bad taste? Maybe in bad taste for Germans then? Or are you saying they are the scum of the earth and their plight doesn't equal the Poles because of war which their grandfathers waged? The women and children of Dresden had nothing to say in the matter - I'mnot going to comment on Katyn because that's you Poles to argue - except to say if it had happened to us British we would have got over it, and definitely not had it rammed down our throats all over city billboards.
That is your poor taste. IMO
I am British, and prepared to have ill will against my own (war time) government for ridicule, as to Dresden, or for sinking the General Belgrano in the Falklands conflict, so it's not as if I'm biased as to which act was the most horrific. We now know what happened at Katyn - What do you and the Poles who cant move on want? Photographs?
Dougpol2
9 May 2010
News / Jarosław Kaczyński sharing his words with Russians! [57]
Mmmm - not convinced. The only bit I saw, as I can't stand Kaczor's hypocritical habit of being filmed in front of the family heirlooms ( no tasteless "villa" for him! ), talked down to the Russians, which their president clearly did not do when he spoke to the Poles.
Not that I am pro Russian in any way, but if I were - I would point out that Katyn occured 70 years ago - and was a another form of mass murder along the lines of the firebombing of Dresden - both war crimes were perpetuated in the name of "expedience."
I was teaching in Dresden for a while - other than curiosty as to the reasons why, I never ever met hostility. The Germans let sleeping dogs lie in general terms, an admirable quality that some Poles would do well to copy.
RE: Katyn: As the musical genius Mr James Marshall Hendrix used to admonish his fans who were crying out for "Hey Joe" - You're living in the past!
Mmmm - not convinced. The only bit I saw, as I can't stand Kaczor's hypocritical habit of being filmed in front of the family heirlooms ( no tasteless "villa" for him! ), talked down to the Russians, which their president clearly did not do when he spoke to the Poles.
Not that I am pro Russian in any way, but if I were - I would point out that Katyn occured 70 years ago - and was a another form of mass murder along the lines of the firebombing of Dresden - both war crimes were perpetuated in the name of "expedience."
I was teaching in Dresden for a while - other than curiosty as to the reasons why, I never ever met hostility. The Germans let sleeping dogs lie in general terms, an admirable quality that some Poles would do well to copy.
RE: Katyn: As the musical genius Mr James Marshall Hendrix used to admonish his fans who were crying out for "Hey Joe" - You're living in the past!
Dougpol2
8 May 2010
Law / What are the bike laws in Poland? [30]
But the Karta Pobytu is no longer legal proof of ID - it doesn't actually exist other than as a relic for EU citizens. When a foreigner is behind the wheel or has to ID himself he has to produce his passport - this doesn't have any Pesel information of course - and the Bill didn't ask for such info when giving mme 4 points for not wearing a seat belt.
Therefore I reckon the 4 points never found it's way to my (UK) licence.
Specially as my current licence was issued in 1983 :)
Nope - no such law in the UK - A sensible country with a proper perspective on some matters, just as Poland is also sensible on some matters where in the UK you would get hung out to dry.
UK law - you can be "drunk in charge of a bicycle." Instant fixed penalty of 80 quid or soemthing.....
ertainly for non-EU citizens, they will have the number on the Karta Pobytu - which the police will undoubtably want to see.
But the Karta Pobytu is no longer legal proof of ID - it doesn't actually exist other than as a relic for EU citizens. When a foreigner is behind the wheel or has to ID himself he has to produce his passport - this doesn't have any Pesel information of course - and the Bill didn't ask for such info when giving mme 4 points for not wearing a seat belt.
Therefore I reckon the 4 points never found it's way to my (UK) licence.
Specially as my current licence was issued in 1983 :)
Oh like you are are really going to kill someone going a half a mile per hour on a bike.! It is easy money for the police, why should you lose your drivers licence because you have been caught drunk driving on a bike. Maybe it is the same in the uk. I don't know, but is seems pretty unfair.
Nope - no such law in the UK - A sensible country with a proper perspective on some matters, just as Poland is also sensible on some matters where in the UK you would get hung out to dry.
UK law - you can be "drunk in charge of a bicycle." Instant fixed penalty of 80 quid or soemthing.....