Olga
18 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
CONVEX: Read my last 3 posts, please, if you could be so kind.
CONVEX: Read my last 3 posts, please, if you could be so kind.
Olga
18 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
GET THE PILOT OR EX-PILOT IN FROM THE OTHER BOARD.
GET THE PILOT OR EX-PILOT IN FROM THE OTHER BOARD.
Olga
18 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
DURING THE LANDING APPROACH, NO OTHER INSTRUMENTS ARE AS CRITICAL TO LANDING AS THIS. WHICH IS WHY THE PILOT WOULD NOT HAVE REPORTED ANY INSTRUMENT ERRORS OR MALFUNCTIONS AT ALTITUDE. ALL HELL WOULD BREAK LOOSE ONLY UPON APPROACH TO LAND.
DURING THE LANDING APPROACH, NO OTHER INSTRUMENTS ARE AS CRITICAL TO LANDING AS THIS. WHICH IS WHY THE PILOT WOULD NOT HAVE REPORTED ANY INSTRUMENT ERRORS OR MALFUNCTIONS AT ALTITUDE. ALL HELL WOULD BREAK LOOSE ONLY UPON APPROACH TO LAND.
Olga
18 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
Stay on topic. ONE OR THE OTHER IS VITAL for the pilot to land the plane.
Stay on topic. ONE OR THE OTHER IS VITAL for the pilot to land the plane.
Olga
18 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
If ONLY BOTH TLS and TAWS were removed/tampered with, how would the plane land?
These are both to ensure proper orientation at landing approach--TLS for the correct PATH approach and TAWS which warns pilots when they are too close to the ground.
Tell me: What would the result be if BOTH of these were not working?
If ONLY BOTH TLS and TAWS were removed/tampered with, how would the plane land?
These are both to ensure proper orientation at landing approach--TLS for the correct PATH approach and TAWS which warns pilots when they are too close to the ground.
Tell me: What would the result be if BOTH of these were not working?
Olga
18 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
That's exactly my point. It could be removed and installed at will. There are 2 types of ILS: fixed and portable.
There was never a fixed ILS at Smolensk.
That's exactly my point. It could be removed and installed at will. There are 2 types of ILS: fixed and portable.
Olga
18 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
What would the result be if BOTH of these occurred:
1) the airport had the ILS removed after Tusk's visit, but before Kaczynksi's
2) the TAWS system on the plane was removed/tampered with during its servicing in Russia
What would the result be if BOTH of these occurred:
1) the airport had the ILS removed after Tusk's visit, but before Kaczynksi's
2) the TAWS system on the plane was removed/tampered with during its servicing in Russia
Olga
18 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
Please listen, I think I know how the plane was sabotaged, exactly what equipment when and where. Let's debate politely and calmly. Seriously.
Please listen, I think I know how the plane was sabotaged, exactly what equipment when and where. Let's debate politely and calmly. Seriously.
Olga
18 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
I have a theory. Let's test it ;)
I have a theory. Let's test it ;)
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Who will be the next President of Poland? [51]
Dedicated to z_darius with "most sincere, heartfelt, brotherly" looove:
youtube.com/watch?v=nTWcstwyM8M
Somebody, find out who sings this and let me know. See how much I love my brothers?--I even come bearing most thoughtful gifts for you *sarcasm off*
Dedicated to z_darius with "most sincere, heartfelt, brotherly" looove:
youtube.com/watch?v=nTWcstwyM8M
Somebody, find out who sings this and let me know. See how much I love my brothers?--I even come bearing most thoughtful gifts for you *sarcasm off*
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
Neutral's always been good for Poland, like Switzerland maybe... ;););)
Neutral's always been good for Poland, like Switzerland maybe... ;););)
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
To put it mildly.
isn't Lushenko a bit partisan?
To put it mildly.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
Check your source, Velund--Russia Today is state-sponsored propaganda. Especially when I hear something like this:
If they're moving it, why don't they just get Polish investigator's to arrange the remnants to be tagged and shipped to Poland. Confiscation?
Check your source, Velund--Russia Today is state-sponsored propaganda. Especially when I hear something like this:
all parts of aircraft moved from a crash site to a secure storage place until end of investigation
If they're moving it, why don't they just get Polish investigator's to arrange the remnants to be tagged and shipped to Poland. Confiscation?
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
I'd be scared to take a s**t, lol.
Ahem, Velund, I thought you don't have speakers and can't actually listen to the video. What's up with that?
Not a best place to live, of course.
I'd be scared to take a s**t, lol.
Ahem, Velund, I thought you don't have speakers and can't actually listen to the video. What's up with that?
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
I would be inclined to suspect it might be too old to apply here...
Ok, that would be great. Then we can have intelligent conversation. Right now it's going nowhere. And I will look into finding video of wailing choo-choo train for you ;-)
Ask others around on this forum to see what they think of the video. Oh, I forgot you mentioned earlier you didn't have speakers so you haven't actually "heard" the video...did you suddenly find some? I don't want to waste my time on a pointless argument if you're just jerking me around.
The presence/absence of trains and firetrucks does nothing to discredit what is actually said, heard, and seen on this video, otherwise.
1972, film
I would be inclined to suspect it might be too old to apply here...
If I will be able to find that disk tomorrow, I'll try to cut this fragment. Not sure that I still have it, though.
Ok, that would be great. Then we can have intelligent conversation. Right now it's going nowhere. And I will look into finding video of wailing choo-choo train for you ;-)
Ask others around on this forum to see what they think of the video. Oh, I forgot you mentioned earlier you didn't have speakers so you haven't actually "heard" the video...did you suddenly find some? I don't want to waste my time on a pointless argument if you're just jerking me around.
I simply do not have speakers on this computer to hear soundtrack of this flick.
The presence/absence of trains and firetrucks does nothing to discredit what is actually said, heard, and seen on this video, otherwise.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
You live next door to Kremlin? lol ;-)
Im pretty sure it was my neighbour
You live next door to Kremlin? lol ;-)
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
Velund, I would have to hear it be able to offer a valid opinion. I'll try to find out more, but really it's a train. I read Polish reports (how refreshing for a change!) that no emegency vehicles were called until much later, in which Poles were questioning the reason for that, certainly later than the video that only shot within minutes. Again, refer to the overhead view of the site and the house are only a short dash away. And you can tell the Russian in the video was running because he's out of breath.
Velund, I would have to hear it be able to offer a valid opinion. I'll try to find out more, but really it's a train. I read Polish reports (how refreshing for a change!) that no emegency vehicles were called until much later, in which Poles were questioning the reason for that, certainly later than the video that only shot within minutes. Again, refer to the overhead view of the site and the house are only a short dash away. And you can tell the Russian in the video was running because he's out of breath.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
History / Anger at yet another Polish tragedy [30]
I am both extremely pissed and heartbroken at the loss of the people who made Poland what it is today. Truly the 20th century architects of this country. But I strongly believe the Polish government should be pressed more by the people to demand more from this investigation, and not behave like such a Russian lap-dog. The only uprising I believe in here, is getting EU accident investigators in ASAP. Having had a week already with the data recorders, crash site, and the wreck to their disposal the Russians have had ample opportunity to tamper with evidence. And that video of the wreck in the forest utterly chills me. I can't get it out of my mind, it's just too eerie. Now imagine if we hadn't had the fortune of that Russian having the wherewithal to grab his camera and set out on foot. Where the hell would we be? A picture speaks a thousand words, and it's never been truer...
I am both extremely pissed and heartbroken at the loss of the people who made Poland what it is today. Truly the 20th century architects of this country. But I strongly believe the Polish government should be pressed more by the people to demand more from this investigation, and not behave like such a Russian lap-dog. The only uprising I believe in here, is getting EU accident investigators in ASAP. Having had a week already with the data recorders, crash site, and the wreck to their disposal the Russians have had ample opportunity to tamper with evidence. And that video of the wreck in the forest utterly chills me. I can't get it out of my mind, it's just too eerie. Now imagine if we hadn't had the fortune of that Russian having the wherewithal to grab his camera and set out on foot. Where the hell would we be? A picture speaks a thousand words, and it's never been truer...
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
Okay, so we agree to disagree. Let's get another opinion.
Okay, so we agree to disagree. Let's get another opinion.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
I have heard Polish fire trucks--they must be similar. And it did not sound like this. Seriously, I'm quite sure it's a train. My fellow Ukrainian, Russian, and Polish friends have all seen it and we all agree. No joke. This is big news for all of us.
I have heard Polish fire trucks--they must be similar. And it did not sound like this. Seriously, I'm quite sure it's a train. My fellow Ukrainian, Russian, and Polish friends have all seen it and we all agree. No joke. This is big news for all of us.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
LOL, *ouch*
But I don't believe that Satan came by train.
When I was little boy, I thinked that metro tunnels is very-very long and if someone will go by that tunnels far enough, they may even come to hell. ;)
;) I was 5 yrs old or so that time. ;)
LOL, *ouch*
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
I'm really curious now what they sound like, to compare. If you have a chance can you find something, maybe youtube video? If it's Russian, I wouldn't have much of a successful search.
Russian fire trucks sirena is different from Western.
I'm really curious now what they sound like, to compare. If you have a chance can you find something, maybe youtube video? If it's Russian, I wouldn't have much of a successful search.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
Niedorobiony Жопа
Niedorobiony Жопа
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
Weird. Where I live, I have train tracks within a kilometer and the train here sounds like that when the conductor is having a fit.
No, it's Russian standard fire truck sirena.
Weird. Where I live, I have train tracks within a kilometer and the train here sounds like that when the conductor is having a fit.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
That is not even remotely Polish, I can assure. I have headphones on now as we speak.
The Russians were instructed to talk as polish
That is not even remotely Polish, I can assure. I have headphones on now as we speak.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
Well, then...I think we might have something here.
That sounds like a train blasting its horn.... There have been reports that no fire trucks or ambulances were called out so soon. This video is reported to take place within minutes of the impact. If you look at the aerial shot of the crash site, you can see residences just to the right--it would only take them seconds to run there. Well, if you get "gnat" out of that like I do, and the identical word in Polish is wygnać--shots were for sure fired to scare them away. Wygnać / gnat have threatening meanings in both languages.
Use headphones, if you have any somewhere. I'm not high-tech enough to pull that off.
But I have headphones on that cover me entire ear. There's a lot more that's said by the other guy with the scared Russian, the older guy, at 1:19 minutes but I have no idea what it is. Can one of you translate? Also, what is the exact translation of what the guy is cursing? I get the gist of it, but just curious.
Well, then...I think we might have something here.
sounds of fire trucks sirena support it
That sounds like a train blasting its horn.... There have been reports that no fire trucks or ambulances were called out so soon. This video is reported to take place within minutes of the impact. If you look at the aerial shot of the crash site, you can see residences just to the right--it would only take them seconds to run there. Well, if you get "gnat" out of that like I do, and the identical word in Polish is wygnać--shots were for sure fired to scare them away. Wygnać / gnat have threatening meanings in both languages.
I simply do not have speakers on this computer to hear soundtrack of this flick. Maybe someone can separate soundtrack from flick and amplify it by some software that used to recover old recordings?
Use headphones, if you have any somewhere. I'm not high-tech enough to pull that off.
But I have headphones on that cover me entire ear. There's a lot more that's said by the other guy with the scared Russian, the older guy, at 1:19 minutes but I have no idea what it is. Can one of you translate? Also, what is the exact translation of what the guy is cursing? I get the gist of it, but just curious.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
The exact word for that in Polish is "wygnać" which means to banish with force. Yes, it's the exact same meaning in Polish. Okay... I still have misgivings about that whole video. It chills me to the bone.
"gnat'" mean not very polite way to drive someone from some place. It may mean even something forceful or somewhat threatening.
The exact word for that in Polish is "wygnać" which means to banish with force. Yes, it's the exact same meaning in Polish. Okay... I still have misgivings about that whole video. It chills me to the bone.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Poland back to reality after Sunday ? [30]
That's odd; we've had a lot of print coverage on it here, not so much televised though. I guess it depends on where you are.
the 70th anniversary of katyn killings was barely mentioned in the print or news
That's odd; we've had a lot of print coverage on it here, not so much televised though. I guess it depends on where you are.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
This is it, then, I'm almost certain. Have a listen right at 50 seconds. They start talking at about 38 seconds... I wonder if you can make it out. The time at 50 seconds is much clearer, which is where that phrase is shouted. And then the shots fire just a few seconds later.
"Davai gnat' ih otsuda"
This is it, then, I'm almost certain. Have a listen right at 50 seconds. They start talking at about 38 seconds... I wonder if you can make it out. The time at 50 seconds is much clearer, which is where that phrase is shouted. And then the shots fire just a few seconds later.
Olga
17 Apr 2010
News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]
Time at 50 seconds on the dot. And then what do you hear few seconds later? Bang. Bang. :-P
"Давай гната курва!"
Translation: "Let's get out of here, fu*k!"
Translation: "Let's get out of here, fu*k!"
Time at 50 seconds on the dot. And then what do you hear few seconds later? Bang. Bang. :-P