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Natali   
11 Apr 2010
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Natali: That military aerodrome didnt have a ICAO certificate.

that aerodrome is and was in bad shape and it's a fact in Russia.
if you can read russian I can quote:
"Остается невыясненной причина, по которой пилоты самолета ТУ-154 с первыми лицами Республики Польша на борту решил использовать для посадки плохо приспособленный военный аэродром «Северный» возле города Печерск Смоленской области, а не совершил посадку в аэропорту Смоленска, пишет RUpor... See More.Отметим, что факт существования военного аэродрома в том или ином месте на территории РФ является гостайной и без вмешательства военного ведомства гражданская диспетчерская служба не может рекомендовать его для посадки иностранных правительственных суден. Тем более, что как отмечает телеканал «Россия 24» перед этим диспетчерская служба аэродрома отказала в посадке российскому военному самолёту."

I watched imyself on tv and there was no kid among the interviewers there, there was a middle age few men and they said exactly what I appointed in previous post.
Natali   
11 Apr 2010
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Be careful what sources you quote.

I'm Russian (had a polish grandmother) therefore, learned not to trust the govermental data. The changing in version is actually official. Other then that there are other sources and analasys that are much more reliable then Putin's tales. Just like about the terorist attack on the subway that was passed on to Chechnia, which was organized by our government and has a direct connection to what is happening in Georgia, Ukraine, Kirgizia and now I believe in Poland.

I agree that "It's still innocent until proven guilty" but I have all the rights to reason I hope.
we'll never have a direct proof but we will see in future why this happend.

There was weather changing going on?

Not sure how to organize the post here (I'm new). Unfortunately u have to apply the answers to where it belongs.
That military aerodrome didnt have a ICAO certificate (not sure if its official statement, probably not) it was stated by Russian non-governmental analysis. Also there is another alternative aerodrome close by available for citizens and its actually well equipped don't know why the President didn't have an honor to land there. Isn't weird that president was on private visit and didn't have an official visiting status by the Russian government?

Speaking of cliping something, have you seen a tree that is as tall as 400-500 meter?
those ppl just gave an interview and dont have a single reason to lie.

About Georgia, Ukraine and Kirgizia, not even going to start (too much to write and too sleepy to do it now).

Natali, then what is your theory? Russia would have a lot to lose if found to be involved in anything shady. If anything, a foreign agent was involved but I fail to see how.

Not exactly, Russia is only proving that can do a lot and push it as far as "needed".
Stalin did it why not Putin?
Especially, since Putin had put Stalin's icons in churches, we can see the deep love towards Stalin's ideology.
Natali   
11 Apr 2010
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Diverting was not an option, as it would have caused everyone to miss the ceremony, which obviously would have been unacceptable.

Professionals make mistakes too.
And who said he made a mistake 4 times?
He made a mistake one time. His last one.

As I know there were two planes. One filled with journalist that landed few minutes before the president’s plane and quite successfully. Again Russia has a full control to change the weather waves (simply saying) to run the plane independently of the pilot. I have a question, why the President's planewas appointed to land on the military aerodrome, that didn’t have ICAO certified equipments?

And again there were witnesses (regular people), saying the plane was unbalanced, meaning crashed on one side and the distance was apprx. 400-500 meter. For the pilot if it’s a fog issue still it’s not a problem to control the balance, even if u are going to crash.

Three mistakes simply because the pilot couldnt land so he made a circle three time and obviously knew that he didn’t suppose to land but somehow risked it??? Weird. there was no mistake, because pilot was aware that he couldnt land at that particular time. Now Russia changed the version stating that he only gave one shot to land, also weird.

Also if it would’ve been any other country, then it wouldn’t sound as suspicious but it’s Putin we talk about, guy who promoted all the misbalance in Ukraine, Georgia and now in Kirgizia, if u think of it it’s the same pace plan.

It could’ve been an accident but… anyway, history will let us know in next twenty years what really happen.
Natali   
11 Apr 2010
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Be gone, village idiots!

why can't you use a little logic with a bright mind of yours?

Accidents do happen but not usually with politicians who are against your political views and not when Russia is changing the versions and keep saying that pilot was unprofessional.

Try to think global and dont forget it's politics where anything can(and mostly will) happen.
Natali   
11 Apr 2010
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

I don’t believe it was an accident. Especially when the half of the countries governmental delegates are involved.
Putin blaming it all on pilot just doesn’t sound right. First they stated that pilot tried to land three times and on the fourth it crashed, sounds fishy, I’m sure that presidents pilot was professional and couldn’t made the same mistake four times.

Also provided versions are never the same, they change it as they wish?
And last, it’s Russia we are talking about, country of Stalin and his follower Putin.
Kaczynski was a brilliant men who wasn’t afraid of saying the truth and as we know he was against putinism. Also when politics die it’s already sounds weird and especially when they die in different country. Since Russia has a power scuttling radio transmissions what is the chance that they didn’t use it?