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Bratwurst Boy   
4 Apr 2007
History / Poles and Russians -- love-hate relationship? [209]

"It was in deep past, before Germans because of Semitic penetration into Europe were exracted from Slavs, as unique ethos (Teutons). With time, they assimilated more and more Slavs- original native European population. Then, they (and many others) spraed and start to stealing Slavic history in the same time. But, they abondened our heritage and accepted newcoming Semitic ideological constructions."

:)

Quote:

"The Germans, and other people who lived in what is now Germany and Eastern Europe, were Indo-Europeans, originally from the area between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea. Sometime between 3000 BC and 2000 BC, they had migrated gradually, in many different waves, out of that area and all across Europe.

Some ended up north of Europe, in Scandinavia (modern Norway, Sweden and Denmark). These are the ancestors of modern Swedes, Norwegians, and Danes. Some went to Poland, where they developed into the Visigoths and the Ostrogoths.

Some ended up in Germany, where they are the ancestors of the modern Germans, but also of the Franks, Vandals, and Sueves.

After the fall of the Roman Empire, the Visigoths moved into Spain, and the Ostrogoths moved into Italy. The Franks moved into France, but soon conquered Germany as well, so that by 800 AD Charlemagne was able to establish a German Holy Roman Empire that extended over France, Germany, and much of central Italy. After Charlemagne died, his sons split his empire into three parts so they could each have some, but it was the branch of the family who got Germany who continued to call themselves the Holy Roman Emperors. "

....and so on!

PS: The natives of Europe were the Celts who got conquered and ejected by the germanic tribes, NOT the slaves!

:)
Bratwurst Boy   
10 Jun 2007
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]

Modern German Jugendamt, successor of old German Lebensborn

I wish...but sadly...to PC...even if we could need another Lebensborn! The idea was good....

Some family ideas in the third Reich were useful like support of families with children...rewarding mom's who decide to be moms for their children...many children etc...
Bratwurst Boy   
10 Jun 2007
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]

We have laws in Germany where is defined who is the legal guardian of the child in case the parents divorce.
That is different from case to case and most are regulated and decided peacefully.
Those laws apply to german pairs the same way like to mixed pairs.
And in the case of if one of the parents has not the german citizenship there are in the most cases international treaties which Germany has subscribed to.

Difficulties develop often if the country of the foreign parent had NOT subscribed to any treaties regarding guardianship (is Poland one of those?)...

What exactly will Brussel do about it?

PS: We have big problems with children of mixed background who don't speak one word german when they start school...imagine the problems these children face....
Bratwurst Boy   
10 Jun 2007
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]

In short ,medals allround for breeding little stormtroopers......

Nope...just more money for families with children...more places in kindergartens ...more support for one-parent families...
(more little stormtroopers will follow automatically) :)

First steps are already done to help families more!

For the Islamists...they better don't try our patience to much...
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Jul 2007
Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [208]

They always say: Kopernikus!

Even as he was from a german family (his real name was: Nikolas Koppernigk), was born in Thorn which was till few years before still prussian, lived and worked in Frauenburg and spoke and wrote german...noooooooooo he is now polish (say Poles)....
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Jul 2007
Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [208]

Family Kopernigg belonged to the privileged citizenship of the Hansetown Thorn and lived there in the St. Annen alley.
The father was a rich government clerk (prussian)
His uncle was Lukas Watzenrode the younger, the prince-bishop from Ermland.

It's a german family from Prussia...and they spoke and wrote German!

Kopernikus not only was an astronomer but doctor too and he worked also for the government. He reformed together with the Hochmeister of the german Order Albrecht von Hohenzollern the prussian coinage.

Kopernikus penned his scientific works in latin and german but not polish!

His friends were the Bishop Tiedemann, Nikolaus Cardinal von Schönberg and Johannes Dantiscus von Höfen.

PS: Maybe you should read some more books?

PPS: Am I a Nazi prick because I have another opinion?

PPPS: Here is lot's of info about Kopernikus...oops it's not in english.....doesn't count?

You are not an advertising for canuck schools!
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Jul 2007
Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [208]

I really don't know if people born in other countries should count too...

If yes we Germans wouldn't even know where to start...alone in the US 1/4 of the people have german heritage (also the scientists, artists, musicians etc.)....and not only in the US.

"Fred Astaire, Lauren Bacall, William Boeing, Sandra Bullock, Walter P. Chrysler, Leonardo DiCaprio, Kirsten Dunst, Albert Einstein, Dwight D. Eisenhower, George Armstrong Custer, Babe Ruth, Clark Gable, Milton Hershey, Charles M. Schulz ("Peanuts"), Joseph Pulitzer, John Steinbeck, Chester W. Nimitz, F.W. von Steuben, Elvis Presley, Heinrich Steinway, John D. Rockefeller, Levi Strauss, John Studebaker, Herbert Hoover, Henry Kissinger, Jerry Springer, Ruth Westheimer, J. Robert Oppenheimer, Billy Wilder, Bruce Willis, Johnny Weissmuller and, and, and...."

We should therefore confine it to the fatherlands I think....
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Jul 2007
Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [208]

*waves to his girl* :)

Ahem...*puts on teachers hat*....

Also....a winemaker (vintner) named Johann Valentin Pressler came 1710 to New York from Niederhochstadt in the southern Palatine (till today there are living lot's of Presslers). This village is today called Hochstadt...the same like the village in Pennsylvania which the Pressler-Clan founded new.

A later Pressler, who took part in the battle at Gettysburg changed the name to "Presley"...

*throws away teachers hat and bows*

serve.com/shea/germusa/germusa.htm
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2007
Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [208]

Billy Wilder polish??? Yup....you are mad!

usa.usembassy.de/etexts/ga-tricentennialreport.htm

"... From music have come - beside the piano- and organ-makers, Steinway, Knabe, and Wurlitzer -- Leopold and Walter Damrosch, Bruno Walter, John Philip Sousa, Oscar Hammerstein, Paul Hindemith, Arnold Schoenberg, and Kurt Weill. And from the theatre a succession of gifted playwrights, directors and performers, among them Bertolt Brecht, Ernst Lubitsch, Eric von Stroheim, Fritz Lang, Otto Preminger, Billy Wilder, and the inimitable Marlene Dietrich...."

The source is the US themselves...and yours is???

Now for that....:)

The first armored car robbery was done by a polish man

But I thought people born in other countries don't count???
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2007
Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [208]

Born Samuel Wilder in Sucha Beskidzka, Austria-Hungary (now Poland) hes ours now dick head

Yeah...like Kopernikus...doesn't matter if the family is german/austrian...if their native language is german...who cares....the borders changed (even much later) that means those are now full blooded Poles even if they don't speak one word polish or have any relation to Poland who gives a f*ck...yeah sure!

If you ask Billy Wilder do you reall think he would had seen himself as a Pole???

Do you have an idea how pathetic you sound...needing to resort to "people grabbing" because you lack your own???

Bye
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Dec 2007
Genealogy / Need help with family history/surnames: Netzel, Petke, Gruzlewski [24]

Try to find out the confession of these people.
Then try to contact the church in this town...with luck the old "Kirchenbücher" are still existent. Every birth, marriage, and death of the members is there noted.

Later the Rathaus overtook much of that duties.

There are lists online where genealogists gather. Many are specialized
for several territories and towns. There you can find support and even help
for translation...

Good luck!
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Dec 2007
Genealogy / Need help with family history/surnames: Netzel, Petke, Gruzlewski [24]

Erm....where is Lipno?

This is a list for Oberschlesien for example:

list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oberschlesien-l

and Niederschlesien:

list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/niederschlesien-l

How is your German?

Here is a good start in English to find out about your german roots:

genealogy.net/index_en.html

list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo

biggislist.de

:)
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Dec 2007
Genealogy / Need help with family history/surnames: Netzel, Petke, Gruzlewski [24]

Wow...thank you Softsong...I've heard about the Dobriner Land.

And here is a mailinglist for the Dobriner Land:

list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/dobriner-land-l

(also in English)

RaymondPeter, the best way to start now is with a Suchmeldung...give the names, the towns and some dates as far as you can.

dobriner-land.de

And here you have the adresses of some Churches and Standesämter...ask them.

Good Luck
Bratwurst Boy   
26 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

"Jewishness" is not about religion, this is ethnic origin

I wonder about that...

What about converts? You can't convert to another ethnie!
You find white Jews, brown Jews, slavic Jews, germanic Jews, even black Jews....

I think they are a Religion, not an ethnie!

And that the Nazis opressed them as a race....well...you won't believe everything the Nazis told, won't you?
Bratwurst Boy   
27 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

I wouldn't show off the Bible if you want something to prove scientifically!
Is there more "real" stuff you can tell us?
What about the genetic comparison to the arabs in the ME?
(And how can it be that you all stem from one man...did his children made incest?) A real question here...

Don't get me wrong....it's all well when we talk about religion only (Adam and Eve etc).
But an ethnic history is something else alltogether....you shouldn't mix it!

Right now you are still a religion only in my mind....with a belief shared first with many people in a certain place in a certain time.

The same with the paganism in northern/central Europe before Christianity got imported.
Just sharing the same beliefs didn't made them a race! (And sharing christian beliefs or having a christian mother doesn't make one of a "christian race")
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Dec 2007
Life / What's wrong with you, Polish people - is it an inferiority complex? [123]

Most Poles today in the UK and in Ireland are just day laborers who are not permanent residents. They're just filling a job void in those countries and making a buck - and then returning to Poland.

Erm....there must be millions of now Germans with polish roots who came for work and stayed!

MILLIONS!

Just an example:

"...Polish immigration to Germany

For the rising Ruhr district it became scarcely with good workers in the middle of 19th century . As part of the Kingdom of Prussia, it had become within short time a supplying pole, along with the beginning of industrialization at 1840. There was enough coal, which was there to the dismantling, also metals was manufactured. Therefore people looked for a solution. Chiefs recruited starting from 1870 purposefully in East Germany, but mainly in Poland, workers who were ready, to leave their homeland for a good money. They were allowed to carry their family with them, partly those were also simply enterprising loners.

They came from all parts of Poland, among other things "Masuren". As a Slavic people with Slavic culture and language they left traces in the entire Ruhr Area until today, some went back again, but most remained. Many people in Ruhr Area have Polish ancestors, often also Polish surnames. ..."

Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2008
USA, Canada / Do many Polish people in America hate Americans? [592]

but.. it is still the best country in the world, isn't it? So, maybe they do have a point?

Germany is better...not as much violence, not as much crimes, not as much poor (even our poor live better than the US poor)....Germany is not as split into the very rich and the very poor than the US (not yet anyway).

Germany is more orderly!
We care for our sick and poor better...better and more rights for the workers (till now anyway)

I know America a bit (traveling) and I say it's a great country for holiday...but I as a German
prefer the more reserved (because more honest) attitude of the Germans...(but worst are the Italians...all that arm waving and screaming whilst talking...)

Poles are divaded it case ;-) ask Germans or French :-) they will tell you :-)

So no, it's not the best country in the world!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2008
USA, Canada / Do many Polish people in America hate Americans? [592]

I found this article about Germany and anti-Americanism. Truth or..?

Anti-Americanism is a trademark of the left/liberal...and since the 68'er students revolutions West Germany is firmly a leftist country...that's changing though (and the Eastern part never was that leftist/anti-american to begin with for obvious reasons)!
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Feb 2008
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [867]

*snif*

*wail*


Wait...why don't you direct your hate to the Brit's, the French and the US???
Germany was never Polands friend...we never broke a treaty or a promise to you...quite to the contrary to your "friends"....
And anyway...there is more than just the past.
In a recent Poll they asked the Germans whom of their neighbours they liked most...now guess where Poland ended...yup...way down at the bottom!

It's more a dog/cat case here...just to different...if it weren't the war then it would be something else!

C'est la vie! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Feb 2008
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [867]

Germany unilaterally broke the German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact, signed for a period of 10 years in 1934.

Umm...that was Hitler...wasn't it?
Well then we weren't that good with treaties...just ask the Russians...
What rather supports my point!

You surely won't compare a Hitler treaty with a GB treaty or a French treaty to come immediately to your help, won't you?

Not to mention that the US troops made it barely to the Elbe...totally disinterested in the fate of you Poles! Hugging Uncle Joe instead...

But still...you love them!

now you're talking.. one needs to start with the krauts trying to convert us to Christianity, the tutons and so on and on and on .. and on...

What was so bad with this one? You are the most fervent Christians now in Europe!
Imagine...no polish pope..without us "tutons"...:)
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Feb 2008
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [867]

And?

Who's got a problem with that?

Bratwurst, I hope to God that there will be a continued animosity of Germans toward Poles, for if there ever comes a need for war, I would not even hesitate a moment. . .

Hehe...reminds me about the polish loudmouths before '39..."In one week in Berlin!"
Polish overestimation...like always!

:)

treaty is a treaty, no? Brits, French did break theirs too but at least they didn't try to kill us all like you folks did.

I would have thought a betrayal by a friend is much worse...
But then...nobody respects a honest enemy anymore...*shakes head sadly*

PS: Hitler was German born in Austria....these borders...always changing...but then you as a Pole know about that, don't you?
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Feb 2008
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [867]

Hey...it isn't me who can't stop talking about the war....*looks innocently*

It's always the war here...the war there...look I have a pimple, remember the war? The bananas haven't been fresh this morning, remember the war? My..my new shoes hurt, remember the war???

And on, and on, and on, and on....*yawn*
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Feb 2008
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [867]

sure, sure.. just like copenik and other people you want to call your own.. foking thieving nations..

Hmmm...just a question...which ethnicity Hitler belonged to if not german???

*waits eagerly for plk's wisdom*
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Feb 2008
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [867]

Yeah, I'm kind of surprised that BBoy never tries to "invade" his Eastern Germany brothers..why don't you direct your energy there? I heard on the radio, that west Germany is ashamed of their eastern brothers...start 'fixing' them. Will you? In the mean time they should be a perfect, border cushion. hehehehe.

Hmmm...Eurola...dishing out but can't take it?

:)

Come back you German coward. I want to have a discussion with you about Polish-German relations

Jawohl! *salutes*

I would ride through the gates of hell to protect my motherland from your fatherland ( : Remember that, Bratwurst, there are many out there that feel the same..

Umm...I don't deny that...ride along...:)
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Feb 2008
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [867]

Where do you see Poland and Germany, oh lets say, 10 years from now? You spoke of anti-Polish sentiment in Germany? Is this evident through the media too? Are civilians scared of Polish "barbarians" who come to Germany and cause trouble? What is causing so much hatred, in Ihrer gebildeten Meinung. Informieren Sie mich bitte, wie Sie fühle. Danke. *Salutes* An der Mühelosigkeit!

I actually envision a good relationship between us (once Poland let's go of old grudges).

Germany is a trader...we build and develop to sell things so we need peaceful, wealthy neighbours who have actually the money to buy our stuff.

That way everybody get's happy and nobody needs to invade anybody for that.

Must go now...my girl is already tapping her dainty foot impatiently....sorry :(
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Feb 2008
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [867]

Aww! Aber wir hatten gerade angefangen!

May I compliment you on your perfect german!

Hmmm, you never really responded to my post...did you? So, how is the relationship between the eastern and western "brothers'?

Actually your motives are really clear and a bit hypocritical...or what was it about not "belittling" someone?

And since the german head of state is an Ossi and even the captain of our beloved football team is an Ossi your argument is really weak!

(These are the most important positions a German can actually reach in his life!)