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Joined: 23 Feb 2010 / Male ♂
Last Post: 11 Aug 2015
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Satyanam   
11 Aug 2015
Law / Applying for a PIO card (Person Of Indian Origin) at the Indian Embassy in Warsaw [11]

Hi Marysia, so very sorry it has been a long long time I have come back to the forums. The "extra documents " needed by the indian embassy staff can be anything that they wish to pull out of their hat, the morning that you arrive at the Embassy.

It all depends upon your attitude: say if you arrive at the hole in the wall Indian embassy thinking that the staff should be polite, responsive, empathetic, etc etc you got it all wrong. Truly what You need, is an attitude where you can show that you can grovel, bend forwards and backwards many times to a clerk or petty official of the Indian Government, ( who got this position in an Embassy after brown nosing and licking many shoe soles, and many more sifarish and grovels ) call him or her sahib, huzoor, sarkar, etc etc then you have a slight chance of getting your PIO in one attempt. You see, the Indian officials are well and truly indoctrinated in a system of corruption, inefficiency, neglect, and the motto Sarkari Naukri. ( means one cant get thrown out, unless you have committed a criminal offence ) left by the Brits. The bureaucractic system is like a cancer, can't be treated, can't be rooted out, one just has to learn to live with it. Good luck
Satyanam   
22 Jan 2013
Law / Applying for a PIO card (Person Of Indian Origin) at the Indian Embassy in Warsaw [11]

I would rather deal with a bot or robot, than not having the option of dealing with any one at all :-)
The phone line for the Consular services at the Indian Embassy in Warsaw is for ever UNANSWERED !
I wonder why do they have a phone line at all !!

I however feel sorry for people dealing with the NY consulate :-(
Satyanam   
21 Jan 2013
Law / Applying for a PIO card (Person Of Indian Origin) at the Indian Embassy in Warsaw [11]

So what is a PIO card you may ask ?

Well, PIO card means that you are a Person Of Indian Origin. A PIO (Person of Indian Origin) Card allows visa free travel and gives several benefits to the card holder.

A little bit more about this, taken from a leading website.

A "Person of Indian Origin" means a foreign citizen not being a citizen of Bangladesh, Pakistan or other countries as may be specified by the Central Government from time to time if;

1. he/she at any time held a Indian passport; or

2. he/she or either of his/her parents or grandparents or great grandparents was born in and was a permanent resident in India as defined in the Government of India Act, 1935 and other territories that became part of India thereafter provided neither was at any time citizens of any of the aforesaid countries (as referred above) ; or

3. he/she is a spouse of a citizen of India or a person of Indian origin covered under (i) or (ii) above.

So I live in Poznan, and my wife is a Polish citizen, therefore I decided to apply for a PIO card for her, and that is when I began to fully understand the complexities and hurdles thrown in my way while dealing with the officials at the Indian Embassy in Warsaw ( God Bless them All )

This post is intended to warn all of you out there who are contemplating taking this path.

Be warned that the Official information regarding the list of documentary evidence listed currently on the Embassy website is not up to scratch, as when one finally turns up for submission of documents, the officials at the Embassy ( God Bless them ) pull out a completely different list of documentary evidence, and demand for evidence such as ; joint photograph of you and your wife / husband ( surprise) and whatever.

My initial reaction to this was of dismay and confrontation with the Embassy officials, and when i queried as to why the documentation list is different from the one that they require, I was given a typical Indian bureaucracy answer that the information contained on the official web-site is ascertained by someone sitting in India ! WOW !

The time frame for delivery of the PIO card was supposed to be 2-3 weeks from the date of submission, ----- and guess how many days it actually took for it to be delivered ?

2 months and at least 15 phone calls, with reminders and many polite requests thrown in. Disgusting to note that despite the heavy documentation fees the speed of processing and delivery does not match up .

Lastly a note on final delivery of documentation: There is no indication on the web site or a reference by the officials in the Indian Embassy that they will not dispatch the documents to you, as they ASSUME (MAKE an ass of you and me ) that every one applying for Embassy/ Consular services lives within spitting distance from the Embassy and is free most of the days in the week to personally come and collect documents ( I was amused with a heart burn when a Polish chap who works for the Embassy said with some irony in his voice that the Embassy prefers to deal with people physically, rather than emails or phone calls, AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LIVING IN THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY !!! )

To sum it up, if you ever have the misfortune to deal with the hole in the wall so called Embassy of India where one can't even be offered a cup of Masala Chai or smell the perfume of incense, or even be shown the toilets when you are bursting to go, then please be prepared for a Karmic penitence, as the only thing that will save you is Ram Ram Ram Hari Ram Siya Ram ( this mantra needs to be chanted a thousand fold times to avoid a severe heart burn, agonizing wait, a swollen urinary bladder and completely unbridled temper )

I HOPE SOMEBODY FROM THE EMBASSY READS THIS INFORMATION :

THIS IS WRITTEN FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN POLAND IT IS WRITTEN FOR THE GENERAL GOOD, I CORDIALLY INVITE THEM( THE EMBASSY STAFF) FOR A HEARTY INDIAN MEAL, AND RECOUNT MY EXPERIENCES IN GRAPHIC DETAIL. MY HOME IS POZNAN :-) WELCOME AND ENJOY TRUE INDIAN HOSPITALITY !

UNLIKE THE INDIAN EMBASSY WHERE EMAILS SENT ARE NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED BY A BOT PROGRAM, I REPLY TO ALL EMAILS AND IF YOU HAVE ANY ADVENTURES WITH THE INDIAN EMBASSY PLEASE CARRY THIS THREAD FORWARD FOR THE NOTICE OF THE CURRENT AMBASSADOR, WHO KNOWS YOU MAY BE INVITED TO A CUP OF MASALA CHAI AND SOME CURRY, RICE AND A SONG !

JAI HIND AND BHARAT MATA KI JAIJAI HIND AND BHARAT MATA KI JAI
Satyanam   
20 Dec 2010
Law / Buying a USED CAR in Poland, my personal experiences and TRAPS to avoid !! [112]

that is awesome, i had a belly full of laugh on that superb title good on ya mate !

also called capital of metaloplastyka masters ;)

Please note however some smart guys tell you that the windscreen had been changed due to stone damage ! all the other points of technicality you mentioned are worthwhile keeping in mind.

thanks peter
Satyanam   
20 Dec 2010
Law / Buying a USED CAR in Poland, my personal experiences and TRAPS to avoid !! [112]

Dear friends, buying a used car in Poland is full of traps and deceptions. It's not a straightforward process as in Australia or elsewhere. Since i come from Australia, i had the most harrowing experiences ever in my life, regarding buying a USED CAR !

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN, THERE IS NO CONSUMER PROTECTION AGAINST THE SHARKS SELLING YOU LEMONS FOR THE PRICE OF TRUFFLES ! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED ! ( In Australia, we have a mandatory 10 day cooling off period to any contract or purchase of this sort, which means that the customer is protected against fraud in case the car is not what is advertised !! can any used car dealer in Poland come up with something like this ?? NO WAY I SUPPOSE )

My ordeal with buying cars started 2 months ago ! and only yesterday after several visits to the used car yards called AUTO KOMIS i finally found something that i could spend my money on.

I was given several helpful hints by my Polish colleagues and the most important advice that came through was " TRUST NO ONE " not even the so called authorised car dealers selling used cars in their showrooms.

There are several used car web sites, and since i am not going to advertise for them, you just have to look around.
Here are some of my observations that you need to keep in mind when dealing with the used car salesmen when inquiring over the phone.

If the car you are looking for is advertised as ACCIDENT FREE< WITH ASO PAPERS OF REGULAR SERVICE> FIRST OWNER

Then ask before you go to the car yard the following hard questions, this will save you tremendous amount of frustration, time and money.

1. If the car has been resprayed for cosmetic purposes anywhere ?

2. If the car has been re-lacquered any where ?

3. Does the dealer have a paint thickness sensor ( called a Dczujnik) for testing the car panels, all over ? this is important, as some of these operators will not let you test the car, or will say that the sensor is not working, or the sensor has been misplaced, or the sensor is low on battery, or they simply act as if they dont anything about this device. If they make any of these excuses then simply walk away, as that car is nothing but a cut and paste job. My research shows that 60% of the cars at Gniezno (nest of liars) were damaged and patched up in Poland. These cars are often flogged off as new !

This is very important as i have been to several authorised car dealers( Heaven Sake who can you trust ?) who advertised the cars as accident free, but on closer inspection it came out that the cars had been resprayed for whatever reason. My verdict if you want a car worth your money then be THOROUGH ! and ask for the paint sensor. The range in microns for metallic paint should read between 90 -- 120 if the reading is anymore than this then the car is repainted.

4. If the car is advertised as having service papers ask them to take a picture of the service book and email it to you, if they are genuine sellers then they will comply. Be careful, very careful as some of the service books are stamped, but the stamps do not carry the name or telephone number of the servicing agent. Make sure all the stamps look similar. Tell them you will call the service station to check, take down the VIN number and give the service agents a call. Even if you are calling someone in Germany, it is still worth the call to find out whether the car is on their service database. Some dealers in Gniezno were furious that i was asking too many questions !! I too gave them a 2 finger salute and walked off ! If you are going to part with your hard earned cash then dont forget that CUSTOMER IS THE KING !

Used car dealers in Poland need special praise for their hoodwinking skills, in one particular case i travelled to Gniezno in freezing cold only to find that the car that was advertised was still in France !! Christ-sake ! they said that they were so sure that the car would be here today that they could not resist putting the ad on the web-site.

Ask any Pole, and they will tell that you winding the clock back on the odometer( a severely punishable illegal activity in Australia) is a common practice with used cars. On an average a car will not chock up any more than 22000 kms per year ! so if the mileage is somewhere near that mark then its fine. Take a trip to Gniezno( den of scammers) and you will find that most cars are very doubtful for their age. I did some further research into this and discovered that changing the kilometers on a digital odometer was easier than the old fashioned analog displays. Apparently there is special software that can do it in a matter of minutes !! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !

In conclusion, do not buy the car on your very first date of inspection. There are CARS and many more CARS ! Take your time and decide. Most importantly take the car for a test drive, check the gear shift, press the clutch and check if there is any change in the engine noise, or feedback in the pedal, wear thin soled shoes to do this. If buying a diesel, check the whine for the turbine, if you hear a high pitched sound the turbine is on the way out ! It can cost upto 2000 zloty to get it fixed, and it can only be done properly from an authorised service station ( i have had 2 bad experiences with this problem)

The last word--- do not hesitate to knock back the price by at least 2K !! i have had encounters where the car was advertised for 35,000, and the dealers were keen to flog it off for 30,0000 after some negotiation.

I finally found a car after 2 grueling months, a rare occasion i must say. The car had all the papers, the service station was genuine, and everything checked out with the odometer reading as they are recorded in the service station each time the car goes in for service. Please wish me luck with the reliability of this car. Please do not hesitate to ask questions if you have any for i do not wish anyone to get their fingers burnt. I am 52 and have bought at least 6 cars in my life and i thought i knew a lot about the used car business, however the Polish market taught me many new things and scams to avoid. i certainly could write a book about it :-)

Good luck with your purchase and remember i am here to help. Cheers.