Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Regarding Polish, I think what makes it, at the very least, seem horrendously difficult is the mountain you need to climb in the beginning. That's Polish in a nutshell. Polish gets easier and easier for me every day because I hit the books hard during my first year to learn the seemingly impossible case system. For most people, they never accomplish that.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

s_darius wrote:


3 to 5? no way.

I go.

I'm going.

I went.

I was going.

I have gone.

I've been going.

I will go.

I will be going.

I had gone.

There's 9, and I don't think an average day has gone by in my adult life not using all 9 of those.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

z_darius wrote:


Me? Avg. education. And of course I go beyond 9. I simply stated the basic ones to show that 3-5 is an awfully inaccurate estimation.

z_darius wrote:


I couldn't agree more, but there are several people on this forum that won't agree with that statement.

z_darius wrote:


you're dead on with that.


why? how is it less complex than Irish English, Scottish English, Australian English...?

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]

soooooooo glad America keeps their borders tight.....

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

you can, however, count radios.

5 radios anyone?

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]

say what you want, Poland was doomed no matter who they shook hands with/could have shaken hands with.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

what a completely absurd and pointless argument you all are having.


call it what you want. i call it inefficient.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Seanus wrote:


pies is a masculine word, hence "ten pies", but when using a verb to refer to more than one in the past, it is in the feminine form, but still a masculine noun technically. for example, "podobaly mi sie te filmy". film is masculine, but you don't use a masculine form.

Gregrog wrote:


dzis, przyjechali dwoch mezczyzn.

Delphiandomine wrote:


funny you should mention.....are you ready to answer my questions now Delph?

EVERYBODY has seen that you ducked them all.....again. You must have them memorized by now, along with the rest of the forum pappy, but here we go, round and round.

Dear Ole' Delphiandomine, I would like to know, because you love to talk about who's qualified to have what job, or talk about certain subjects, etc. etc., please tell me, for the umpteenth time:

Where were you born?
How long have you been in Poland?
Do you have any Polish blood?
What is your nationality?
What is your native language?

when you answer these questions, maybe i'll consider commenting on your constant assumptions about how qualified or not I am.

COME CLEAN my dear.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Seanus wrote:


if you're aware of it, why did you write it. oh, I almost forgot, I'm not qualified enough to comment on Polish. I'll let someone more qualified I guess point out your mistakes.

Seanus wrote:


i simply don't know what you mean. do you know a better way of saying it?

Ironside wrote:


don't you think it's a little strange Ironside, hell, this question goes out to everyone, that Delph refuses to answer these questions EVERY SINGLE TIME? And Ironside, you're the second guy that tried answering the questions FOR him because Delph refused to. After he wrote all that nonsense to me last night and I challenged him right back, with THE SAME CHALLENGE I'VE BEEN GIVING HIM FOR MONTHS, as always.......crickets. It's not being "obsessed", it's simply having someone mud slinging your posts, and when I try for a rebuttal, mind you the most basic, simplistic questions you could imagine, he ignores it. Every time. At this point, I'm amazed other posters haven't asked him to answer the questions, just to get it over with.

He loves to dish it out but when the table is turned, he runs away with his tail between his legs. What a Nancy.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Seanus wrote:


then your post was misleading, at least to me.

Seanus wrote:


Was it? your comment to my correction was "It isn't przyjechali though, is it?" Maybe I just don't get your humor. Like I asked the first time, what did you mean by that?

Either way, I don't care. for the record, I'm not one to play grammar police. it's generally arrogant and petty and often times sidetracks the conversation. Look through any of my posts....I don't do it.

After all, we already have a certain someone on this forum that does enough of that for everybody ;)

I was simply using Gregrog and you to bolster my post because I knew how excited Delph would be to see that I am, at the very least, moderately qualified to comment on Polish ;)

The more that guy comments on my posts and makes these blind assumptions, the sillier he looks.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

Delphiandomine wrote:


you don't get it because you don't know what you're talking (whining) about.

Waitstaff in America are on a different pay-scale. if you have a regular job, yes, there's a minimum wage, but waitstaff and bartenders are an exception. when I was bartending about 8 years ago, the waitstaff earned $2.15/hour, in the NYC area. The current pay rate in America is still under $3/hour for waitstaff/bartenders. Sure, some places pay a little more if they have someone that's been there a long time or if the bartender gets little traffic at the bar but does a lot of service bar work (meaning making drinks for all customers in the restaurant, they generally pay more because he/she wouldn't make as much in tips) but the restaurant is not obligated to pay any more than that measly sub $3/hour pay rate. THIS is why waitstaff and bartenders alike demand tips, because without it, after working an 8 hour shift and getting home at 4:00 a.m. they'd be earning about $20.....before taxes.

but it's ok Delph. If you had lived in America for a while, you'd know these kinds of things. I guess not everyone has the luxury of speaking from experience.

beelzebub wrote:


exactly. just like all us English teachers out here not reporting any of our private lesson income, proofreading cash, translations, etc. etc.

I bartended for years at several restaurants, and my job went like this: I get paid a small hourly rate and I keep ALL my tips. Most of it was in cash, and the bills that were charged, the customer would write on the receipt how much the tip was. At the end of the night, I simply took that tip money in cash from the register at night. That is what I was instructed to do by my bosses, and that's why I did. I walked home with hundreds of dollars in a single night in greenbacks, and paid taxes only on my tiny hourly wage every two weeks. The waitstaff operated in the same way.

And that's how most restaurants operate with tips in America.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Seanus wrote:


Because we're having this conversation, i'll correct it.

krzesla is the plural form of krzeslo, which is a neutral noun. hence, dwa krzesla.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

no probs.

from one man to another, i'd like to ask you some questions about your Polish classes.

I've never taken an actual course, just studying on my own, conversation with my fiance/friends, language exchanges, constant reading, etc.....but never a structured course at a school.

what's it like? how are lessons structured? how large is your class? is it done differently than typical English classes?

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


J-walking is illegal too, but I've never gotten caught doing it.

laws shmaws. there are lots of laws convex. countless times I would work a shift and everyone would belly up to the bar to eat and drink while the waitress sat on her hands for the night, resulting in her literally going home earning maybe $12-$14, far below min. wage.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

convex wrote:


Tips, hands down, for both bartenders and waitstaff. Sure, if you get a job at a lamo restaurant with no traffic, getting paid a decent wage is better, but I simply never worked at such a place. I made my bones for the first year and then went to where the money was.

I knew bartenders in busy NJ clubs or, of course, NYC clubs, that would clear $1500 in cash just working Thursday/Friday/Saturday nights. Sure, during the off seasons they'd pull maybe $700-$900, but that's still above the national avg. salary.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

olaf wrote:


no it wasn't. maybe try and read page 3 of this thread, most of the conversation moved to the tipping policies/habits in America. i wasn't even part of the conversation at that point. i decided to chime in because it was an area I'm familiar with.

i'm also familiar with tipping in Poland. the waitstaff makes a pittance, and bartenders generally get goose egged nearly every time.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]


it's phenomenal alright!

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Lyzko wrote:


dwa stoly.

Lyzko wrote:


correct. dwie ksiazki.

shame you didn't respond Delphiandomine to yesterday's conversation. I see you posted several times on other threads.....but conveniently ignored this one. we're all so disappointed.

Nancy.

that's right. you're a Nancy. like the purple ice cream cone holding, flower print skirt wearing, pedicure/manicure kind.

Nancy.

Work / What Jobs are there in Poland for an Englishman besides teaching english? [70]

so has anyone lately found some work earning decent cash, exluding English teaching jobs?

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

3200 PLN after taxes?

no way.

i know people in the 27-35 year old range, master's degree, and they're landing jobs that pay 2000 net. considering what teachers, police officers, construction workers, shop keepers, waitstaff, bus/tram drivers, even what nurses earn in Poland........

imagine what the rest are making that do not live in a major city.

I know a teacher, master's degree, 29 years old, working in a town of 50,000 people, she takes home 1200 net a month.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

delphiandomine wrote:


i'd love to comment pappy, but I'm still waiting for you respond to you know what.

Work / What Jobs are there in Poland for an Englishman besides teaching english? [70]

July wrote:


Why?

I simply don't see how knowing Polish is all that lucrative as a foreigner. if you're here as a foreigner working for a company, you're probably already hooked up with salary, company car, hotel/apt., etc. Sure, learning the language is great, makes life easier, but it's generally not gonna put more money in your pocket. You're getting paid the salary you are because you are NOT Polish. Also, most of these people have contracts of 3 years max, and then they go back to their country and speak their native language again.

If I was from a non-English speaking country and I got transferred out here for a 1-3 year contract, I'd take English lessons over Polish lessons, and that is exactly what all the foreigners in Poland do when they aren't native English speakers. I know, because I teach them, and their reason for doing it is always the same.

Regarding expats, eliminate the English teachers and corporate transplants, and you're left with a negligent amount of people.

Your statement doesn't make sense.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Because it's you Landora.

here goes....I'll contribute.....just to set an example:

Delphiandomine wrote:



"not bad" you say. so if a family of 4 is taking home 4400zl while living in a major city, you think that's "doing ok"? Nice and comfy? More like lots of bread and Goracy Kubek with everyone stuffed inside a 45 sq. meter apt.

Livin' the dream Delph. Livin' the dream.

I swear, if Poland cheated on you Delph, burned your house down, put scorpions in your shoes and fire ants in your underwear, took everything you had after the divorce trial and wiped its a$$ with your favorite shirt, you'd still be begging her to come back.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Delphiandomine wrote:


oh you're right. definitely. i surely don't. what was i thinking. stellar observation.

Delphiandomine wrote:


right again! what was I thinking Delph, making my observations based on the testimonials of thousands of working class Poles from every profession imaginable here in Poland over the years. truly useless information. I should consider listening to you or some BS index or crap statistic off the internet.

I could go all day on your absurd posts, but as always, because you're my boy, I will of course have to mention that you avoided my questions again. It just cracks me up how you blatantly refuse to answer them. I knew you were hiding something from the beginning, but now you've essentially proved it to everyone. You really are a Nancy. What color skirt today, Delph? Maybe something with Polka dots?

At this point, I'm embarrassed for you.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

jonni wrote:


prices in Poland for basically everything excluding eggs and bread is pathetic. anything imported is out of reach for the avg. pole which means they're all stuck to products "Made In Poland" or driving a 10 year old imported car with the wheels falling off. And spare me the comment about how so many Poles are driving nice cars. Every country has people with money driving nice cars. For the most part, Poland is full of beaters.

real estate is the biggest joke of all.

i certainly was on topic, with the addition of "Delph, you're a Nancy for refusing to answer my questions and everybody knows it."

you've left me with no choice. i'll have to answer the questions for you.

Where were you born? outside of europe I'd say. if I were to guess, I'd say you've been moving for most of your life.

What is your native language? Not English. You don't have a native language because you've never been in a country long enough to truly develop one. When I first started reading your posts, they were full of simple mistakes, and recently seem to have gotten much better which leads me to believe more than one person types under the name "Delphiandomine".

Do you have Polish blood? Absolutely not. Not a drip. My guess? Asian.

Do you speak Polish? Poorly at best, which is why you never comment on Polish on this forum. No confidence to do so.

How long have you lived in Poland? At best, 18 months, another reason why you don't speak Polish well.

Because you've managed to avoid those questions for so long, I have now given the forum that set of data of which everyone will follow till you prove otherwise.

Lots of love, Delph.

-The Fuzz

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Delphiandomine wrote:


right, because the price of chicken is how you should gauge whether 4400zl a month is decent money or not. something like the incredibly inflated cost of apartments and houses in Poland, that's not worth mentioning. by the way, as far as I know, "chicken" would fall under my "Made in Poland" category. this is such a typical Delphiandomine statement. take one small thing and exploit it to make a point, no matter how insignificant or irrelevant it may be. bravo. well thought out response.

Delphiandomine wrote:


if that's so, then why hasn't anybody filled in the blanks? SO many forum members know you in person, yet nobody can answer any of my questions? ciekawe.

how about you just answer for yourself, Nancy.

for all those alleged "friends" of Delphiandomine, maybe you can give me some concrete answers to my questions to him? after all, he knows so many of you personally....

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Delphiandomine wrote:


if anyone, including the Moderator of this forum, is wondering why I continue to bust Delphiandomine's balls and demand for him to answer my notorious "questions" that he still continues to ignore, here is case and point. Yet again, blind assumptions about me, gross misinterpretations, and flat out inaccurate statements. borderline slandering. it stops me from having normal conversation on this forum.

he's a total disease.

Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

skysoulmate wrote:


of course they are. they're being constantly rewarded for doing a good job. there's a simple reka reke myje policy in America regarding restaurant/bar service. everyone understands it, everyone goes home happy.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Seanus wrote:


you also have wszedlem vs. weszlam, wyszedlem vs. wyszlam,etc.

"poszedlem" follows the pattern of maintaining the structure "szedl" in all forms.