FUZZYWICKETS
28 Aug 2013
News / More cars in Poland than America? [29]
nobody's arguing logistics here, just facts.
kinda off topic, patna'.
nobody's arguing logistics here, just facts.
kinda off topic, patna'.
FUZZYWICKETS
28 Aug 2013
News / More cars in Poland than America? [29]
i also find these statistics very hard to believe. as another mentioned about high school, of the 220 students in my class, i can't remember even one person that didn't get a car the minute they turned 17. in the US it's like a right of passage, you're practically issued a car once you're of age and unless you move to a big city and only need the subway, you own a car till you're dead and depend on it evey day. i'm almost hesitant to say "car" and not "vehicle" because so many people drive pickups and SUV's.
worth mentioning that in Poland it is very common for someone to not get their first car till they're in their twenties. a lot of them are in school till they're 23-24 and don't work during that time making car ownership near impossible unless mom and pop got the szmal.
i also find these statistics very hard to believe. as another mentioned about high school, of the 220 students in my class, i can't remember even one person that didn't get a car the minute they turned 17. in the US it's like a right of passage, you're practically issued a car once you're of age and unless you move to a big city and only need the subway, you own a car till you're dead and depend on it evey day. i'm almost hesitant to say "car" and not "vehicle" because so many people drive pickups and SUV's.
worth mentioning that in Poland it is very common for someone to not get their first car till they're in their twenties. a lot of them are in school till they're 23-24 and don't work during that time making car ownership near impossible unless mom and pop got the szmal.
FUZZYWICKETS
27 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]
everyoe seems to get this but you, jardinero.
i asked you to go back and read the post i responded to, you didn't, so i'm giving you a five cent response.
you are using $1,200/month, which is inaccurate. my family lives in NJ, one of the most expensive states in the USA, and my sister pays $800/month for an excellent facility. i didn't use Warsaw-like prices because it's not a fair depiction. you shot for the stars with $1,200. 99% of the USA pays far less than that.
Regardless of how you want to compare in the end, Poland is entirely more expensive in both respects. go to both countries, get an average paying job and then buy a 4 bedroom house, a new car, and then fill the gas tank and let me know then which country is more expensive. i'll save you the airfare for this experiment and just go ahead and let you know (especially if you were to start in PL and buy a ticket to the USA using Zloty) that Poland is more expensive.
i'm in PL now and am being reminded of this every day.
everyoe seems to get this but you, jardinero.
i asked you to go back and read the post i responded to, you didn't, so i'm giving you a five cent response.
you are using $1,200/month, which is inaccurate. my family lives in NJ, one of the most expensive states in the USA, and my sister pays $800/month for an excellent facility. i didn't use Warsaw-like prices because it's not a fair depiction. you shot for the stars with $1,200. 99% of the USA pays far less than that.
Regardless of how you want to compare in the end, Poland is entirely more expensive in both respects. go to both countries, get an average paying job and then buy a 4 bedroom house, a new car, and then fill the gas tank and let me know then which country is more expensive. i'll save you the airfare for this experiment and just go ahead and let you know (especially if you were to start in PL and buy a ticket to the USA using Zloty) that Poland is more expensive.
i'm in PL now and am being reminded of this every day.
FUZZYWICKETS
24 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]
to polforeigner:
i don't think anyone, expats included on PF, are claiming Poland is some land of plenty where ur handed a zloty tree at the airport. Rather, most of the expats on here put in there time and made their bones and are now leading quite comfortable lives. Certain comparisons though just can't be made.
to polforeigner:
i don't think anyone, expats included on PF, are claiming Poland is some land of plenty where ur handed a zloty tree at the airport. Rather, most of the expats on here put in there time and made their bones and are now leading quite comfortable lives. Certain comparisons though just can't be made.
FUZZYWICKETS
24 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]
you said 500-600, another said 400-600 and up to 2000zl in Warsaw....let's go with 600 for what I must assume is a respectable, clean, quality day care where everyone has their certifications and the place is fully insured.
you say 5-8X more in the USA compared to Poland? by the number, meaning 600, it's nearly identical.
you simply can't compare prices, man.
childcare and summer camp/activities costs for children, they can easily be 5-8x those in PL.
you said 500-600, another said 400-600 and up to 2000zl in Warsaw....let's go with 600 for what I must assume is a respectable, clean, quality day care where everyone has their certifications and the place is fully insured.
you say 5-8X more in the USA compared to Poland? by the number, meaning 600, it's nearly identical.
you simply can't compare prices, man.
FUZZYWICKETS
23 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]
Jardinero wrote:
no. less than half of $350,000, not PLN. go back and read the post i was responding to.
i grew up in NJ, i know all about property costs along the river and inside the city itself, which is why you don't live there unless you're very well to do. the smart bears move down south where real estate is cheap and winters are practically non-existant.
it's moot, but i have no idea what day care costs in Poland so i'll ask: what does it cost, per month, to bring your child to day care 5 days a week in a mid sized town in Poland?
Jardinero wrote:
You say PLN175k You say PLN175k for your fancy new house-where would that be? I
no. less than half of $350,000, not PLN. go back and read the post i was responding to.
i grew up in NJ, i know all about property costs along the river and inside the city itself, which is why you don't live there unless you're very well to do. the smart bears move down south where real estate is cheap and winters are practically non-existant.
True, no VAT, but we pay property and sales taxes instead (even on used cars)! If you care to look into things like childcare and summer camp/activities costs for children, they can easily be 5-8x those in PL.
it's moot, but i have no idea what day care costs in Poland so i'll ask: what does it cost, per month, to bring your child to day care 5 days a week in a mid sized town in Poland?
FUZZYWICKETS
22 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]
no, no, and no. i'll chime in here about the USA because it's on topic and refers to the OP.
the average salary in Poland is what.....without getting into an argument over what poll is accurate and what is not, let's just say it's 3,000PLN net. if you wanted to buy a brand new BMW in Poland, you're looking at spending years of your salary. if you work in the USA, you'd spend about 1 year of an average worker's salary for say a nicely equipped 328i.
you mentioned "homes" and you used 350,000. if a "home" runs you 350,000 PLN (hard to believe that would get you anything more than a small flat, that's about what my wife and I sold our 50sq. meter flat for in 2011. a friend of mine lived in a town home in Bielany, about 110sq. meters, 15 kilometers from the center of Wroclaw, and she said it was assessed at 600,000PLN in 2011) you're looking at many Many MANY years of salary to pay for it. My house in the USA, brand new construction, 300 sq. meters, property, driveway, Jacuzzi tub in the master bathroom, central air, 2 car garage, brick siding, community Olympic sized swimming pool, tennis courts.....less than half of your 350,000 number.
it's simply incorrect, bud. let's not even get into the fact that in the USA, there's no VAT. or the fact that gas is probably 3 times cheaper.
I am not standing on a soap box here saying the USA is the greatest place on earth, I'm simply responding to your post and saying that if you want to discuss cost of living, compared to Poland, it's a no contest.
2000PLN, 2000$ or 2000EUR, you still have to pay 1000PLN/1000$ or 1000EUR in rent somewhere and you will have still the same expensive just in a different currency.
no, no, and no. i'll chime in here about the USA because it's on topic and refers to the OP.
the average salary in Poland is what.....without getting into an argument over what poll is accurate and what is not, let's just say it's 3,000PLN net. if you wanted to buy a brand new BMW in Poland, you're looking at spending years of your salary. if you work in the USA, you'd spend about 1 year of an average worker's salary for say a nicely equipped 328i.
you mentioned "homes" and you used 350,000. if a "home" runs you 350,000 PLN (hard to believe that would get you anything more than a small flat, that's about what my wife and I sold our 50sq. meter flat for in 2011. a friend of mine lived in a town home in Bielany, about 110sq. meters, 15 kilometers from the center of Wroclaw, and she said it was assessed at 600,000PLN in 2011) you're looking at many Many MANY years of salary to pay for it. My house in the USA, brand new construction, 300 sq. meters, property, driveway, Jacuzzi tub in the master bathroom, central air, 2 car garage, brick siding, community Olympic sized swimming pool, tennis courts.....less than half of your 350,000 number.
it's simply incorrect, bud. let's not even get into the fact that in the USA, there's no VAT. or the fact that gas is probably 3 times cheaper.
I am not standing on a soap box here saying the USA is the greatest place on earth, I'm simply responding to your post and saying that if you want to discuss cost of living, compared to Poland, it's a no contest.
FUZZYWICKETS
22 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]
agreed. if we're going to be entirely accurate, I should have said something like "over 99%" or something like that.
some others go to prison and come out catholic ;)
Polonius3 wrote:
I don't agree and provided my reasons as to why.
There are exceptional later-life converts.
agreed. if we're going to be entirely accurate, I should have said something like "over 99%" or something like that.
some others go to prison and come out catholic ;)
Polonius3 wrote:
It is a very accurate figure indicating the percentage of self-declared Catholics in Poland. Nothing more,nothing less.
I don't agree and provided my reasons as to why.
FUZZYWICKETS
22 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]
4 eigner wrote:
I mean, if we're going to have this discussion, it's gotta' maintain at least some level of accuracy.
EVERY catholic was forced to be Catholic. Do you remember the long talk you had with your parents when you were 6 weeks old, just before they baptized you, and they asked you what religion you were most interested in and why? That's right, because it never happened. It also didn't happen when you were 5 or 6 and received Communion. And how would it have gone if when you were 14 you told your parents, "yeah, you know what, I know that our entire family, extended family, friends, neighbors, co-workers....yeah pretty much everyone we know is catholic and has completed their sacraments, but after much thought, I think I'm done with this whole catholic thing, I'm just not going to do Confirmation....."
There's a reason why Saudis are not Catholic....because their parents didn't force them to be when they were young and didn't know any better. No, instead they forced them to take on another religion and to look at women as 3rd class citizens. 4th if we're counting the dog.
I mean.....if we're going to be accurate here.
This 92% I keep hearing is grossly inaccurate and you all know it. For most people that don't go to church anymore and have no attachment to the RCC at all, they're still going to check the "Catholic" box when asked what religion they are. It's that simple. They're not at the "Atheist" point, at least not yet, so when given the other choices, they're going to claim Catholic. Simples.
I guess what I'm saying is if you're not a full blown atheist or if at the very least you're not sure, you're going to put the check mark next to the religion you grew up with.
4 eigner wrote:
No one ever forced them to be Catholic and yet they are by their own choice.
I mean, if we're going to have this discussion, it's gotta' maintain at least some level of accuracy.
EVERY catholic was forced to be Catholic. Do you remember the long talk you had with your parents when you were 6 weeks old, just before they baptized you, and they asked you what religion you were most interested in and why? That's right, because it never happened. It also didn't happen when you were 5 or 6 and received Communion. And how would it have gone if when you were 14 you told your parents, "yeah, you know what, I know that our entire family, extended family, friends, neighbors, co-workers....yeah pretty much everyone we know is catholic and has completed their sacraments, but after much thought, I think I'm done with this whole catholic thing, I'm just not going to do Confirmation....."
There's a reason why Saudis are not Catholic....because their parents didn't force them to be when they were young and didn't know any better. No, instead they forced them to take on another religion and to look at women as 3rd class citizens. 4th if we're counting the dog.
I mean.....if we're going to be accurate here.
This 92% I keep hearing is grossly inaccurate and you all know it. For most people that don't go to church anymore and have no attachment to the RCC at all, they're still going to check the "Catholic" box when asked what religion they are. It's that simple. They're not at the "Atheist" point, at least not yet, so when given the other choices, they're going to claim Catholic. Simples.
I guess what I'm saying is if you're not a full blown atheist or if at the very least you're not sure, you're going to put the check mark next to the religion you grew up with.
FUZZYWICKETS
20 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]
OK, so that's a no.
I'm not banned (at least not that I know of) from any church. Am I then free to claim that I am Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, or anything else?
You're only Catholic if you say you are (it's the same with other religions too).
OK, so that's a no.
Again, as long as they're not officially banned from the church, it's their right to be what they want to be.
I'm not banned (at least not that I know of) from any church. Am I then free to claim that I am Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, or anything else?
FUZZYWICKETS
20 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]
I have done all sacraments including marriage in a Catholic church. I do not believe in Jesus, or any god for that matter. I do not claim there is no god because that's equal to insisting there in fact IS a god.
Am I Catholic?
We debated whether they are Catholics or not and I hope, we can now conclude that they are all Catholics as long as they're not banned from the church and freely declare themselves as such.
I have done all sacraments including marriage in a Catholic church. I do not believe in Jesus, or any god for that matter. I do not claim there is no god because that's equal to insisting there in fact IS a god.
Am I Catholic?
FUZZYWICKETS
20 Aug 2013
News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]
For the non-religious police officers in Poland, they probably don't care whether the crosses are up or not. If you don't believe, the cross has no significance anyhow. just like i don't care that the money in my pocket says, "In God We Trust." Start telling me that 10% of the money in my pocket needs to go to a man in a dress with a big cane and a funny hat who in turn will not pay taxes.....ever....I'd take issue.
The church problems exist when people push religious agendas onto non-believers AND believers alike. We all know there are many different levels of religiousness, some people still believe a man lived inside a whale and the talking snake and all that, others were simply baptized Catholic because they were 6 weeks old and didn't have a choice and today they believe maybe in "some" god, but whether it's a peasant jew with a beard and sandals or Zeus or Poseidon or whatever, they're not sure or don't care to recognize any personification of any kind with their god. Such believers are becoming more and more common and find the uber religious annoying and overbearing and sometimes a bit loony.
If you're a devout catholic, whether the crosses are there or not shouldn't make any difference. Your faith should be quite enough. Traditions are for the most part just old habits. They stemmed from somewhere, and before those traditions existed, there were different ones. 1,000 years ago, young Polish boys probably didn't splash water on young girls the day after easter. 1,000 years from today, Poles probably won't do that either. And the world will continue to turn, either way.
For the non-religious police officers in Poland, they probably don't care whether the crosses are up or not. If you don't believe, the cross has no significance anyhow. just like i don't care that the money in my pocket says, "In God We Trust." Start telling me that 10% of the money in my pocket needs to go to a man in a dress with a big cane and a funny hat who in turn will not pay taxes.....ever....I'd take issue.
The church problems exist when people push religious agendas onto non-believers AND believers alike. We all know there are many different levels of religiousness, some people still believe a man lived inside a whale and the talking snake and all that, others were simply baptized Catholic because they were 6 weeks old and didn't have a choice and today they believe maybe in "some" god, but whether it's a peasant jew with a beard and sandals or Zeus or Poseidon or whatever, they're not sure or don't care to recognize any personification of any kind with their god. Such believers are becoming more and more common and find the uber religious annoying and overbearing and sometimes a bit loony.
If you're a devout catholic, whether the crosses are there or not shouldn't make any difference. Your faith should be quite enough. Traditions are for the most part just old habits. They stemmed from somewhere, and before those traditions existed, there were different ones. 1,000 years ago, young Polish boys probably didn't splash water on young girls the day after easter. 1,000 years from today, Poles probably won't do that either. And the world will continue to turn, either way.
FUZZYWICKETS
20 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Looking for Polish beer in the United States [39]
you're right. in that case, just from the list above, you should at the very least avoid Harnas, Zubr, Warka, Okocim, Tatra, Piast.....I saw "Goolman" on the list? Is that Polish?
Why drink beer that tastes like moneky pee?
you're right. in that case, just from the list above, you should at the very least avoid Harnas, Zubr, Warka, Okocim, Tatra, Piast.....I saw "Goolman" on the list? Is that Polish?
FUZZYWICKETS
17 Aug 2013
Life / The Polish work ethic - or the lack of it [23]
Delph and I rarely agree on much, but I'm right with him on this one.
It's not an "areas of business thing", it's a Polish thing. coming from a totally different country with a totally different work ethic, I simply never understood it.
Christmas is 3 days (on the books) but extends to 5 or 6. Easter is 2 days (on the books) but geeze, how can anyone imagine working the day before the holiday or the day after the holiday for that matter....sick leave is unbelievable....a common cold lands you a week at home with a doctor's note and a prescription of antibiotics (for a virus? what?!) and people just randomly don't make it to work for whatever reason they conjure up.
on average, if you stick me in an office in Poland with 50 people for a year's worth of working, i'll be scratching my head week to week wondering why people can't seem to put in a full 5 day work week.
i could never be any sort of manager of people in Poland, I'd end up hurting a lot of people's feelings.
+1 Delph.
In your experience, is this common in other areas of business? I know that for me, there's absolutely no sense in trying to do anything on a Monday/Friday if the Tuesday/Thursday is a holiday.
Delph and I rarely agree on much, but I'm right with him on this one.
It's not an "areas of business thing", it's a Polish thing. coming from a totally different country with a totally different work ethic, I simply never understood it.
Christmas is 3 days (on the books) but extends to 5 or 6. Easter is 2 days (on the books) but geeze, how can anyone imagine working the day before the holiday or the day after the holiday for that matter....sick leave is unbelievable....a common cold lands you a week at home with a doctor's note and a prescription of antibiotics (for a virus? what?!) and people just randomly don't make it to work for whatever reason they conjure up.
on average, if you stick me in an office in Poland with 50 people for a year's worth of working, i'll be scratching my head week to week wondering why people can't seem to put in a full 5 day work week.
i could never be any sort of manager of people in Poland, I'd end up hurting a lot of people's feelings.
+1 Delph.
FUZZYWICKETS
31 Jul 2013
Life / Polish natural remedies and homeopathey better than English [84]
yeah. that and aspirin.
In saying that, ice would have worked better.
yeah. that and aspirin.
FUZZYWICKETS
30 Jul 2013
Life / Polish natural remedies and homeopathey better than English [84]
it is "dying out" because modern medicine wasn't an option years ago, they did with what they had. they also died of basic infections all the time because they didn't have......modern medicine.
for small things like colds and such, sure, do your homeopathy thing, but we all know everyone gets over colds and the flu regardless of what they take or don't take and there's no saying whether your whiskey and honey cocktail helped your child get over a cold in 13 days instead of 14.
agreed that things like antibiotics are delved out waaaay too frequently, poland being a huge culprit of this. if it's a virus, you're wasting your time. BUT, if you got something like strep, you better go the prescription route instead of vodka and pepper, otherwise you're simply prolonging someone's suffering.
My wife has become quite the expert with her various natural remedies, all thanks to the resources she finds online in Polish. Long may it last.
it is "dying out" because modern medicine wasn't an option years ago, they did with what they had. they also died of basic infections all the time because they didn't have......modern medicine.
for small things like colds and such, sure, do your homeopathy thing, but we all know everyone gets over colds and the flu regardless of what they take or don't take and there's no saying whether your whiskey and honey cocktail helped your child get over a cold in 13 days instead of 14.
agreed that things like antibiotics are delved out waaaay too frequently, poland being a huge culprit of this. if it's a virus, you're wasting your time. BUT, if you got something like strep, you better go the prescription route instead of vodka and pepper, otherwise you're simply prolonging someone's suffering.
FUZZYWICKETS
24 Jul 2013
Love / I love a Polish girl, but I don't want her to drink [37]
what they're trying to say is, if your religion prohibits it, and hers does not (obviously, priests drink wine at mass. hell, Jesus turned water into wine and all that according to the bible) then why is it HER that needs to adjust?
And here you have to not drinking.
If you do not want to be convinced this is your business, but I did not get involved in the subject of religion
If you do not want to be convinced this is your business, but I did not get involved in the subject of religion
what they're trying to say is, if your religion prohibits it, and hers does not (obviously, priests drink wine at mass. hell, Jesus turned water into wine and all that according to the bible) then why is it HER that needs to adjust?
FUZZYWICKETS
24 Jul 2013
Language / Is Polish amongst the best-sounding languages in the world? [123]
absolutely. i CONSTANTLY hear from Poles, of all ages, that czech is really funny to listen to. most of them say it sounds like polish baby talk, like little kids speaking polish.
It doesn't sound "silly", but it does sound amusing to most of us.
absolutely. i CONSTANTLY hear from Poles, of all ages, that czech is really funny to listen to. most of them say it sounds like polish baby talk, like little kids speaking polish.
FUZZYWICKETS
20 Jul 2013
Work / Cost of Living, Average Salaries and Job sites in Poland [263]
better yet, flat out tell them what you earn in the UK, including any yearly bonuses and any benefits you might have like a company car, paid medical, etc. that way, whatever they were thinking of offering you will seem like a pittance. let them embarrass themselves by offering first. it puts the ball in your court because you can make your initial reaction...not counter offer, just your initial reaction convey to them, "wow, that's all you guys pay people in Poland?"
targeting business peoples' egos is a great way to negotiate.
Ask for 50% of what you are earning in UK
better yet, flat out tell them what you earn in the UK, including any yearly bonuses and any benefits you might have like a company car, paid medical, etc. that way, whatever they were thinking of offering you will seem like a pittance. let them embarrass themselves by offering first. it puts the ball in your court because you can make your initial reaction...not counter offer, just your initial reaction convey to them, "wow, that's all you guys pay people in Poland?"
targeting business peoples' egos is a great way to negotiate.
FUZZYWICKETS
19 Jul 2013
Life / A Polka station in Poland? [27]
omfg. i couldn't even get through it. 30 seconds and my face was red with embarrassment.
holy mackerel.
haha, the worst part is the guy can't even dance! i mean he's completely off beat when he moves his body. and the glasses! OOOOHHH those glasses! and the duck faces! OOOOHHH the duck faces!
You certainly couldn't go out without hearing this last year!
omfg. i couldn't even get through it. 30 seconds and my face was red with embarrassment.
holy mackerel.
haha, the worst part is the guy can't even dance! i mean he's completely off beat when he moves his body. and the glasses! OOOOHHH those glasses! and the duck faces! OOOOHHH the duck faces!
FUZZYWICKETS
19 Jul 2013
Life / A Polka station in Poland? [27]
well, it most certainly is distinct from American rap. to sie rozumie samo przez sie.
They've made their own interpretation of it that is distinct from American rap. It's not a copy (although undoubtably it originally was) - but something distinct to Poland.
well, it most certainly is distinct from American rap. to sie rozumie samo przez sie.
FUZZYWICKETS
19 Jul 2013
Travel / Just visited Poland - here is my random rant [154]
you've never been there which means your judgement on this topic is no better than the next guy that reads the internet. additionally, I'm not discussing "better or worse", just how different it is. so uhhmmmm.....yeah, it's different. like night and day.
Agreed. But I was talking about the "radar boxes".
"seems" huh? what are you basing that on, again? Why don't you just take my word for it. Because i know what i'm talking about.
I'm still waiting for you to make a point here. So far it's like you're typing for the sake of typing.
I traveled plenty from 2007 to 2011, in Europe, and you already know my experience.
ha! holy random information, Batman!
we do? PLEASE go ahead and let us all know.
haha! you are truly like stand up comedy. you keep typing that garbage and you have absolutely no evidence of any of it.
Piece of advice: you need to be more careful typing to people that know vs. what you're going off of, which is speculation, internet jockeying, and your own bias. You're a perfect example of that poster that wants things to be true so you type as if it is true.
The worst part is that you always insist on coming at me with personal attacks which ruins the discussion. Just stick to the topic, Delph! A rebuttal using just personal attacks is not a rebuttal. ,
You were just a young pup when you first came on this forum, telling people how much you know about the world, and apparently nothing's changed (don't worry, I won't bring up the failed website you set up after being just a few months in Poland, designed to give newcomers to Poland advice on......Poland......from a guy that didn't even speak.....Polish....who had just graduated from college, with zero work experience....the website was called lindenia.....imagine a 23 year old kid fresh out of college about to tell foreigners everything about a country he had just landed in....and charge them money for it.) oh damn, did I just type that? oops.
It doesn't have to come to this Delph if you'd just stick to the topic and stop slinging mud for no reason.
It's different, yes. Neither better or worse, just different.
you've never been there which means your judgement on this topic is no better than the next guy that reads the internet. additionally, I'm not discussing "better or worse", just how different it is. so uhhmmmm.....yeah, it's different. like night and day.
I've rarely seen police hiding just inside city limits
Agreed. But I was talking about the "radar boxes".
unlike in America which seems to be commonplace.
"seems" huh? what are you basing that on, again? Why don't you just take my word for it. Because i know what i'm talking about.
I'm still waiting for you to make a point here. So far it's like you're typing for the sake of typing.
It prevents cheap alcohol being sold to internal EU travellers and also allows the airport to collect anonymised data on the shopping habits of travellers.
I traveled plenty from 2007 to 2011, in Europe, and you already know my experience.
People might talk about Polish bureaucracy on PolishForums - but I imagine it's the same story everywhere.
ha! holy random information, Batman!
We all know how this one is easily dodged.
we do? PLEASE go ahead and let us all know.
You're right - living in a modern European city with everything that you need at your feet as opposed to living in the desert far away from any entertainment or otherwise...night and day indeed.
haha! you are truly like stand up comedy. you keep typing that garbage and you have absolutely no evidence of any of it.
Piece of advice: you need to be more careful typing to people that know vs. what you're going off of, which is speculation, internet jockeying, and your own bias. You're a perfect example of that poster that wants things to be true so you type as if it is true.
The worst part is that you always insist on coming at me with personal attacks which ruins the discussion. Just stick to the topic, Delph! A rebuttal using just personal attacks is not a rebuttal. ,
You were just a young pup when you first came on this forum, telling people how much you know about the world, and apparently nothing's changed (don't worry, I won't bring up the failed website you set up after being just a few months in Poland, designed to give newcomers to Poland advice on......Poland......from a guy that didn't even speak.....Polish....who had just graduated from college, with zero work experience....the website was called lindenia.....imagine a 23 year old kid fresh out of college about to tell foreigners everything about a country he had just landed in....and charge them money for it.) oh damn, did I just type that? oops.
It doesn't have to come to this Delph if you'd just stick to the topic and stop slinging mud for no reason.
FUZZYWICKETS
19 Jul 2013
Life / A Polka station in Poland? [27]
curious.....rap is American....and 99.9999% black. how have Poles made rap their own?
curious.....rap is American....and 99.9999% black. how have Poles made rap their own?
FUZZYWICKETS
18 Jul 2013
Travel / Just visited Poland - here is my random rant [154]
i must have struck a nerve. in any case, yeah, where i'm from.....yep, night and day.
bull$hit.
it's been about 2 1/2 years. i'll be in the EU next month, I'll let you know if anything's changed.
That is most certainly night to Poland's day.
i must have struck a nerve. in any case, yeah, where i'm from.....yep, night and day.
Actually it does have quite an effect, which is why it's law in so many places.
bull$hit.
Looks like you either don't fly in the EU or don't buy things when you do fly (although they aren't asking for your ticket, they are asking for your boarding pass).
it's been about 2 1/2 years. i'll be in the EU next month, I'll let you know if anything's changed.
FUZZYWICKETS
18 Jul 2013
Travel / Just visited Poland - here is my random rant [154]
I'm not advocating anyone's opinion on this nutty forum, but I'll throw in a few things about that last post. I left out parts of quotes to keep this post under novel size and just quoted seriously?'s responses. My apologies if it's misleading for others:
i would love to know which one YOU come from, because the western country I come from is night and day compared to Poland.
uhmm.....where I'm from? police manually run laser on the roads sporadically (mostly on highways) but radar fixed on metal poles in different locations in a town.....no.
it does nothing for the environment because, as you said, it's a "tiny amount", meaning it doesn't deter anyone from paying it. a bill of 105.40 or 105.50 has no impact on the environment.
i can honestly say I've never been asked, ever, for my plane ticket when buying anything at an airport. nope.
Polish bureaucracy is notorious. any number of people on this forum can attest to that.
i have. they offer comprehensive medical insurance to all their full time employees.
i'm becoming quite suspect myself after reading this one. suspect of you.
anyone that thinks Poland has anything but lousy weather hasn't lived anywhere else.....excluding maybe countries with colder, rainier, sloppier, snowier weather.
you've had to pay for toilet paper?
I'm not advocating anyone's opinion on this nutty forum, but I'll throw in a few things about that last post. I left out parts of quotes to keep this post under novel size and just quoted seriously?'s responses. My apologies if it's misleading for others:
wow, i would LOVE to know which "Western" country you come from.
i would love to know which one YOU come from, because the western country I come from is night and day compared to Poland.
WHERE ARE THERE NOT RADARS ON ROADS? DO YOU DRIVE REGULARLY?
uhmm.....where I'm from? police manually run laser on the roads sporadically (mostly on highways) but radar fixed on metal poles in different locations in a town.....no.
I THINK THIS IS A FABULOUS IDEA, BOTH FOR THE ENVIRONMENT
it does nothing for the environment because, as you said, it's a "tiny amount", meaning it doesn't deter anyone from paying it. a bill of 105.40 or 105.50 has no impact on the environment.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU FLEW INTO ANY AIRPORT? THIS IS STANDARD PROCEDURE THESE DAYS.
i can honestly say I've never been asked, ever, for my plane ticket when buying anything at an airport. nope.
HMMM... NOW I'M REALLY CURIOUS AS TO YOUR TRUE "WESTERN" HOME COUNTRY. WHERE IS THERE NOT BEAUROCRACY?
Polish bureaucracy is notorious. any number of people on this forum can attest to that.
EVER HEARD OF WAL-MART
i have. they offer comprehensive medical insurance to all their full time employees.
18. Polish weather.
NOW IM THINKING THIS POST IS A JOKE. CLIMATE CHANGE?
NOW IM THINKING THIS POST IS A JOKE. CLIMATE CHANGE?
i'm becoming quite suspect myself after reading this one. suspect of you.
anyone that thinks Poland has anything but lousy weather hasn't lived anywhere else.....excluding maybe countries with colder, rainier, sloppier, snowier weather.
i understand that extra toilet paper must be an absolute requirement for you.
you've had to pay for toilet paper?
FUZZYWICKETS
10 Jul 2013
USA, Canada / General differences between Poland and the USA? [184]
Ok. Which American micro brews are being offered? I'm all ears.
'The good stuff cannot be found in Poland'... are you kidding? There's a micro-brewery thing going on here that would have you begging and weeping for more.
Ok. Which American micro brews are being offered? I'm all ears.
FUZZYWICKETS
10 Jul 2013
USA, Canada / General differences between Poland and the USA? [184]
that's because you've only had the mass produced bull$hit American beers, the good stuff simply cannot be found in Poland.
that's because you've only had the mass produced bull$hit American beers, the good stuff simply cannot be found in Poland.
FUZZYWICKETS
2 Jul 2013
Travel / Just visited Poland - here is my random rant [154]
if it was for ecological reasons, it would cost considerably more to discourage people from buying them. for the guy that just spent 178.20 on groceries, increasing his bill to 178.30 because he needs 2 bags to fit all his stuff he couldn't possibly carry in his bare hands.....hardly a deterrent.
charging for "lemon to tea" is for the environment too?
Officially, for ecological reasons (which is probably still partly true), and unofficially, you know.
if it was for ecological reasons, it would cost considerably more to discourage people from buying them. for the guy that just spent 178.20 on groceries, increasing his bill to 178.30 because he needs 2 bags to fit all his stuff he couldn't possibly carry in his bare hands.....hardly a deterrent.
charging for "lemon to tea" is for the environment too?
FUZZYWICKETS
28 Jun 2013
Law / Getting married in Poland (documentation, church) [42]
not following. you didn't address the conversation, or my statement, whatsoever.
once again, i don't know where you're going with this.
yeah....the truth stings a little sometimes.
.......and to remember that ultimately the Catholic way is the better way.
Do pay attention bethanyxx, for it is YOU that needs to explain all this to your children, and your family.
FUZZYWICKETS, following the posting guidelines, your comments are Anti- Catholic religious freedom is guaranteed by the Constitution in your country.
not following. you didn't address the conversation, or my statement, whatsoever.
There is a strict division between tradition and lies.
once again, i don't know where you're going with this.
You are a nasty little person FUZZYWICKETS.
yeah....the truth stings a little sometimes.
For a mixed-marriage between a Catholic and a non-Catholic to work well it is important that the couple embraces what is common between their respective faith traditions and "to learn from each other the way in which each lives in fidelity to Christ......"
.......and to remember that ultimately the Catholic way is the better way.
Do pay attention bethanyxx, for it is YOU that needs to explain all this to your children, and your family.
FUZZYWICKETS
27 Jun 2013
Law / Getting married in Poland (documentation, church) [42]
take a big ole' step off your high horse, bucko. so you were a virgin when you got married? did you sleep in the same bed as your fiance before you got married? how do you feel about homosexuals? what about having sex for pleasure, whenever you want? what about contraception? ever been divorced? I could go on and on, I actually remember my pre-cana in Poland. it was done in mass lecture, the church was standing room only filled with couples about to get married....and half of them were falling asleep. you know, a "foundation for failure" and all that.
for the same reason most others do it. because one of their spouses can't imagine breaking the tradition, or an even stronger influence, because they know their mother would be heartbroken if she didn't see her little girl walk down the aisle. tradition trumps the rest and if just one wants it and the other doesn't, the "other" one chalks it up as, "oh hell, it's just 45 minutes, he/she's happy, then we can leave and start the real party." don't try and make it out to be more than it is.
and hokus pokus alamagokus.
I mean, no offense dude, if you're into all that, rock on buddy, but you're romanticizing about something very few actually pay attention to.
ain't that nice? ain't it nice to know that you're "on the wrong side"? as a matter of fact, that would most likely include your entire family. it'll make you feel good walkin' down that aisle, especially because you'll finally be "on the right side".........right? look no further to see how amazingly condescending religion can be.
so bethanyxx, how do you feel about eliminating your own faith from your life, as well as your children's lives?
or do you plan on crossing your fingers behind your back.
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If as you say there are spouses who cross their fingers behind their back, what a way to start married life based on lies, now there is a foundation for failure.
take a big ole' step off your high horse, bucko. so you were a virgin when you got married? did you sleep in the same bed as your fiance before you got married? how do you feel about homosexuals? what about having sex for pleasure, whenever you want? what about contraception? ever been divorced? I could go on and on, I actually remember my pre-cana in Poland. it was done in mass lecture, the church was standing room only filled with couples about to get married....and half of them were falling asleep. you know, a "foundation for failure" and all that.
why would you want to put yourself through the paperwork needed for the Church
for the same reason most others do it. because one of their spouses can't imagine breaking the tradition, or an even stronger influence, because they know their mother would be heartbroken if she didn't see her little girl walk down the aisle. tradition trumps the rest and if just one wants it and the other doesn't, the "other" one chalks it up as, "oh hell, it's just 45 minutes, he/she's happy, then we can leave and start the real party." don't try and make it out to be more than it is.
The effect of the sacrament is an increase in sanctifying grace for the spouses, a participation in the divine life of God himself.
and hokus pokus alamagokus.
I mean, no offense dude, if you're into all that, rock on buddy, but you're romanticizing about something very few actually pay attention to.
my boyfriend did however read hed have to promise the priest he will never turn to the "wrong side" and join another religion and that all the children we have we bring up in the catholic faith..
ain't that nice? ain't it nice to know that you're "on the wrong side"? as a matter of fact, that would most likely include your entire family. it'll make you feel good walkin' down that aisle, especially because you'll finally be "on the right side".........right? look no further to see how amazingly condescending religion can be.
so bethanyxx, how do you feel about eliminating your own faith from your life, as well as your children's lives?
or do you plan on crossing your fingers behind your back.
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