Love / Polish Girls vs Russian Girls [813]

Actually it's less easy to pull in the clubs than in the daytime (cafes, shops etc). They can become very deluded in clubs because of over-attention from needy desperate guys and due to low standards almost anyone can be competition. Depends on club though. 9-10 years ago it was a completely different story.

Law / Coffee Heaven (Poland's biggest coffee chain) for sale [33]

Mar 10, 10, 21:02 - Thread attached on merging:
coffee heaven - rip off or am I missing the point?

Coffee Heaven - the biggest rip-off in Poland. Everyone agree or am I missing the point?

But I must say congrats to the marketing team. You have done an excellent job of selling an overpriced product to a thrifty market.

Love / Italian girl has a question about a Polish man [21]


So you must be hand model then? hmm..maybe a foot model. I'll go with the foot.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


Wrong. The OP's opinions were correct. A lot of ex-pats in Poland have similar observations. You even have the word 'pantoflarz' to describe these submissive wuss bags.

Love / I don't know if she's married and I don't speak Polish - help me romantic folks [55]


Hahaha, funny but very true. I used to try to be sophisticated and witty, which got me compliments like "you're funny" etc. But after some time I discovered that the only person I was really impressing was myself, and that it made no difference to my success. The same, or rather better, results could be achieved by keepng the conversation very boring and simple.


Girls, especially village girls, always find it funny that a foreigner knows who Doda, Mandaryna etc. are. Such questions can be good to make them laugh.

Love / I don't know if she's married and I don't speak Polish - help me romantic folks [55]


Who says I want a relationship with them? The point I was making was that if you want to get laid in Poland, you don't need to be particularly witty, sophisticated or charismatic. You just need to keep it simple. As far as a relationship goes, it would be impossible for me to go out long-term with a girl who demands a very low level of stimulation.

Love / I don't know if she's married and I don't speak Polish - help me romantic folks [55]


Many Polish girls (mostly the villagy types) tend to take things too seriously and don't get some types of humour. For example, if you are waiting at a tram stop in Krakow and you say to a girl in a silly joking way "excuse me, does this tram go to Warsaw?", don't be surprised if she replies "No, I'm afraid you have to go to the train station."

However, in the situation you described, I would put the confusion down to lack of knowledge about 'New Age' rather than cross-cultural misunderstanding or different humour.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]

There are more doormats among Polish men than in an IKEA warehouse. There are also bad boy types too, but a lot of Polish girls tend to go with the safer, more boring option when it comes to dating. A friend of mine from Greece was quite shocked to see so many guys being submissively led by the hand in clubs in Krakow.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]

But how many foreign guys do you see cowering behind their Polish girlfriends with a flower in hand? A foreign guy in Poland, especially a mediterranean, would have to be a real p***y to allow that sort of relationship to develop.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


You cannot paint all Polish girls with the same brush. In Krakow, you will find that most girls are very low maintenance - certainly lower maintenance than western girls. Buy them a cup of coffee and an ice-cream and they're satisfied. Dinners you can make at home - it's not hard to learn how to cook, and they like it when you can cook something exotic for them. Of course, there are gold digging sl*ts too but you can spot them a mile away. Also, Warsaw girls tend to expect much more e.g. restaurant dinners, cocktails, etc. But it's nothing like the girls in Ukraine, for example, who make no effort to hide their intentions. Subtelty is definitely not a character trait I'd attribute to Ukrainian girls.

Yeah, Polish girls go for the romance too, but I find that your chances of getting laid more quickly (if that's what you're after) are higher if you don't give everything they want.

The Mediterranean might act more submissively, but he'll never be submissive.

Love / What are the most popular ethnicities for Polish women [90]


This is a 10-year-old story. Have you been in prison or something? Italians have acquired a really bad reputation in Poland now, and in general only the very sl#tty types tend to go for them, which is a shame because many Italians are very nice, peaceful chaps.

Love / What are the most popular ethnicities for Polish women [90]

In the old days, Arabs would pretend to be Italian. Now there is no more need. And some Italians now even pretend to be other nationalities.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


It usually works like that at the beginning. But when a woman becomes emotionally attached to you, the roles can easily reverse, especially if the woman has the financial means. You seem to be referring to gold digging 'sponsoree' types, which admittedly isn't an insignificant group, but doesn't reflect the big picture.

Love / How to seduce Polish girls: Tips and advice [118]


What's all this talk of money?? Guys come to Poland and go for Polish girls precisely because they can find low maintenance attractive girls, unlike in many other societies. Sure, there are gold digging types too, but there are more than enough of the former.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


Ok, fair point. That's true. but as KP says, it depends on the girl's financial means. I've experienced both sorts of dating. However, I disagree with the suggestion to go dutch if your date is a poor student for example. Basically, you have to decide whether she's worth it. However, as I said, if you want you can easily minimize the spending by cooking for her, watching dvds etc. If the girl earns a decent salary, then it's reasonable to split the expenses. Very often, those girls will offer to pay their way and I may say sth like 'I'll get this one, you pay next time'. But when the girl is attached to you, you can get away with all sorts of things.


Hehe..yes, good philosophy.

Love / How to seduce Polish girls: Tips and advice [118]


It depends on how highly you rate the girl, her level of class or type of character. Why would you want to splash out on a simple student girl from a small town, for example? Plus, I think money helps when you also have a little charm - I've seen lots of English tourists in Krakow getting used for drinks. OK, the more $$ you have the less charm you probably need, but you will still need some, unless you are super rich and everyone knows it.

What's charming for Polish girls is another point of discussion. Often, a very simple conversation is enough (Do you like X? Do you like Y? etc.). Foreigners in Poland frequently fail to understand the mentality of the girls and try to be too cocky, too clever, too sexual or whatever.

Love / How to seduce Polish girls: Tips and advice [118]


Actually, I saw a few Turks with half-decent German girlfriends in a club in Berlin a few years ago. I must admit it pissed me off. However, I agree that Polish girls do level the playing field somewhat, meaning that everyone has a chance of getting a hot girl. But you make it sound much easier that it is. I've never been to the Greek resorts where Polish girls are, so I don't know what it's like there. But in Poland, the Polish guys tend to get the hottest (and also the least attractive) girls, probably because very hot women demand more more security (and usually speak worse English). Foreigners do get attractive girls, but not the most attractive.

Love / Polish girls vs Ukrainian girls: Who do you think is hotter? [152]

I don't know who is hotter Ukrainian or Polish. Certainly, on first impressions, it seems that Ukrainians are, but that could be deception because Ukrainians dress a hundred times sluttier than Polish girls, especially in spring and summer, exposing more of their bodies (I once met a girl in a Ukrainian club who was wearing a bra as a top!)

Also, it has been commented before on Polish girls' dodgy taste in men, but this is nothing compared to Ukrainian girls. I remember seeing some pretty girls in one nightclub in Lviv going for these really unfashionable, cheesy-looking horny young Turkish guys who wouldn't have a chance even in Poland.

Love / How to seduce Polish girls: Tips and advice [118]


When you live in Poland your standards become higher. That doesn't mean that you always go for the most attractive girls, it just means that what you become more picky in your jusgement of what is very hot. Sure, foreigners do get good looking girls like I said, but just not the best. I guarantee you will not find it easy.


Yes, obviously a girl can have many qualities apart from looks. My comments were only made to dispel a myth - that foreigners get the hottest girls.

Love / Polish girls vs Ukrainian girls: Who do you think is hotter? [152]


I agree with that up to a point. But what I didn't like about Ukrainian girls was their transactional mentality ('you do this for me, I do that' etc.) Polish girls are more interested in you as person - your upbringing, your likes/dislikes, hobbies etc., not just how many hot dogs you can buy them. I don't mean to judge all Ukrainian girls - I'm just comparing the girls you meet in clubs.

Love / Polish girls vs Ukrainian girls: Who do you think is hotter? [152]

This is strange. Perhaps you play a different game to me or you go for a certain type of Polish girl. Or maybe it works differently in Greece. In my experience, it tends to be girls in Warsaw who are more financially demanding. In Krakow, a girl may even end up providing the hot dogs for you if she likes you that much and has the financial means. However, it is interesting that the Polish girls on this forum don't seem to be objecting much to your claims.

It's also my experience that girls in Ukrainian clubs make it very obvious what they expect from you - a place to stay, hot dog, drinks, whatever. They have no problem demanding it in straight forward terms, the same way many girls in Poland would 10 years ago. As I wrote, I really didn't like this primitive, transactional mentality. Occassionally, though, you meet a more decent girl who offers to pay her way or refuses a drink so that you don't think she's a "typical Ukrainian".

Love / What do foreign women think of Polish men? [120]


LOL The problem is that I don't see sexy-looking girls exactly throwing themselves at the superior Polish guys or better guys in general (not just talking about looks here, but rather overall charm, style, manners etc.) The question is do they realise they can do better, do they feel they don't deserve better or are they even capable of recognising 'better'? They must be able to see the difference, otherwise American films would flop in Poland since Polish girls wouldn't get the appeal of the cool movie stars.

I think many of these girls must be lacking in self-esteem in a way that is not easy for a man to understand. For us guys, it's simple: "she's hot, she can do better, wtf". Last night I was out in a club in Krakow, and I was amazed yet again at the girls' crappy taste in men.

As a general point, perhaps women have less faith in their looks than men think they do. For a woman, a guy might be very handsome but if he is too weak, too insecure, too horny or too boring, she can be turned off immediately. For most men, if a girl is very attractive, she'd have to have a pretty extreme deficiency to put him off...at least at the beginning. Maybe attractive women feel to some extent that men are selecting them according to similar criteria and therefore believe they can't have a more desirable man (e.g. "what would this guy want with a poor village girl like me?" instead of "I'm hot...I'm going to find a cool guy")

Love / What do foreign women think of Polish men? [120]


I made it clear that I wasn't just talking about appearance but also charm, manners, style, etc. Yes, that criteria makes sense in theory, but it doesn't explain why they go for guys who do not have money, and also do not seem to have too much else going for them.


This is an interesting explanation. But it may even go further than just appearance. It might explain why they go for certain nationalities that do not appeal to other (western) girls. Or why they go for boring, serious guys, who cannot pick up many girls. It's clearly a self-esteem issue. As you said before, this is different to Greek girls, for example, who would rather be single than settle for some 'malakas'..hehe.

Love / ARE POLISH GIRLS GOLD-DIGGERS? [359]

All women desire financial security especially in poorer countries. But I think that the money issue is exagerrated when it comes to Polish girls. Certainly 10 years ago part of their fascination with foreign guys was money (or rather the perception of money). But times have changed. I've met some of the cheapest, most tight-fisted guys you can imagine in Krakow. And they're happy here because they can date attractive, low maintenance girls. Of course there are hardcore gold diggers too, but it's not as bad as in some other countries I can think of.

Love / ARE POLISH GIRLS GOLD-DIGGERS? [359]


I cannot refute this opinion because when I am outside Poland I don't tend to seek out Polish girls, so I don't see what they are going for. I can only speak for Poland. But if they are inherent gold diggers as you say they are, it seems they are pretty bad at it if they are going for all these ethnic minorities, who tend to be poorer than their wealthier indigeneous counterparts.

In Poland, society is better off than it was 10 years ago, and as a result the gold digging is less blatant than it used to be. Just compare Poland to Ukraine, a much more backward country. When you meet the average girl in a Ukrainian club, you don't need to squint to see the dollar signs in her eyes. With the average Polish girl, unless you go out to specific clubs, you don't always feel you are a walking, talking wallet. To me, it's logical that the degree of 'gold digging' is relative to the backwardness of the country, the attractiveness of the girls and the presence of wealthier males.

Love / What do foreign women think of Polish men? [120]


I meant guys who aren't appealing to many women. The point was whether attractive Polish girls select guys based on their 'bad' features because they know those guys will be faithful. In other words, 'bad' becomes 'good'.

Love / ARE POLISH GIRLS GOLD-DIGGERS? [359]

More in some countries, less in others, depending on cultural and economic factors. The question is whether all attractive women are inherently gold diggers. If you strip them of whatever financial well-being they already have, would they all put money at the top of their list of criteria for selecting men?

Love / What do foreign women think of Polish men? [120]

I do just fine, especially when I act like a wuss. :) It would help if you responded to the points raised with your own observations.

Love / What do foreign women think of Polish men? [120]


Yes, exactly. And those traits are not attractive to western women.

Love / ARE POLISH GIRLS GOLD-DIGGERS? [359]


Sadly, I think there is some truth to this. For many westerners, having an attractive Polish gfr is an ego boost and they refuse to look at the big picture fearing that their bolstered ego will come crashing down. They would never entertain such a notion. Though I find a lot of your generalisations a bit over the top, there seems to be some truth in many of them. I must admit that I get turned off a bit when a Polish girl tells me she's had foreign boyfriends before me from some particular countries.