Life / Has feminism and lesbianism progressed in Poland? [645]

If you ask them, many Polish girls will admit to having French kissed other girls. Quite a few claim to be open to the idea of a menage-a-trois. There are certain clubs where it's quite easy to provoke girls into kissing each other.

Love / Polish girls vs Ukrainian girls: Who do you think is hotter? [152]

This is strange. Perhaps you play a different game to me or you go for a certain type of Polish girl. Or maybe it works differently in Greece. In my experience, it tends to be girls in Warsaw who are more financially demanding. In Krakow, a girl may even end up providing the hot dogs for you if she likes you that much and has the financial means. However, it is interesting that the Polish girls on this forum don't seem to be objecting much to your claims.

It's also my experience that girls in Ukrainian clubs make it very obvious what they expect from you - a place to stay, hot dog, drinks, whatever. They have no problem demanding it in straight forward terms, the same way many girls in Poland would 10 years ago. As I wrote, I really didn't like this primitive, transactional mentality. Occassionally, though, you meet a more decent girl who offers to pay her way or refuses a drink so that you don't think she's a "typical Ukrainian".

Love / Polish girls vs Ukrainian girls: Who do you think is hotter? [152]


I agree with that up to a point. But what I didn't like about Ukrainian girls was their transactional mentality ('you do this for me, I do that' etc.) Polish girls are more interested in you as person - your upbringing, your likes/dislikes, hobbies etc., not just how many hot dogs you can buy them. I don't mean to judge all Ukrainian girls - I'm just comparing the girls you meet in clubs.

Love / Polish girls vs Ukrainian girls: Who do you think is hotter? [152]

I don't know who is hotter Ukrainian or Polish. Certainly, on first impressions, it seems that Ukrainians are, but that could be deception because Ukrainians dress a hundred times sluttier than Polish girls, especially in spring and summer, exposing more of their bodies (I once met a girl in a Ukrainian club who was wearing a bra as a top!)

Also, it has been commented before on Polish girls' dodgy taste in men, but this is nothing compared to Ukrainian girls. I remember seeing some pretty girls in one nightclub in Lviv going for these really unfashionable, cheesy-looking horny young Turkish guys who wouldn't have a chance even in Poland.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


Ok, fair point. That's true. but as KP says, it depends on the girl's financial means. I've experienced both sorts of dating. However, I disagree with the suggestion to go dutch if your date is a poor student for example. Basically, you have to decide whether she's worth it. However, as I said, if you want you can easily minimize the spending by cooking for her, watching dvds etc. If the girl earns a decent salary, then it's reasonable to split the expenses. Very often, those girls will offer to pay their way and I may say sth like 'I'll get this one, you pay next time'. But when the girl is attached to you, you can get away with all sorts of things.


Hehe..yes, good philosophy.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


It usually works like that at the beginning. But when a woman becomes emotionally attached to you, the roles can easily reverse, especially if the woman has the financial means. You seem to be referring to gold digging 'sponsoree' types, which admittedly isn't an insignificant group, but doesn't reflect the big picture.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


You cannot paint all Polish girls with the same brush. In Krakow, you will find that most girls are very low maintenance - certainly lower maintenance than western girls. Buy them a cup of coffee and an ice-cream and they're satisfied. Dinners you can make at home - it's not hard to learn how to cook, and they like it when you can cook something exotic for them. Of course, there are gold digging sl*ts too but you can spot them a mile away. Also, Warsaw girls tend to expect much more e.g. restaurant dinners, cocktails, etc. But it's nothing like the girls in Ukraine, for example, who make no effort to hide their intentions. Subtelty is definitely not a character trait I'd attribute to Ukrainian girls.

Yeah, Polish girls go for the romance too, but I find that your chances of getting laid more quickly (if that's what you're after) are higher if you don't give everything they want.

The Mediterranean might act more submissively, but he'll never be submissive.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]

But how many foreign guys do you see cowering behind their Polish girlfriends with a flower in hand? A foreign guy in Poland, especially a mediterranean, would have to be a real p***y to allow that sort of relationship to develop.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]

There are more doormats among Polish men than in an IKEA warehouse. There are also bad boy types too, but a lot of Polish girls tend to go with the safer, more boring option when it comes to dating. A friend of mine from Greece was quite shocked to see so many guys being submissively led by the hand in clubs in Krakow.

Love / Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) [125]


Wrong. The OP's opinions were correct. A lot of ex-pats in Poland have similar observations. You even have the word 'pantoflarz' to describe these submissive wuss bags.

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


This is silly. There are top quality models/actresses in every country. For every Polish model photo you can paste here, I could find an Italian/Greek/French/English/Saudi Arabian/Chinese etc. model just as gorgeous or even more so. We are talking about less than 0.1% of women here.

I'd say from my experience that the average Polish girl is certainly prettier than any other European country I've visited (I haven't been to Baltics yet, but I've heard they're prettier over there). On the other hand, I'd say that in Poland there are fewer really stunning girls than in Western countries (I'm talking about the classy model or actress-type glamorous look).